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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 11:33:49 GMT -8
Rapido have released their video of the Royal Hudson running on a layout
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 14:24:58 GMT -8
I was watching that video last night and my wife saw and said to me "I thought that was a real train at first".
Good job Rapido, this one is "wife approved"!
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 15, 2018 14:47:03 GMT -8
Yeah, there were a couple of shots that looked real to me, too.
Very nice loco.
Ed
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Post by rapidotrains on Sept 15, 2018 17:17:39 GMT -8
Wow! Thanks for the kind words!
-Jason
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 14:55:28 GMT -8
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Post by sd80mac on Sept 17, 2018 7:04:44 GMT -8
If this Hudson is any indication of how nice Rapido's steam models are going to be, I'm pumped. I can't justify a Royal Hudson, but I do recall once hearing/reading that Rapido had plans to do CN U class 4-8-4s. It's a long shot, but I'd be extremely pleased if they also did the very similar GTW U-3 class 4-8-4s! I'm not privy to all of the differences, but the GTW engines were based on the CN designs.  |
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 17, 2018 8:42:31 GMT -8
If this Hudson is any indication of how nice Rapido's steam models are going to be, I'm pumped. I can't justify a Royal Hudson, but I do recall once hearing/reading that Rapido had plans to do CN U class 4-8-4s. It's a long shot, but I'd be extremely pleased if they also did the very similar GTW U-3 class 4-8-4s! I'm not privy to all of the differences, but the GTW engines were based on the CN designs.
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Post by sd80mac on Sept 17, 2018 8:52:59 GMT -8
I see, I see. Well, I'd prefer a U3, but I'd love a U4, too!
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 17, 2018 15:02:14 GMT -8
True Line Trains did the U2's, which were, well, let's just say they had issues. But they're closer to the U3's than the U4 was. A few U3's were actually sent up to CN to run their last days in the southern Ontario area: www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=13305 |
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Post by talltim on Sept 18, 2018 7:18:31 GMT -8
If this Hudson is any indication of how nice Rapido's steam models are going to be, I'm pumped. Rapido have of course just released a steam model |
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Post by bdhicks on Sept 18, 2018 7:41:35 GMT -8
I wonder how well they're holding to the original schedule for their Icons of Steam line. They're cutting things pretty close if they still expect to get the Royal Hudson out in 2018, and I don't think they've mentioned any work so far on the two ten wheelers they scheduled for 2019.
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Post by riogrande on Sept 18, 2018 8:21:32 GMT -8
I wonder how well they're holding to the original schedule for their Icons of Steam line. They're cutting things pretty close if they still expect to get the Royal Hudson out in 2018, and I don't think they've mentioned any work so far on the two ten wheelers they scheduled for 2019. It looks like it's already one year behind the original projected delivery: model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/23963 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 9:18:41 GMT -8
I wonder how well they're holding to the original schedule for their Icons of Steam line. They're cutting things pretty close if they still expect to get the Royal Hudson out in 2018, and I don't think they've mentioned any work so far on the two ten wheelers they scheduled for 2019. They posted yesterday on Facebook that the factory says the Royal Hudson should leave China before Chinese New Year in early February, so possibly March arrival. |
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Post by GP40P-2 on Sept 18, 2018 9:33:44 GMT -8
Rapidoians: Is this version of the auxiliary tender going to be available? Royal Hudson Auxiliary TenderI see the extra CP tenders, do I need to get one of those and reletter it? Thanks |
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 18, 2018 17:44:08 GMT -8
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Post by leikec on Sept 19, 2018 14:00:57 GMT -8
I'm so looking forward to this model!
The only thing better would be for them to also make it in N scale and S scale.
Hey...a guy can dream...
Jeff C
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 15:15:48 GMT -8
The only thing better would be for them to also make it in N scale and S scale.
S would certainly be interesting, though I suspect the CPR D10/CNR 10 wheelers or maybe the Pacifics would be a better choice in terms of usuability. Add in some of the smaller diesels Rapido are producing (RS11/18) and you could have yourself a nice fleet for an S scale layout...
The problem is that I doubt you could get the several thousand orders required for it to be viable in S, and even several thousand N scale Royal Hudson's might be a stretch.
Still, if someone wants to put the effort in and put up the money (or crowd fund) I am sure Rapido or many other manufacturers would be willing to talk if presented with someone wanting to commission the models - see Revolution Trains (crowd funding), Realtrack (commission), or Rails of Sheffield / Kernow Model Centre (both retailers who have commissioned models from Rapido) for ways it can be done.
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Post by leikec on Sept 20, 2018 13:52:34 GMT -8
I'm not that energetic. My O scale Weaver Royal and a couple of the Rapido HO beauties will have to do. :-)
Jeff C
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 17:04:57 GMT -8
I wonder if the 2-8-0 they are doing will be similar to the CLC 2-8-0? It would be a cool engine to have...
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 20, 2018 18:39:40 GMT -8
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Post by GP40P-2 on Sept 20, 2018 19:33:15 GMT -8
Good picture of the prototype "Royal Hudson" tender there (can even identify the trucks), but sadly they aren't offering it as an exclusive or otherwise. I would think Rapido or PWRS could sell a few more tenders if offered this way? Looks like a relettering job.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 3:36:12 GMT -8
Anyone interested in the Icons of Steam series will want to read the important essay by Jason in the latest Rapido Newsletter (104) whenever it gets made publicly available if your aren't on their email list.
