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Post by steveturner on Sept 2, 2018 11:19:15 GMT -8
Guys the default horn from Intermountain Dual single chimes selection 14. Is this correct or should I be using a different horn selection. I also messed up guess this is a passenger loco I have been using it for freight, o well I have it now. I fell in love with that old green/yellow/black paint scheme Thanks .Steve
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Post by bnsf971 on Sept 2, 2018 11:43:47 GMT -8
Isn't the horn on the roof a Holden M3, or something similar?
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Post by steveturner on Sept 2, 2018 12:19:33 GMT -8
Isn't the horn on the roof a Holden M3, or something similar? You might be correct I shall see what Rapido used. This is an old paint scheme and I don't know if the horn changed over the years. Thanks Steve |
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 2, 2018 21:41:05 GMT -8
The Nathan M3H 3-chime horn is what you're looking for. It was CN & CP's horn of choice on new locos for much of the 50's and 60's.
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 3, 2018 6:19:49 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 3, 2018 7:50:19 GMT -8
Unfortunately that information is incorrect. While bell orientation may have changed (easily done on both M3H and K3L horns, you just unbolt and reverse the bell/power chambers on the manifold), there was no mass-scale M3H to K3L horn swapping going on. Over time, newer K3L's did start to show up on CN F-units as horns got swapped out if defective, but there are many photos online of CN and ex-CN FP9's and FPA4's with M3H's in the VIA era. As always, it's best to consult prototype photos of the unit in the era in question to be sure. |
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Post by steveturner on Sept 3, 2018 8:39:41 GMT -8
Thanks for getting me set straight guys. Intermouintain had Nathan/Holdem M3H I used that . Steve
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Post by rapidotrains on Sept 5, 2018 9:16:55 GMT -8
Unfortunately that information is incorrect. While bell orientation may have changed (easily done on both M3H and K3L horns, you just unbolt and reverse the bell/power chambers on the manifold), there was no mass-scale M3H to K3L horn swapping going on. Over time, newer K3L's did start to show up on CN F-units as horns got swapped out if defective, but there are many photos online of CN and ex-CN FP9's and FPA4's with M3H's in the VIA era. As always, it's best to consult prototype photos of the unit in the era in question to be sure. Yeah, I wrote that about ten years ago based on the information I had at the time. We really should update it with more accurate info. A very large number of F units did have their M3s changed to K3s in the 1970s. In the 1980s, M3s were very rare on VIA. -Jason |
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 5, 2018 10:35:52 GMT -8
Unfortunately that information is incorrect. While bell orientation may have changed (easily done on both M3H and K3L horns, you just unbolt and reverse the bell/power chambers on the manifold), there was no mass-scale M3H to K3L horn swapping going on. Over time, newer K3L's did start to show up on CN F-units as horns got swapped out if defective, but there are many photos online of CN and ex-CN FP9's and FPA4's with M3H's in the VIA era. As always, it's best to consult prototype photos of the unit in the era in question to be sure. Yeah, I wrote that about ten years ago based on the information I had at the time. We really should update it with more accurate info. A very large number of F units did have their M3s changed to K3s in the 1970s. In the 1980s, M3s were very rare on VIA. -Jason Weeeeellllll, I wouldn't say M3H's were rare at all during VIA. In fact I'd say it was about 50-50 M3H and K3L by then, based on all the VIA FP9 and FPA4 photos I've looked through. M3H's are rather easy to spot as they had a have a noticeable protruding tab at the bottom of each back cap where they bolted together (K-series didn't have this) and had different-sized diameter bells/back caps (the K-series had them all the same size), as well as an angled casting stamped into at the back of each back cap (and the back caps on the M's were "fatter" looking than on the K horns). This sampling of VIA units all have M3H's: www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=12497www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=11966www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=21509www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=20535www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=14239www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=17926Of course, all the new power such as LRC's and F40's all came with K3's, but the M's could still be found on the ol' F's and RDC's. |
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Post by 12bridge on Sept 5, 2018 10:54:29 GMT -8
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