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Post by slowfreight on Oct 16, 2015 15:35:39 GMT -8
Hindsight is always 20/20. 'someone should have done this car' 'someone should have done that car' but at the time it may not have been so simple or clear. Enjoy! Kelley. I will disagree vehemently there. Many of us asked for Budds then, earlier, and often for many years. ConCor did quite well selling Budd bilevels since the mid 80's in N scale. It was simple and clear then as today, and believe me, I have considered strongly financing one of the existing manufacturers to build these in HO just to get it started. What holds me back? I promised myself I wouldn't turn the hobby into a business.
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Post by slowfreight on Oct 16, 2015 15:37:27 GMT -8
The Katos were especially nice because for C&NW they did the St. Louis Car Co. early cars (or whoever they were) with the different windows. They featured the prominent window gaskets on those cars which really set them apart from the Pullmans. They would have been nice anyway, but the windows really made them a screamer. Unfortunately I missed buying any and always hoped for a re-run. Half right, peoriaman. I later learned that there were 32 cars with the 16-window sides built by Pullman, and on closer looks at photos that's what Kato released. I think there might be a brass version of the St. Louis car, but there's not really a viable way to kitbash cars 1-16 from the Kato body.
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Oct 16, 2015 16:58:14 GMT -8
Besides the wider standard Budd fluting, the CB&Q cars were originally steam heated, with Waukesha propane fired ice engine air conditioning and HEP provided from rebuilt heavyweight cars with a semi streamlined roof line. They were rebuilt in 1973 to standard 480 volt three phase HEP when the suburban E9 fleet were rebuilt with HEP at Morrison Knudsen. As built cab car number 790 with no nose ladders or stripes. Note the notch in the pilot for the steam line. As built cab car number 791. Notice the propane cylinder cabinet and Waukesha ice engine. One of the rebuilt combines which had an HEP generator in the front to provide electricity of the lights. Some of the rebuilt heavyweight coaches with HEP for the lighting at Aurora.
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Oct 17, 2015 6:31:49 GMT -8
Milwaukee Road Budd cab car early years. Note the lack of safety stripping on the front, no fixed red lights when being pulled and the Red Mars light. Milwaukee Road cab car now with red warning lights and safety stripping. Rock Island cab car line up RTA(ex-Milwaukee Road) cab cab. Note the removal of the red Mars light. RTA cab car on the Rock Island. Note this still has the red Mars RTA/BN Coach. Note the lack of equipment on the underside of the car after conversion to HEP. The former CB&Q cars also lost all the conduit on the ends when converted to 480 volt full HEP. Metra cab car. Metra/BN cab car. Note the notch for the steam line still remains in the pilot. Metra coach former CB&Q. Note the CB&Q cars have different trucks from the Pullman, Milwaukee Road and Rock Island cars. Metra former CB&Q now former cab car with plated over engineer's and fireman's windows. Former Milwaukee Road cab car also with its cab now removed. Metra removed the cabs from all the former CB&Q, Milwaukee Road and Rock Island cars.
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Post by rockisland652 on Oct 17, 2015 11:30:30 GMT -8
Having ridden all of them, the heavy Q cars still ride the best.
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