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Post by canrailfan on Sept 21, 2018 5:42:28 GMT -8
I read Jason's item on the Icons of Canadian Steam project and have to say I'm disappointed. The decision to make the next release the H1a/b Hudson is a mistake in my opinion. I'm waiting for the smaller mixed-service steam locomotives, specifically the CP/CN Ten-Wheelers and the CN Consolidation.
While the H1a/b is certainly a desirable locomotive it is still not one likely to be seen on way-freights or branchline passenger trains. I think this is where there is a definite void in accurate Canadian steam models and I believe the smaller locomotives would sell very well.
I recognize the business reason put forward but if the smaller locos are delayed another 2-3 years it is very likely someone else will jump in and make less accurate/complete models that will soak up some of the market, leaving the Rapido Trains models on even more tenuous ground.
I hope Rapido will re-consider their decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 7:13:51 GMT -8
I recognize the business reason put forward but if the smaller locos are delayed another 2-3 years I could be wrong and mis-reading things, but from what I can infer it isn't really a question of the smaller locos delayed another 2-3 years but if the rest of the locos get made at all. Again, my interpretation, the decision to move to the regular Hudson as the next release is based on the fact that the additional tooling required is minimal given what is already tooled for the Royal Hudson and the hope that when people actually see the Royal Hudson starting March of next year (on YouTube, layouts at shows, in hobby shops, etc.) that will help drive demand for further steam locos. To be blunt, I think it is very commendable of Jason and Rapido to even commit to spending the relatively minimal extra amount for this new plan given the apparent lack of interest shown in the Royal Hudson. I suspect many of us would find it far easier to just produce the Royal Hudson and walk away. I hope Rapido will re-consider their decision. I suspect the only thing at this point would be a very significant increase in orders of the Royal Hudson before the end of the month. |
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Post by cp6027 on Sept 21, 2018 11:15:38 GMT -8
I read Jason's item on the Icons of Canadian Steam project and have to say I'm disappointed. The decision to make the next release the H1a/b Hudson is a mistake in my opinion. I'm waiting for the smaller mixed-service steam locomotives, specifically the CP/CN Ten-Wheelers and the CN Consolidation. While the H1a/b is certainly a desirable locomotive it is still not one likely to be seen on way-freights or branchline passenger trains. I think this is where there is a definite void in accurate Canadian steam models and I believe the smaller locomotives would sell very well. I recognize the business reason put forward but if the smaller locos are delayed another 2-3 years it is very likely someone else will jump in and make less accurate/complete models that will soak up some of the market, leaving the Rapido Trains models on even more tenuous ground. I hope Rapido will re-consider their decision. I think it makes perfect sense to leverage the Royal Hudson drive and other relevant tooling bits by making the H1a/b next. This approach will also allow Rapido to tap into the more modern market with the 2816 excursion version. Regarding "less accurate/complete models that will soak up some of the market", this has already happened. Shira Trains is producing a less detailed plastic version of the CP D10h 4-6-0. Personally, I do hope Rapido continues with the steam releases because I plan to purchase a CP H1a/b Hudson, CN N2b Consolidation and CP G3 Heavy Pacific (and probably a CP Jubilee) should Rapido make them. Even though all of these locomotives are well before my modeling era, those particular CP locomotives have a very nostalgic "end of steam on the prairies" feel to them and I grew up a few blocks from a park where a CN 2-8-0 was on display. My lack of interest in the Royal Hudson (and I can't explain exactly why it doesn't excite me) should not be taken as a referendum on my interest in subsequent releases. Spending ~$500 on a Royal Hudson I might run once is a bit too much to just act as a vote of confidence in future releases I'm more interested in. |
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Post by canrailfan on Sept 21, 2018 14:05:58 GMT -8
Personally, I do hope Rapido continues with the steam releases because I plan to purchase a CP H1a/b Hudson, CN N2b Consolidation and CP G3 Heavy Pacific (and probably a CP Jubilee) should Rapido make them. Even though all of these locomotives are well before my modeling era, those particular CP locomotives have a very nostalgic "end of steam on the prairies" feel to them and I grew up a few blocks from a park where a CN 2-8-0 was on display. My lack of interest in the Royal Hudson (and I can't explain exactly why it doesn't excite me) should not be taken as a referendum on my interest in subsequent releases. Spending ~$500 on a Royal Hudson I might run once is a bit too much to just act as a vote of confidence in future releases I'm more interested in. Like you, my interest is with several of the other models in the IofCS list. To judge the overall interest in all the other locos in the the series by the sales of the Royal Hudson is likely misleading. Yes, many people have been sitting waiting to see if Rapido could produce a credible steam locomotive model. Now they have produced two so I think that question has been answered with a resounding yes. The Royal Hudson however is not a model everyone wants to have, especially if they don't run mainline passenger trains. The only fair way to gauge the sales potential of the other IofCS models is to open the order books and see what the response is. Let modelers show their interest with orders even if there must be caveats about delivery dates and prices. As it stands now we have no way to register our interest in having these models produced. |
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Post by bdhicks on Sept 21, 2018 14:11:39 GMT -8
I guess rearranging the schedule is good news for me, since CP 2816 is the one I was definitely going to buy. A few of the other ones look tempting and depend on my whims and what my modeling budget looks like when they come out. The 4-4-4 in particular looks neat and would only need a small number of cars.
This is the first I'd heard of Shira Trains. Looks like the D10h is their first project and that seems weird considering I doubt they started until after Rapido had announced their line-up.
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