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Post by curtmc on Jul 14, 2012 4:41:34 GMT -8
Now on Atlas web site...
New HO Master Line Passenger Car! A heavyweight passenger coach, in two versions based on NYC single window and C&O paired window...
More paint schemes in U30B (BN, Chessie, Frisco, Milw, N&W, NdeM)
More paint schemes and numbers on Trainman 50'6" boxcar (LRS, ONT, TASD, RBOX, CN, KCS, MP)
And a new line of HO and N street lights...
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Post by drolsen on Jul 14, 2012 6:07:01 GMT -8
Ouch, $25 or $26 for one street light - that would be painful to try to light up a whole town. I'll probably have to stick with daylight-only operations...
Nice to see the Branchline passenger cars living on.
Dave
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Post by Paul Cutler III on Jul 14, 2012 6:30:02 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on Jul 14, 2012 6:34:36 GMT -8
I wonder if these are are based on the former Branchline passenger cars or all new tooling. It would seem strange for Atlas to tool up a brand new passenger car based on a 1930's and 40's era time frame, especially when the primary focus of their products are more 70's - 90's. What engine does Atlas produce that could pull these? Not many. If it is a branchline, that would make more sense.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 14, 2012 7:01:39 GMT -8
The new Atlas coaches map to the Branchline coaches. If it matters to ya, the single window cars are NYC, the paired window C&O (lucky folks!).
The U30B's are being re-announced. They were first announced in November of 2010, and this current offering appears to be exactly the same as the early one. I didn't order any then, so I can't say for sure that they weren't delivered; but it reads to me that they didn't produce them back in 2010.
Ed
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Post by riogrande on Jul 14, 2012 7:20:26 GMT -8
Ah... that makes sense. There were no notes on the heritage in the description. The price is consistant with todays passenger cars RTR.
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Post by mlehman on Jul 14, 2012 7:41:34 GMT -8
That's a very reasonable price on the coaches, too.
They're not real close, but they could stand-in for the ex-NP Ski Train coaches on the Rio Grande's Ski Train. Not sure, because I haven't built any, but they would give you at least the basis for a better-looking build-up of one of those. The key would be how hard it would be to add in the arches over the paired windows. The arched restroom windows shouldn't be too big a deal.
Not that I have a Ski Train planned. ;D
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Post by riogrande on Jul 14, 2012 11:23:21 GMT -8
I did think of the ski train coaches when I saw them. They had paired windows with the arch pattern. The biggest difference is that the roofs on the ski train cars were filled in along side the clerestory most of the way.
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 14, 2012 11:41:21 GMT -8
I have to admit I'm tempted by the Frisco U boat.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 14, 2012 18:50:26 GMT -8
Atlas is not spending $$ to tool up a new passenger car.
No new engines either.
Hopefully they will stop using the scale Accubreaks on any new freight cars in the future.
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Post by riogrande on Jul 15, 2012 8:49:25 GMT -8
Agree'd, I would have been surprised if they had tooled a new passenger car. They seem to be in "hold" mode for any major new tooled items and just trying to survive the recession.
But if they are going to stay in the market and remain a major player, they are going to have to get the ball rolling soon on new items.
I think everyone agree's that it's high time Atlas joins companies like Intermountain and ER and start shipping their trains with KD's.
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Post by spookyac47 on Jul 15, 2012 9:36:26 GMT -8
Now on Atlas web site... New HO Master Line Passenger Car! A heavyweight passenger coach, in two versions based on NYC single window and C&O paired window... More paint schemes in U30B (BN, Chessie, Frisco, Milw, N&W, NdeM) More paint schemes and numbers on Trainman 50'6" boxcar (LRS, ONT, TASD, RBOX, CN, KCS, MP) And a new line of HO and N street lights... I really haven't visited the Atlas website much since the forum was shut down. |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 15, 2012 9:44:12 GMT -8
Same Spooky, thats the down side to their forum closing - forget about them. But that was their calculated choice.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 15, 2012 11:51:39 GMT -8
Same Spooky, thats the down side to their forum closing - forget about them. But that was their calculated choice. I don't see may Atlas products for sale, and those that I do I am not interesting in. I don't need anymore of their old models rerun. I was mildly interested in the Lumber Cars until they had issues. Same with the stack cars. Probably the car I have the most from the past few years is their intermodal flat car. New products sell. Re runs rarely do well, with some exceptions I guess........  |
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 15, 2012 12:01:55 GMT -8
Isn't Atlas (and Athearn) still recovering from their Chinese contractor pulling the rug out from under them? I think the process of recovering their existing tools and setting them up again justifies not developing a lot of new product. Give them an opportunity to put everything back together again, establish a set of safeguards to prevent losing their investments again, and then see what they produce.
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Post by carrman on Jul 15, 2012 12:05:21 GMT -8
Given them plenty of chances already, and they continue to disappoint.
