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Post by tom on Jan 5, 2014 17:10:49 GMT -8
I recently completed after a long delay (because I missed up the masking) my PC/PRR Magor covered hopper:  I started with the Exactrail PRR painted Magor aluminum covered hopper. I then added PC green patches over the PRR reporting marks, keystone, and number. I then added the PC lettering, masked it off, weathered it, and then removed the patches.  The weathering was mainly using an airbrush and thinned down Pollyscale paint (RR Tie Brown and Black). I followed the photo of the real car so the aluminum finish can still be seen.  I also added Microscale lube plates that I also masked prior to weathering so they looked recently applied.  I originaly messed the car up because I used PC green painted blank decal paper as the PC patches. This seemed to work fine so I then used blue masking tape to cover the patches while I weathered the car. All was well until I removed the masking which proceeded to tear off the clean PC patches....... To prevent the stomp factor from happening I put it a way for a year or two until I was ready to start again. This time I used yellow sticky notes for the masking and it worked fine. Lesson learned! |
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Post by tankcarsrule on Jan 5, 2014 17:41:33 GMT -8
Nice work!
Regards, Bobby
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Post by atsfan on Jan 5, 2014 17:46:49 GMT -8
Looks nice.
Would love to see the prototype pix.
Thanls.
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Post by railfan4life on Jan 5, 2014 20:38:50 GMT -8
Great job.
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Post by trebor on Jan 5, 2014 21:03:14 GMT -8
Great subject,great job. I never had success with masking over decals either. I didn't know PRR had natural finish cars.
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Post by Judge Doom on Jan 6, 2014 0:35:39 GMT -8
As they say, that's some fine modeling work there Lou, er Tom.  |
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Post by mrsocal on Jan 6, 2014 5:27:26 GMT -8
Very nice. Brake hoses and cut levers?
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Post by tom on Jan 6, 2014 13:26:51 GMT -8
Thanks everyone!
I do not add brake hoses as that detail seems to go away when the car is in a train......plus it is odd to see a train go by with disconnected airhoses (and I currently do not feel that added cost is worth the magnetic airhoses).
The Exactrail car did come with cut levers.....must have come off sometime after I took the car out of the box and put it in service! Have to admit I did not notice till I saw the photos!
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Post by theengineshed on Jan 6, 2014 17:05:32 GMT -8
Very nice work! Glad you got around to finishing it.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 7, 2014 4:40:58 GMT -8
Would it have been easier to try masking my car, weathering, then adding the decal patches, just to avoid having to mask on top of decals/fresh paint? But either way the final product looks great.
Somewhere I have a picture for someone up for a real challenge. A PRR center flow that apparently never got washed between paint jobs, because the Conrail brown had bled/worn through so that all of the Penn Central lettering and a lot of green paint was visible, that itself had bled/worn through to where a big patch of the original grey paint and entire PRR keystone also was very visible. The kicker being that in all that I believe it never changed road number.
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Post by markfj on Jan 7, 2014 11:16:43 GMT -8
Another great job Tom! The patch outs look very authentic.
I also have to say that ExactRail really did a nice job with the details on this car.
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Post by tom on Jan 7, 2014 13:52:52 GMT -8
Would it have been easier to try masking my car, weathering, then adding the decal patches, just to avoid having to mask on top of decals/fresh paint? But either way the final product looks great. Thanks and yes your way would have been easier since the masking just ripped off the tape. I think now the best way would have been to just weather the then mask off the patch areas, paint and then letter it...just like Penn Central did! |
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Post by nebrzephyr on Jan 8, 2014 8:36:05 GMT -8
I originaly messed the car up because I used PC green painted blank decal paper as the PC patches. This seemed to work fine so I then used blue masking tape to cover the patches while I weathered the car. All was well until I removed the masking which proceeded to tear off the clean PC patches....... To prevent the stomp factor from happening I put it a way for a year or two until I was ready to start again. This time I used yellow sticky notes for the masking and it worked fine. Lesson learned! Tom....been there done that!!! Did the same thing on some BN patch hoppers I did awhile back. So when I re-did them I sprayed the "patches" with a few coats of dullcoat first. That worked. Bob |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 18:18:02 GMT -8
Beautiful !!!
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Post by lajrmdlr on Jan 9, 2014 8:37:07 GMT -8
Tom "I also added Microscale "lube plates" that I also masked prior to weathering so they looked recently applied." Microscale & modelers may call them "lube plates" But the RRs call them "Consolidated Stencils" as they are for both air brake COTS & lube info about the car. The single COTS stencil tarted in 1972 & in 1978 they became two part adding the the lube data. These days they are #, $ & 5 part but they are beyond my modeling era. Here's a link to info on those stencils & other kinds of freight car markings: www.hosam.com/mod/rsdet.html#conBTW ACI plates became inoperable after ten years so they weren't added anymore. All cars nowadays have the AEI boxes. Don't know if anyone makes them but should be easy to make using the right size plastic strips. PS: Agree w/ all the others on your very good job of the painting & decal work! |
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Post by lajrmdlr on Jan 9, 2014 8:45:20 GMT -8
What happened to any PC cars when CSX & NS split up the Conrail cars?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 8:49:34 GMT -8
What happened to any PC cars when CSX & NS split up the Conrail cars? They would have been had their reporting marks changed to either PRR(NS) or NYC(CSX). The PC reporting mark is owned by NS. |
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Post by lajrmdlr on Jan 9, 2014 9:23:36 GMT -8
What happened to any PC cars when CSX & NS split up the Conrail cars? They would have been had their reporting marks changed to either PRR(NS) or NYC(CSX). The PC reporting mark is owned by NS. So any original PC car would have stayed PC? Saw a few NYC & PRR in my last conductor days but haven't seen any lately out railfanning . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 9:49:55 GMT -8
They would have been had their reporting marks changed to either PRR(NS) or NYC(CSX). The PC reporting mark is owned by NS. So any original PC car would have stayed PC? Saw a few NYC & PRR in my last conductor days but haven't seen any lately out railfanning . The PC reporting mark is NS's property so if the asset was owned by NS then there would be no real reason for it to be restenciled unless the number changed, then it would more than likely get PRR reporting marks. If a PC car went to CSX, then it would get NYC reporting marks. I've seen a couple of PC cars still with Penn Central paint but they either had PRR or NYC reporting marks and maybe new numbers painted over the original PC reporting mark and number. |
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