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Post by GP40P-2 on Mar 19, 2013 12:55:35 GMT -8
Athearn made a Facebook announcement:
"Our next all-new locomotive arrived this morning. We'll be unveiling it at Supertrain in Calgary, Alberta, Canada April 20th. We're sure our Canadian fans will like this announcement."
Any speculation about what it is? Being Athearn, that rules out anything MLW or GE. A chopped Geep?
Jim
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Post by calzephyr on Mar 19, 2013 13:33:29 GMT -8
It sounds like they are aiming for this model to be a hit with Canadian fans. Maybe a  ? larry |
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Post by thb401 on Mar 19, 2013 13:39:43 GMT -8
SD40?
GP40? GP40-2L(w)?
It does say "all new". Athearn already has a Genesis GP7, GP9 out.
So I dont think a nose job would make it all new?
Bill
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Post by riogrande on Mar 19, 2013 14:56:10 GMT -8
Thought from the title Athearn was announcing a "super train" and was wondering what that is!
Canadian stuff isn't generally of interest to me other than the typical mix of freight cars we see on freight trains here south of the boarder. I could be tempted by a the GP40-2L(s) wide cabs D&RGW borrowed for PTC testing - Atlas already offered a model similar but not the same as this diesel.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 19, 2013 14:59:52 GMT -8
Extrapolating from GP38-2, GP50, I get GP40-2:  Not totally exciting, but definitely useful. Ed |
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Post by atsfan on Mar 19, 2013 15:04:05 GMT -8
It is a Genesis SD40-2.
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Post by tdspeedracer on Mar 19, 2013 15:42:13 GMT -8
SD50F/SD60F??
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Post by mlehman on Mar 19, 2013 15:52:21 GMT -8
I like Canadian... Canadian maple syrup - Yum. Canadian looney -- money is good, especially a coin that sums up our feelings Canadian whiskey -- mostly medicinal and cooking in this house, but some insist on drinking it Canadian trains -- they still go to the woods -- and back, thankfully. Ride 'em while you can Canadian planes -- love my HO Beaver, but Caribous, Otters and Siamese Otters...urr,  Twin Otters, too! Canadian hockey -- something about skating and fighting, hard for my to distinguish from American hockey these days, but I'm sure the Canadians feel the same way Canadian Neil Young -- he loves trains, I love his songs, he still hasn't called me about that road manager job....   Canadian trains? Maybe, pocket book is tight, but it'd be good if our Canadian friends had something more to do with during those 10 months of winter. ;D |
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Post by marknycfan on Mar 19, 2013 16:32:06 GMT -8
Why does anyone think Genesis SD-40-2 when Athearn emphasized that Canadians fans would be happy?
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Post by drolsen on Mar 19, 2013 16:45:51 GMT -8
I agree that the SD50F/SD60F would be a great choice for our Canadian friends, but I don't think those would qualify as "all new" since they would be based on the existing Athearn drive. But I hope that's what they're going to announce.
Dave
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Post by Judge Doom on Mar 19, 2013 16:59:58 GMT -8
Extrapolating from GP38-2, GP50, I get GP40-2: Not totally exciting, but definitely useful. Ed Except that those are fake Canadian GP40-2's: American ones in CN colours and still sublettered IC! Imposters! I can't see it being a GP40-2W either because of the Atlas versions. An earlier one (GP40-2LW) would require some frame and chassis mods to sit higher like the prototype, different steps, etc. SD40-2W? The market is still sitting on lots of IMRC ones (which are kinda blah with the exaggerated nose slope and all). A Canadian (CP, BCOL, ONR) SD40-2 on the other hand would have the proper steps, handrails, nose light/cab bell, etc. Same with a Canadian spartan cab GP38-2...which would be more likely! High-nose CP GP9's may also be a good bet since Athearn is really milking their new Genesis GP9 tooling. The CN ones may require a number of tooling-altering differences, so those might be out. I'd like to think they start out with the high-nose ones before going with the chops. |
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Post by carrman on Mar 19, 2013 17:01:04 GMT -8
GP40-2W
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Post by peoriaman on Mar 19, 2013 17:04:45 GMT -8
Except that those are fake Canadian GP40-2's: American ones in CN colours and still sublettered IC! Imposters! They aren't even GP40-2s at all. |
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Post by peoriaman on Mar 19, 2013 17:08:36 GMT -8
Any speculation about what it is? Being Athearn, that rules out anything MLW or GE. How about this:  |
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Post by atsfan on Mar 19, 2013 17:11:59 GMT -8
Why does anyone think Genesis SD-40-2 when Athearn emphasized that Canadians fans would be happy? SD40-2's ran all over Canada. The release will have a Canadian Road Paint Scheme in it. Thus, Canadian Fans will be happy, ay? |
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Post by atsfan on Mar 19, 2013 17:13:42 GMT -8
I like Canadian... Canadian maple syrup - Yum. Canadian looney -- money is good, especially a coin that sums up our feelings Canadian whiskey -- mostly medicinal and cooking in this house, but some insist on drinking it Canadian trains -- they still go to the woods -- and back, thankfully. Ride 'em while you can Canadian planes -- love my HO Beaver, but Caribous, Otters and Siamese Otters...urr, Twin Otters, too! Canadian hockey -- something about skating and fighting, hard for my to distinguish from American hockey these days, but I'm sure the Canadians feel the same way Canadian Neil Young -- he loves trains, I love his songs, he still hasn't called me about that road manager job.... Canadian trains? Maybe, pocket book is tight, but it'd be good if our Canadian friends had something more to do with during those 10 months of winter. ;D EMD Locomotives? Bombardier Planes? C Series flies soon. Silver Maple Leaf Coin. Beer? Not Moosepee. The Whiskey you can keep.................... |
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Post by marknycfan on Mar 19, 2013 18:32:10 GMT -8
Why does anyone think Genesis SD-40-2 when Athearn emphasized that Canadians fans would be happy? SD40-2's ran all over Canada. The release will have a Canadian Road Paint Scheme in it. Thus, Canadian Fans will be happy, ay? Athearn said new 'model', not paint scheme so I'd have to think it's something more specific |
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Post by thb401 on Mar 19, 2013 18:38:51 GMT -8
SD40-2's ran all over Canada. The release will have a Canadian Road Paint Scheme in it. Thus, Canadian Fans will be happy, ay?[/quote]
Athearn said new 'model', not paint scheme so I'd have to think it's something more specific
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He did. He said Genesis SD40-2. Not the RTR pile.