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Post by curtmc on Jul 15, 2012 16:48:54 GMT -8
Only reason I checked their website before posting here was checking for announcement of late phase GP40-2s (in Chessie)... Instead I found U30Bs... Phtttttttttttttt... No sale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 17:28:50 GMT -8
Plus, BN 5883 should have a single nose headlight (ex-Frisco)...but the description shows a dual low-nose headlight...which is another "close, but no cigar" for Atlas engines.
They produce a supreme drive system...and add in a decent detail package...then hedge on an important spotting feature of the BN and Frisco units?
They do make an excellent UBoat, however.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 18:02:51 GMT -8
They produce a supreme drive system...and add in a decent detail package... I totally agree on the drive. For detailing I wouldn't say its decent. It is usually generic to mostly generic. I'd say the detailing on an Atlas diesel is nothing spectacular. The GP40-2 was the first unit Atlas at least started to install the correct light packages to match the prototype. Atlas has and continues to lag far behind Athearn when it come to prototype specific detailing. Heck, even good old Bowser is now doing prototype specific detailing. |
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 15, 2012 18:17:57 GMT -8
Tom: You just convinced me not to order a BN unit. Oh well. I will keep the 3 U-30-C's and be happy. They are reasonably close to the BN's detail wise.
Bill
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Post by spookyac47 on Jul 15, 2012 18:21:24 GMT -8
Plus, BN 5883 should have a single nose headlight (ex-Frisco)...but the description shows a dual low-nose headlight...which is another "close, but no cigar" for Atlas engines. They produce a supreme drive system...and add in a decent detail package...then hedge on an important spotting feature of the BN and Frisco units? They do make an excellent UBoat, however. Agreed, they make a pretty good and quiet drive system. The "newest" locomotive I have purchased from them is the HO SD-35 since the manufacture date by EMD is right at the extreme upper edge of the dateline I model. I have some of the RS-1, H16-44, Trainmaster and SD-35 locomotives but passed on some of the others such as the RSD4/5, RS-3, C-425 and GP-7 as I was not in a locomotive buying mode when they were released. For U-boats, U-25 and U-28 locomotives would fit, but again at the upper edge of my modeling dateline and Atlas has not done those. For some reason, I have never purchased Atlas rolling stock . . .  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 14:41:51 GMT -8
It shouldn't be a big issue to have the light replaced with a Detail Associates' part...but, why include the dual headlight?
I might get a couple of undecs and replace the lights myself...it's a shame, since Atlas does a nice paint job. Then again, the light shouldn't be that big of a deal for replacement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 14:43:21 GMT -8
Tom: You just convinced me not to order a BN unit. Oh well. I will keep the 3 U-30-C's and be happy. They are reasonably close to the BN's detail wise. Bill Bill: I don't know...I wanted a couple of BN units myself...but I am going to think it over...with the wrong lights on the nose...Maybe I'll get an undecorated unit? |
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 16, 2012 18:20:57 GMT -8
Tom: By the time I am interested in, mid 1980's, most of the U-30-B's had the nose lights removed, and hole was plated over, that should not be too hard. I am thinking they are a bit lower on my priority list that the 4 BN Genesis GP-9's I just ordered. Those will set me back a bit. Plus I am hoping Athearn does the Genesis GP-38-2's in BN shortly, and I DEFINITELY WILL BE IN FOUR FOUR OF THOSE with Sound.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 18:41:14 GMT -8
I hear you on the Genesis units...Yep...I imagine that Athearn will be offering those GP38-2's in several BN varieties...along with my MoPac units...I'm interested in a couple of ex-Frisco GP38-2's...personally.
Eventually, we could see the GP40-2's in Genesis as well...with CORRECT road-specific detailing...along with GP50's...all of which would also fit into the BN fold for you. ;D
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 16, 2012 18:46:33 GMT -8
Tom: I better be careful or the Chief Financial Officer might pull the plug. I actually am very happy with my both BN and SP Atlas GP-40-2's, they may not be perfect, then again, neither am I.
Bill
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 16, 2012 18:53:09 GMT -8
Tom: Come to think of it I would be up for 4 of the BN GP-50's. Particularly if they are in the White faced scheme. If they do the extended cab option, I could be talked into a couple more.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 15:24:54 GMT -8
Let's hope they are coming...they fit right into the common tooling/drive of the GP38-2...in fact...could you imagine the possibilities of Athearn doing all phases of the GP38/40; GP38-2/GP40-2...AND the GP50?!!!!
Sounds good to me!! ;D
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 17, 2012 15:30:18 GMT -8
Tom: I agree, I better start saving now. Multiple ex SLSF and BN GP-38-2's and GP-50's. Could be expensive. Based on what I have seen the Genesis unit looks like a sure winner.
Bill
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