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Post by mountaineer on Mar 30, 2015 19:08:37 GMT -8
That's just fun. Thanks for sharing the comparison shots. After that much work, it's probably worth having a resin cast of the nose and cab, since I know of at least 2 more people on this forum that would want one. You could actually just do to the back of the cab doors, since the balance of the body shells will get lots of customizing by anyone adept enough to work with a resin nose. Thanks for the compliments. I will give your casting idea some thought.
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Post by mountaineer on Mar 30, 2015 19:32:33 GMT -8
You nailed it. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same when I do my E6. Did you reshape the nose by eye, or did you make some kind of contour gauge to help keep thing symmetrical? In case you haven't noticed, the Proto radiators are too narrow. BLI got the size correct for comparison. Thank you very much indeed. Your E Units are quite impressive to say the least! If by radiators you mean the roof top lengthwise corrugated ones, the P2K's seem alright to me. I noticed they're a bit wider on the BLI E6, which is interesting as on the Sunset brass E6 they're the same as the BLI's. But the Challenger imports brass E6 (pictured below with this one and the BLI) has them just about identical to those on the P2K: The prototype radiators appear to be dimensioned as are the ones on the P2K and Challenger Brass radiators, with a large roof top "shoulder" before sharply rolling off onto the sides as seen on Santa Fe #15: This also appears to be the case with the roof top radiators on Illinois Central E6 #4003: Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying and perhaps there were differing roof top arrangements especially after the radiators were removed, the P2K's radiator width seems pretty accurate to me.
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Post by mountaineer on Apr 4, 2015 9:10:43 GMT -8
You nailed it. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same when I do my E6. Did you reshape the nose by eye, or did you make some kind of contour gauge to help keep thing symmetrical? In case you haven't noticed, the Proto radiators are too narrow. BLI got the size correct for comparison. "In case you haven't noticed, ......?" Well, that certainly sounds as though you've given me what I believe to be an unnecessary personal challenge. Would you kindly provide the correct actual dimensions of the prototype roof top radiators overall dimensions? I do not have them on hand. And then, would you please provide the precise measurements found on the BLI model's plastic radiator ribs? I no longer have that on hand as well. To my eye, the P2K's "narrow width" is off by just about that same amount the BLI's are too wide, perhaps even a bit less. Nose contour templates: I made a .040" sheet styrene base-plate template from the Plan View of the nose contour from the EMD E6 Drawings. Then on the model, I filled the stepped inset recess (behind the anti-climber) with .020" strip styrene to match this correct contour. When finished, this same bottom template was then temporarily adhered to the top of the nose with Micro-Scale Liquitape, but now located a bit aft of the headlight maintaining the 20 degree slope of the nose. Then, using stiff cardstock, I followed both the "new" top template and corrected bottom contour as guides to smoothly spread JB Weld from the nose centerline outwards, blending into to the flanks and up to just shy of the "cheek bones" of the nose's "face." When fully cured, above this new filled in area, a further small lengthwise application of JB Weld was blended into the top radius. This was then "knocked down" with sanding sticks to the approximate compound contours, all by eye. This stage was then follwed by Tamiya Orange Cap putty which is an excellent low shrink, solvent based material with an extremely fine aluminum powder filler. Sculpting was done with medium and fine sanding sticks finished with 600 grit wet/dry paper. I used the Highliners window contours against the filled areas by viewing from a below dead center front position, this to assure symmetry. The current issue of (First Quarter 2015) of "The Warbonnet," the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society's magazine has a truly mind boggling number of excellent nose shots of E1's, E3's and E6's. This by a very wide margin, has got to be the single largest number of such images ever published. Any and every question as to windshields, nose contours etc. are clearly presented within this singular magazine.
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Post by gevohogger on Apr 4, 2015 15:03:50 GMT -8
You nailed it. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same when I do my E6. Did you reshape the nose by eye, or did you make some kind of contour gauge to help keep thing symmetrical? In case you haven't noticed, the Proto radiators are too narrow. BLI got the size correct for comparison. "In case you haven't noticed, ......?" Well, that certainly sounds as though you've given me what I believe to be an unnecessary personal challenge. Oh just let it go man! Not everything is meant as an attack.
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Post by mountaineer on Apr 4, 2015 16:00:25 GMT -8
"In case you haven't noticed, ......?" Well, that certainly sounds as though you've given me what I believe to be an unnecessary personal challenge. Oh just let it go man! Not everything is meant as an attack. Of course everyone knows that. But what are those dimensions anyway?
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