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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 10:20:02 GMT -8
I visited my LHS today and had a long chat with the store's owner, who said he was informed that the DD40's are supposed to ship on Wednesday. Then he said with a laugh....."I'll believe it when they arrive. Athearn says a lot of things to the dealers and most of the time it turns out to be a false."  I have an undecorated with sound on pre-order and I'm fairly excited to get the locomotive. |
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 24, 2012 11:41:10 GMT -8
I visited my LHS today and had a long chat with the store's owner, who said he was informed that the DD40's are supposed to ship on Wednesday. Then he said with a laugh....."I'll believe it when they arrive. Athearn says a lot of things to the dealers and most of the time it turns out to be a false." I have an undecorated with sound on pre-order and I'm fairly excited to get the locomotive. \ Interesting. Do you know if the sound reflect the dual motors with more than one speakers?? The E series dual motor have this feature and it does sound good. Are you going to paint this undecorated unit? Larry |
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Post by Donnell Wells on Jul 24, 2012 12:01:15 GMT -8
I thought I read something about them having two motors and two decoders. Also, both the body the fuel tank are large enough to house two 1" round speakers, so the duel prime mover sound shouldn't be a problem.
I'll probably spring for one, and then detail/customize some Bachmann's to match...  
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 24, 2012 12:23:03 GMT -8
I thought I read something about them having two motors and two decoders. Also, both the body the fuel tank are large enough to house two 1" round speakers, so the duel prime mover sound shouldn't be a problem.
I'll probably spring for one, and then detail/customize some Bachmann's to match...
Donnell
Donnell As you know, this model is very desirable for a Union Pacific fan but I am holding off for the 6936 only. I emailed Athearn and this model will be available in the future according to the response. I stopped collecting past the 1958 era for my general Union Pacific locomotives but retained the option to purchase the new Heritage units. The sound can be duplicated by two decoders or stero output so the two speakers get different output. I have one of the E9's for the CSRM on order to help the museum and get to hear the new sound system with the dual motor sound. The two motors were used to eliminate the drive shaft from running in the walkway. That is a nice feature. Larry |
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Post by Donnell Wells on Jul 24, 2012 12:37:58 GMT -8
Hi Larry,
I usually don't really have a preference for any particular numbers, but I am leaning toward 6915 and 6925 for sure, and maybe 6930 and 6946 to round out the set.
Donnell
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 15:32:04 GMT -8
I visited my LHS today and had a long chat with the store's owner, who said he was informed that the DD40's are supposed to ship on Wednesday. Then he said with a laugh....."I'll believe it when they arrive. Athearn says a lot of things to the dealers and most of the time it turns out to be a false." I have an undecorated with sound on pre-order and I'm fairly excited to get the locomotive. \ Interesting. Do you know if the sound reflect the dual motors with more than one speakers?? The E series dual motor have this feature and it does sound good. Are you going to paint this undecorated unit? Larry The sound units have dual motors, speakers and decoders. So just like the prototype you have two locomotives on a common frame. I want to paint it number 6930, circa mid-1970's. I have an Athearn RTR undecorated 116" snoot SD40-2 that I am doing as a "Fast Forty" in the units as delivered scheme. The real 6930 is now housed at the Illinois Railway Museum. |
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 25, 2012 6:19:52 GMT -8
\ Interesting. Do you know if the sound reflect the dual motors with more than one speakers?? The E series dual motor have this feature and it does sound good. Are you going to paint this undecorated unit? Larry The sound units have dual motors, speakers and decoders. So just like the prototype you have two locomotives on a common frame. I want to paint it number 6930, circa mid-1970's. I have an Athearn RTR undecorated 116" snoot SD40-2 that I am doing as a "Fast Forty" in the units as delivered scheme. The real 6930 is now housed at the Illinois Railway Museum. I forgot that the 6930 was at the IRM. I have been there several times over the years and enjoyed seeing the unit along with the Turbine. I have to say the Union Pacific has really preserved some great locomotives by donating so many good examples to museums and parks over the years. Larry |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2012 8:15:34 GMT -8
The sound units have dual motors, speakers and decoders. So just like the prototype you have two locomotives on a common frame. I want to paint it number 6930, circa mid-1970's. I have an Athearn RTR undecorated 116" snoot SD40-2 that I am doing as a "Fast Forty" in the units as delivered scheme. The real 6930 is now housed at the Illinois Railway Museum. I forgot that the 6930 was at the IRM. I have been there several times over the years and enjoyed seeing the unit along with the Turbine. I have to say the Union Pacific has really preserved some great locomotives by donating so many good examples to museums and parks over the years. Larry The DDA40X and IRM is an interesting history. When UP began retiring the Centennials, IRM immediately wrote UP expressing interest in preserving one of the locomotives. Union Pacific's response was swift and to the point... NO. Why? Union Pacific placed some rigid rules on the preservation of the Centennials. In order to be considered to receive a Centennial, the park, municipality or museum had to meet certain requirements. 1. If you had a UP 4-8-8-4 Big Boy you could be considered to receive a DDA40X. 2. If you were a museum that was served by the Union Pacific, also known as an online museum, you would be considered. At the time of the Centennial's retirement, IRM was neither an online museum nor did they have a Big Boy in the collection. I was an active member of the museum during this period and it frustrated the heck out of the museum. At that time, IRM had the largest number of preserved diesels of any museum, Many of the units in IRM's collection are historically significant. But that didn't carry an ounce of weight with UP. The Smoky Hill Museum in the Kansas City area had been donated a DDA40X number 6930 by UP. Smoky Hill was in desperate need of coaches for its excursion train and didn't want to spend much money. IRM had acquired a number of former Wabash heavyweight coaches last used by successor N&W in Chicago to Orland Park commuter service. IRM didn't need the Wabash cars, but wanted a Centennial. Smoky Valley wanted the coaches, but didn't need the Centennial. So Smoky Valley traded the 6930 to IRM for the former Wabash coaches. As added frosting on the cake, IRM also received from Smoky Valley, GE "Big Blow" turbine set #18/18B and the UP rotrary snow plow. Everyone was happy and got what they wanted. Currently 6930 is not operational. It needs a massive amount work and money to ever operate under its own power again. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jul 25, 2012 8:25:00 GMT -8
I was at IRM about a month ago and didn't see the Centennial. They must have it tucked away in the diesel barn.
