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Post by hovehicle on Feb 21, 2018 11:56:51 GMT -8
This car could be good for a few foobie paint schemes, such as Soo LINE candy apple red paint with con striping, white Soo Line paint with black lettering and forward slant Soo logo (with con striping). and WC with their usual yellow horizontal stripes. Yes, I'm picturing future runs with some of these suggestions!
Vito L.
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ANDY117
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Post by ANDY117 on Feb 21, 2018 20:02:55 GMT -8
Where did the old LBF/Hubert's 50' and 60' NSC boxcars wind up? Those certainly filled a void, and I need quite a few of the TBOX and CP versions.
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Post by mkulak on Feb 22, 2018 5:45:02 GMT -8
Where did the old LBF/Hubert's 50' and 60' NSC boxcars wind up? Those certainly filled a void, and I need quite a few of the TBOX and CP versions. Last info I got about the old LBF car was it was with Intermountain. Whether they plan to re-release or trade it off is the other question but don't expect a re-run to soon. Glad I bought a bunch of them when I did.
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Post by jmcin on Feb 25, 2018 13:14:58 GMT -8
The old LBF/Hubert's 60' NSC boxcars appear to be a bit undersized , has anyone compared the dimensions with the prototype ?
Thanks, Jim McIntyre
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Post by dstark on May 2, 2018 7:26:35 GMT -8
I'm guessing you mean one is accurate plus the 2 TBOX schemes, or weren't those up yet? Actually, the TBOX cars have Redi roofs (the kind with embossed ridges, like the Athearn car, rather than the combination diagonal-panel/X-panel as on the model). The roof is correct for AOK 112000-112149, so I guess that does make the AOK paint scheme the only accurate one that they are releasing at this point, or any other point, unfortunately. Jumping in late here... Aside from AOK 112000-112149, the Walthers car will be good for some TBOX XGH60s with combination diagonal/X-panel roofs. This class has a mix of roofs, I haven't narrowed down where the split between types falls. Seems I can't upload an image as forum space is full, but Dave Olsen's shot of TBOX 161142 here nicely shows the roof matching the Walhers car: TBOX 161142Doug Stark
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Post by edgecrusher on May 2, 2018 9:17:40 GMT -8
I really have a hard time figuring out why they put in the effort to make the door rods nice looking separate pieces only to totally fail on the ladders and brake chain.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 17:25:06 GMT -8
I really have a hard time figuring out why they put in the effort to make the door rods nice looking separate pieces only to totally fail on the ladders and brake chain. Since it's Mainline they probably had a choice: Do separate ladders, or door rods, but we can't do both since it's a value priced line. Imagine how it would look with chunkier, separate ladders and separate door rods. Although the cylindrical hopper has a see through roof walk, and while it may not be the best they did what they could for the price point, and i think it looks fine. It's better this way. And by looking at the walthers website, all road names and paint schemes are already sold out, so i think people don't really care. Street price at that one train store out east will probably be around 20$ . It's a good deal.
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Post by drolsen on May 6, 2018 14:44:18 GMT -8
I really have a hard time figuring out why they put in the effort to make the door rods nice looking separate pieces only to totally fail on the ladders and brake chain. From my discussion with someone who has helped Walthers select the prototypes for their recent Mainline releases, they are deliberately picking freight cars that they feel will appeal to modelers who want a affordable and durable “trainset” level of detail. The PS 4000 gondola and the ACF 5090 box car were both prototypes that people wanted a high-quality model of, this 60’ box car is appealing as a TBOX prototype and a stand-in for others, and Walthers basically beat other manufacturers to the punch. In this particular case, I’m sure they made the assessment (correctly, in my opinion) that the ladders and end details are what tend to get broken on highly detailed models, while the door locking bars are usually more durable. They intentionally chose what to make separate and what to mold on for durability. The ACF 5090 is the same way - it actually has pretty nice separate underbody brake details but the ladders are all molded.
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Post by scaledriver on May 6, 2018 17:15:28 GMT -8
Walthers Mainline products are generally very nice and from all that I hear, sell well.
A nice balance between price and detail fidelity.
This 60 foot boxcar will almost definitely be another winner.
Thank you
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Post by middledivision on May 6, 2018 19:04:52 GMT -8
^^^ Already sold out at Walthers.
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Post by Amboy Secondary on May 7, 2018 12:28:10 GMT -8
" Ed, Actually Advance modelers was replacing those "Hi-Fi" drives with Hobbytown drives made for Athearn's GP7 and F7A. Nobody liked those rubber band drives. Athearn's gear drive of that era left a lot to be desired. Athearn's new drive of the 60s was a vast improvement over their older gear drive. Still Hobbytown was the drive of choice for advance modelers of that era. But the "Mainline" modelers bought the rubber band. In droves. Ask Irv's ghost. "Proto" modelers (as you point out) bought the Hobbytown. As an "upwardly mobile" modeler, I bought a Hobbytown as soon as my allowance could cover the cost. AND. It was on sale! $9 for an RSD drive. THEN I had to find a shell to put on top of it. The rubber band drive had three things going for it: it was cheap, it was easy to fix, it was exceptionally smooth and quite once it got up to speed--much better than any gear drive at the time. Of course, slow speed switching was out of the question. But if you wanted an affordable ABBA set to pull a never-stopping mainline fright, they were entirely adequate. For their day. Ed Of course, the rubber band drives were perfect for high speed rail, pulling Penn Line 60' cars around 18" radius curves at Metroliner speed and better. Of course the stop at the Revell Small town station was kind of rough. My LHS back then, didn't carry Hobbytown drives, only what his distributer was pushing. The Mantua/Tyco dula motored F9 was a better choice. The Walthers 60' box car is actually Post Conrail, while I'm stuck in the PC era...
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