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Post by tom on Dec 20, 2014 19:52:36 GMT -8
In addition to my CofG boxcar I took some photos of my Penn Central gondola car that I built with a P2K gondola. What started my interest in this car was that Mt. Vernon Car Shops released some Penn Central decals just for this car. Recently Peter Aue releases some limited release ladders for these cars (the P2K came with grabirons while the PC/NYC cars had ladders). PC rebuilt these old NYC cars with new ends so I built new ones using styrene. Here is a photo of the side. The car was painted a mix of PollyScale Jade Green and PC Green.  This shot shows the rebuilt ends on the car:  Here is the shot of the brakewheel end of the car:  Finally one more shot:  While lots of RTR cars are out there it was fun to combine an old P2K car that I had sitting around unbuilt for a long time combined with some recently released items to come up with a car I wanted to build for a long time. Decades ago I built one of these from the long gone National Car Cast sides. |
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Post by grabbem88 on Dec 20, 2014 20:24:07 GMT -8
This is what I like somebody building something and showing it off...
So what it's not a $45.00 car...it's "your" $45.00 car lol!
I would add some cut levers and call it a day though for some reason that small detail makes the car
Great job btw!!
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Post by 12bridge on Dec 20, 2014 21:13:19 GMT -8
Where might one be able to pick up these ladders?
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Post by WP 257 on Dec 20, 2014 21:32:46 GMT -8
Great work!
I've read that many a scrap yard crane operator thought that adding the gondola drop ends to his scrap pile was just all in a day's work! So it's no surprise that NYC had to rebuild ends--it is likely that many were totally missing.
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Post by tom on Dec 21, 2014 5:22:39 GMT -8
This is what I like somebody building something and showing it off... So what it's not a $45.00 car...it's "your" $45.00 car lol! I would add some cut levers and call it a day though for some reason that small detail makes the car Great job btw!! Except that it is not $45.00! I probably paid $6.99 for the gondola when I picked it up years ago and it sat it the attic for years! |
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Post by buffalobill on Dec 21, 2014 5:29:01 GMT -8
Very nice. Only issue its not beat up enough for a scrap service car.
Bill
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Post by tom on Dec 21, 2014 7:55:12 GMT -8
Very nice. Only issue its not beat up enough for a scrap service car. Bill Thanks! I agree that it is not bat enough...but the sides on the P2K gondola is kind of thick so on my first try on modeling this car I tried heating up the sides so I could add the bulges and ended up ruining it....so no bulges on my second try. Has anyone been successful on adding bulged out sides on a P2K gondola? |
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Post by grabbem88 on Dec 21, 2014 8:15:27 GMT -8
That's what I was getting at with your car.. You might have only paid 5 bucks for it but turned it into something more..
What are you trying to heat the sides up with??
If you wedged a bolt or something inbetween the walls and kept adding heat iron tip maybe I wonder if it would push out enough..
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Dec 21, 2014 8:26:31 GMT -8
When I lived in South Holland, Illinois the Penn Central Panhandle route ran through next door Calumet City and Lansing. At the time the Panhandle was a double track line and the PC used it as a main line. The line also hosted the hot metal bottle car trains. There was a small yard on the line which started at 159th Street (U.S. 6). After the formation of Conrail the line was downgraded and saw much few trains. CR parked a bunch of old PC cars, including a bunch of old scrap gons in the yard. I assume CR was waiting for trusts to mature so the cars could be scrapped. Those gondolas were so beat. The sides were so pushed out, sliced and dented. The frame of the car looked bowed. You could make out some of the green paint and white paint of the reporting marks and logo, but the car was 80% rust. The top cord was all beat up. The cars also had stuff that had fused itself to the bottom of the gondola. You could not see the floor of the car from the crude stuck to the bottom. I miss the Penn Central.....  |
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Post by fiend540 on Dec 21, 2014 10:48:24 GMT -8
That's really nice and something I would like to make as well, you wouldn't have any in progress pics of the end would you?
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Post by tom on Dec 23, 2014 4:53:38 GMT -8
That's really nice and something I would like to make as well, you wouldn't have any in progress pics of the end would you? No sorry I did not take any in-progress shots. I did remember that the NYC/PC prototype had a steel floor while the P2K car came with a wood floor. Instead of adding the P2K floor I substituted a plain piece of styrene. I did not add any details since the floor will eventually be filled with residual debris. |
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Post by fiend540 on Dec 23, 2014 15:25:59 GMT -8
That's really nice and something I would like to make as well, you wouldn't have any in progress pics of the end would you? No sorry I did not take any in-progress shots. I did remember that the NYC/PC prototype had a steel floor while the P2K car came with a wood floor. Instead of adding the P2K floor I substituted a plain piece of styrene. I did not add any details since the floor will eventually be filled with residual debris. Cool, I'll have to start looking at some pictures and give it a go. You wouldn't have contact info for the Ladder maker, hoping maybe he has some still available. |
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Post by tom on Dec 24, 2014 5:45:16 GMT -8
No sorry I did not take any in-progress shots. I did remember that the NYC/PC prototype had a steel floor while the P2K car came with a wood floor. Instead of adding the P2K floor I substituted a plain piece of styrene. I did not add any details since the floor will eventually be filled with residual debris. Cool, I'll have to start looking at some pictures and give it a go. You wouldn't have contact info for the Ladder maker, hoping maybe he has some still available. You can try: Peter Aue. (peteraue@yahoo.de) or (peter.aue@t-online.d) |
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Post by atsfan on Dec 24, 2014 5:58:25 GMT -8
Amazing someone In Germany is making small detail parts for this car.
Nice job.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 7:44:49 GMT -8
Tom,
Which ladder is he making?
Brian
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Post by tom on Dec 24, 2014 11:55:11 GMT -8
Tom, Which ladder is he making? Brian The ones shown on the gondola! The P2K gondola came with grabirons like many of the prototype but the NYC/PC cars had ladders. The etched metal ladders have mounting pegs spaced to match the holes in the gondolas. These ladders are somewhat hard to assemble as rungs are separate from the sides and have to be installed. I did not like the flat rungs so I used 0.012 wire instead. One other thing is that the original NYC cars had drop ends the ends did not have ladders so the etched metal ones are only for the sides. Since my car rebuilt by PC w/o drop ends ladders were installed. For these I used cut down Detail Associates ladders. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 6:29:17 GMT -8
Thanks Tom for answering.
I understand now it is the sides that got the new ladders and the ends you used cast plastic ladders cut down. Very nice looking car. Really like it.
Brian
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