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Post by Donnell Wells on Jul 25, 2012 9:22:15 GMT -8
I lived in Illinois for a good number of years a NEVER visited IRM!   However, it will be one of the first places I visit on the very next trip to Chicago! All the units I wish to model are among those that are preserved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2012 10:16:44 GMT -8
I was at IRM about a month ago and didn't see the Centennial. They must have it tucked away in the diesel barn. It is inside Barn 11. It was getting rough when it arrived at IRM. After many years outside, it is now in very poor condition. The little bit of money in the 6930's restricted fund was swallowed up when it was used to fund it's inside storage space. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jul 25, 2012 10:26:04 GMT -8
Which one is barn 11? The only barn we didn't walk through was #2 on this map.  |
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Post by onequiknova on Jul 25, 2012 10:31:43 GMT -8
Now that i think about it, the new barn way out back wasn't open either.
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Post by sd45longhoodfoward on Jul 29, 2012 9:42:38 GMT -8
This sounds very intresting !where can i get some online information on the DDA40's it is one of the very few locomotives that slipped under my radar. I am a mega fan of high horse power locomotives and mountain railroading with big brute diesels pusher units
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 10:49:46 GMT -8
Athearn stated on another forum and from information given to my LHS, that the Centennial's were to be shipped Wednesday or Thursday. But now it looks like the wheels have fallen off the wagon...... On Thursday, the Athearn site listed some of the DD's as "in stock". Horizon even began posting listings on e-Bay for the DD. On Friday, the Athearn site now listed the arrival date as mid-August and the "in stock" was removed. Horizon pulled all of its e-Bay auctions for the model. So.....how can a model that Athearn posts "has passed inspection and is shipping" go from here to an anticipated mid-August arrival? Did the UPS truck wreck on its way out of Athearn? Did Athearn anticipate the locomotives were to pass "inspection" but problems have arisen and corrections made? Or did Athearn anticipate the model's arrival and the boat is still out to sea? ?? Guess the wait is still on........sigh  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 29, 2012 11:14:35 GMT -8
Athearn says the locos are in Illinois. They could be lyin' but why bother? IF shipping has been delayed, as it appears, then I would guess that they discovered a problem with them that they didn't care to ship out. And I would rather get mine "two weeks" from now without problems rather than this week with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 11:26:54 GMT -8
Athearn says the locos are in Illinois. They could be lyin' but why bother? IF shipping has been delayed, as it appears, then I would guess that they discovered a problem with them that they didn't care to ship out. And I would rather get mine "two weeks" from now without problems rather than this week with them. Ed I fully agree Ed. But then the Athearn rep on TO shouldn't be posting "they've passed inspection and are shipping". If there is a problem then they haven't passed inspection.....successfully! |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 29, 2012 12:56:27 GMT -8
Jim,
I'm envisioning some guy running up to the UPS truck just as the door's rolling down screaming: "Nnooooooo!!!!!"
Ed
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Post by Keith Turley on Jul 29, 2012 13:32:06 GMT -8
We were invoiced and our shipment supposedly left Illinois on Wednesday....I will post if and when it arrives.
Keith Turley
The Original Whistle Stop
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 29, 2012 15:40:35 GMT -8
We were invoiced and our shipment supposedly left Illinois on Wednesday....I will post if and when it arrives.