Bill
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Post by mlehman on Mar 19, 2013 18:51:04 GMT -8
I can't believe they're gonna let those models sit in the warehouse for a month. The Athearn auditor is gonna complain about that...  Of course, they could be planning on mailing it there, in which case better start now. |
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Post by tom on Mar 19, 2013 18:57:03 GMT -8
Last time I was out west I sneeked this photo from inside the Athearn development lab. The Supertrain announcement is the Genesis Supertrain!  Comes in sound and DCC-ready versions! |
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Post by Judge Doom on Mar 19, 2013 19:03:27 GMT -8
Last time I was out west I sneeked this photo from inside the Athearn development lab. The Supertrain announcement is the Genesis Supertrain! Comes in sound and DCC-ready versions! But does it come in undecorated? And in what phase?  |
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Post by calzephyr on Mar 19, 2013 19:08:26 GMT -8
Last time I was out west I sneeked this photo from inside the Athearn development lab. The Supertrain announcement is the Genesis Supertrain! Comes in sound and DCC-ready versions! But does it come in undecorated? And in what phase? It is funny, but that is what I thought about when I read SuperTrain. I was thinking train not the location which is mentioned. Is this the one used by the studio for the series?? Larry |
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Post by thb401 on Mar 19, 2013 19:25:55 GMT -8
Is that the new MTH LRC?  |
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Post by mlehman on Mar 19, 2013 21:13:32 GMT -8
Is that the new MTH LRC? Ding! Ding! Ding! I believe we have a winner. 
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Post by GP40P-2 on Mar 19, 2013 21:36:19 GMT -8
Was kind of hoping for one of these , but it looks like MTH already has the rights as they have done it in O. Attachments:
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Post by trebor on Mar 20, 2013 4:45:43 GMT -8
Those are the wrong trucks on the super. I remember a Playboy issue passed around the dorm of the girls of Canada, so I'm going for a new cute "caboose" Wide nose CLC S/G equipped Trainmasters, RS10,18, M420? Any C415's or C855's north of the border? CP American Flyer style passenger cars,,,nah. DCC scale model of Niagra Falls  GMD whatevers? |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 20, 2013 9:12:20 GMT -8
Additional candidates: ES44DC (IF the AC was "all new", then wouldn't this one be, too?)  C44-9W (A new one in Genesis would be great for those few people who model BNSF)  It would likely be a great thing if Athearn re-did their SW7 as a Genesis--we could see all sorts of cool switchers such as:  A Genesis SD40-2 would seem unlikely to me because they've got a whole bunch of the "old" ones in the pipeline--it would seem bad timing to do this one right now. Ed |
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Post by rockfan on Mar 20, 2013 10:10:41 GMT -8
I dont know much about Canada eh, or the RR's there, but I do remember reading how one RR absolutely LOVED the SD40-2, so much so that after EMD moved on and they wanted more SD40-2's EMD said no we dont make them anymore.
Well the RR insisted and got EMD to make em but apparently they were awful locos. Just going from memory, I'm sure the workers and management didnt make quality a priority.
As far as Athearn....a GENESIS SD40-2? That would be great, but since its Canadian my guess is a SD50/60F.
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Post by Judge Doom on Mar 20, 2013 10:31:44 GMT -8
I dont know much about Canada eh, or the RR's there, but I do remember reading how one RR absolutely LOVED the SD40-2, so much so that after EMD moved on and they wanted more SD40-2's EMD said no we dont make them anymore. Well the RR insisted and got EMD to make em but apparently they were awful locos. Just going from memory, I'm sure the workers and management didnt make quality a priority. As far as Athearn....a GENESIS SD40-2? That would be great, but since its Canadian my guess is a SD50/60F. CP. Their last units purchased new were the 25 SD40-2F "Red Barns" in the late 80's, when EMD was making SD60's. Their 645 engines were built by a contractor, and they had to go back to GMD London shortly after being built because they were faulty. Their wide-body draper-taper hoods weren't popular with CP the same way they were on CN, and no further units were ordered. Ironically, a bunch have been retired and set aside for SD30C-ECO conversions. CP then bought a bunch of used SD40-2's from US roads and leasers, and some SD40M-2's from MK, before ordering their first AC4400CW around '95. EDIT: and the Intermountain SD40-2's they want to do in Canadian road schemes are just going to be Americanized units with minimal detail changes (this has been confirmed with IMRC). Ho-hum, might as well buy some Athearn blue-box units... |
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Post by riogrande on Mar 20, 2013 10:32:34 GMT -8
I saw Intermountain has announced a whole slew of SD40-2's - so it looks like another maker is adding to KATO, Athearn and BLI
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Twin Otters, too!