Keith Turley
The Original Whistle Stop
Pasadena, California[ Thanks Keith. It sounds like they should be in your place soon. Larry |
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Post by theengineshed on Jul 29, 2012 16:14:02 GMT -8
Athearn says the locos are in Illinois. They could be lyin' but why bother? IF shipping has been delayed, as it appears, then I would guess that they discovered a problem with them that they didn't care to ship out. Athearn posted three photos on their FB page this past Wednesday; one photo had about forty units in boxes on a table in the warehouse. There is a middle aged blond in another photo stacking the boxes. She could sure pass for an Illinoisian. I suppose Athearn could have flown her to China for the photo shoot to fool us though...  |
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Post by athearnmodeltrains on Jul 29, 2012 16:15:04 GMT -8
DDA-40X locomotives are en route to retailers as I type. All orders shipped from our Champaign, IL distribution center this time. To ensure they arrive at retailers at approximately the same time, dealers from the Rocky Mountains - west were shipped on Wednesday 7/25. Midwest and East Coast parcels were shipped on Friday 7/27.
Keith: I just tracked your shipment and it's scheduled to be delivered on Tuesday (7/31).
At this point, we have no additional inventory available. The models we QA tested are being sent to our West Coast facility in Ontario, CA. This is why the ETA was updated to mid-August.
Shane Wilson
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Horizon Hobby, Inc.
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Post by bnsf971 on Jul 29, 2012 16:40:53 GMT -8
Just for future reference, accidents happen, even on the ocean. I have a container heading to Europe now, that is on board a ship that caught fire and has been abandoned. Nobody knows when or even if, my container will arrive. It's not looking good. So, just because it's "on the water", doesn't mean it will get there in one piece, or at all.  |
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 29, 2012 17:07:36 GMT -8
Just for future reference, accidents happen, even on the ocean. I have a container heading to Europe now, that is on board a ship that caught fire and has been abandoned. Nobody knows when or even if, my container will arrive. It's not looking good. So, just because it's "on the water", doesn't mean it will get there in one piece, or at all. Ouch!!! Good luck with the container. Larry |
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Post by theengineshed on Jul 29, 2012 17:11:17 GMT -8
Just for future reference, accidents happen, even on the ocean. I have a container heading to Europe now, that is on board a ship that caught fire and has been abandoned. I'm always amazed by the numbers involved. The MSC Flaminia, in the photo above, reportedly had 2,876 containers on board when the fire started... |
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Post by bnsf971 on Jul 29, 2012 18:11:34 GMT -8
Just for future reference, accidents happen, even on the ocean. I have a container heading to Europe now, that is on board a ship that caught fire and has been abandoned. I'm always amazed by the numbers involved. The MSC Flaminia, in the photo above, reportedly had 2,876 containers on board when the fire started... Yes, at last report, the Salvage teams were sending two boats to fight the fire, and crews to stabilize the ship, if possible. The above photo is the only current one I know of. Our container is insured, but it will still be a while before it is released, if it is even still intact. Imagine a container of DD40's on that ship, and what it might do to a manufacturer/importer if it was lost. |
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Post by calzephyr on Jul 29, 2012 18:39:41 GMT -8
I'm always amazed by the numbers involved. The MSC Flaminia, in the photo above, reportedly had 2,876 containers on board when the fire started... Yes, at last report, the Salvage teams were sending two boats to fight the fire, and crews to stabilize the ship, if possible. The above photo is the only current one I know of. Our container is insured, but it will still be a while before it is released, if it is even still intact. Imagine a container of DD40's on that ship, and what it might do to a manufacturer/importer if it was lost. In the case you cited, the company would have to start over on the project and hope for some kind of money from the insurance. That could bankrupt some small importers. That is an interesting point, is this type of cargo insured? Larry |
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Post by bnsf971 on Jul 30, 2012 3:30:39 GMT -8
Yes, at last report, the Salvage teams were sending two boats to fight the fire, and crews to stabilize the ship, if possible. The above photo is the only current one I know of. Our container is insured, but it will still be a while before it is released, if it is even still intact. Imagine a container of DD40's on that ship, and what it might do to a manufacturer/importer if it was lost. In the case you cited, the company would have to start over on the project and hope for some kind of money from the insurance. That could bankrupt some small importers. That is an interesting point, is this type of cargo insured? Larry I remember a decade and a half ago, a container with Kato Mikadoes was lost overboard in a storm. The load was insured, but it still set Kato back. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 4:50:39 GMT -8
DDA-40X locomotives are en route to retailers as I type. All orders shipped from our Champaign, IL distribution center this time. To ensure they arrive at retailers at approximately the same time, dealers from the Rocky Mountains - west were shipped on Wednesday 7/25. Midwest and East Coast parcels were shipped on Friday 7/27. Keith: I just tracked your shipment and it's scheduled to be delivered on Tuesday (7/31). At this point, we have no additional inventory available. The models we QA tested are being sent to our West Coast facility in Ontario, CA. This is why the ETA was updated to mid-August. Shane Wilson Athearn Brand Manager Horizon Hobby, Inc. Thank you Shane.  |
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