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Post by Artur on Jan 2, 2019 16:24:46 GMT -8
Hey guys, are the long hood and cab the same between the SD38 and SD38-2.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 2, 2019 16:30:46 GMT -8
No. All the usual Dash 2 vs. non-Dash 2 spotting features apply.
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Post by Christian on Jan 3, 2019 2:01:53 GMT -8
No. All the usual Dash 2 vs. non-Dash 2 spotting features apply. As well as trucks, frame length and most, not all, short hoods. Two different locomotives. |
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Post by Artur on Jan 3, 2019 4:50:14 GMT -8
great thanks for the info. so I want to build a SD38-2 would the Kato model be a good starting point.
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Post by craigz on Jan 3, 2019 5:26:41 GMT -8
great thanks for the info. so I want to build a SD38-2 would the Kato model be a good starting point. Short of major surgery on an SD40-2, the Kato is pretty much the only starting point...I think. |
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Post by Artur on Jan 3, 2019 5:53:34 GMT -8
great thanks for the info. so I want to build a SD38-2 would the Kato model be a good starting point. Short of major surgery on an SD40-2, the Kato is pretty much the only starting point...I think. I was thinking of using the Scaletrains SD40-2 drive and walkways, Kato long hood and a Shapeways 3D printed cab. I wanted to use an Athearn SD38 long hood but since they are different Kato it is. |
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Post by ambluco on Jan 3, 2019 6:32:05 GMT -8
Why not just use the Kato SD38-2?
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Post by Artur on Jan 3, 2019 7:09:41 GMT -8
Why not just use the Kato SD38-2? The version I want build has the SD40-2 tracks also the Scaltrains drive will save me a lot of work, it comes with nicer walkway and proper pilots as well as all the under frame detail for about the same price as Kato.  |
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Post by surlyknuckle on Jan 3, 2019 7:54:06 GMT -8
Word of caution, that's a GMD SD38-2. For the proper frame/steps, etc you may want to use the Bowser SD40-2 chassis. It's similar to the Scale Trains chassis and set up (fiber optics, no wires attach to the shell, similar detail, etc. ) You may also be able to use the Bowser nose and cab since they're also Canadian and have done the correct profiles for CN (*and CP) SDs. Then maybe splice in the Kato SD38-2 long hood and go from there.
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Post by Artur on Jan 3, 2019 8:07:16 GMT -8
Word of caution, that's a GMD SD38-2. For the proper frame/steps, etc you may want to use the Bowser SD40-2 chassis. It's similar to the Scale Trains chassis and set up (fiber optics, no wires attach to the shell, similar detail, etc. ) You may also be able to use the Bowser nose and cab since they're also Canadian and have done the correct profiles for CN (*and CP) SDs. Then maybe splice in the Kato SD38-2 long hood and go from there. Unfortunately the bowser steps are also not correct for this model so ether way I have to change them. I'm looking at Genesis GP40-2WL steps which I have in my parts box and the cab I'm still researching but I'm leaning towards Shapeways.  |
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 4, 2019 3:15:49 GMT -8
SD38 is to SD38-2 just as SD40 is to SD40-2 and GP38 is to GP38-2. In other words, not very similar at all.
20 years ago, most people who "needed" SD38's or SD38-2's were modeling the greater Chicago or Great Lakes area. If you weren't, then you were most likely a Conrail hump yard modeler. I gather that no longer holds true...did or does CN ever run theirs down near the Gulf?
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Post by roadkill on Jan 4, 2019 6:00:40 GMT -8
SD38 is to SD38-2 just as SD40 is to SD40-2 and GP38 is to GP38-2. In other words, not very similar at all. 20 years ago, most people who "needed" SD38's or SD38-2's were modeling the greater Chicago or Great Lakes area. If you weren't, then you were most likely a Conrail hump yard modeler. I gather that no longer holds true...did or does CN ever run theirs down near the Gulf? Or you're a Bessemer & Lake Erie fan like me  ! |
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 4, 2019 6:25:12 GMT -8
SD38 is to SD38-2 just as SD40 is to SD40-2 and GP38 is to GP38-2. In other words, not very similar at all. 20 years ago, most people who "needed" SD38's or SD38-2's were modeling the greater Chicago or Great Lakes area. If you weren't, then you were most likely a Conrail hump yard modeler. I gather that no longer holds true...did or does CN ever run theirs down near the Gulf? Pre-2009, CN only had 4 SD38-2s that they inherited from the Northern Alberta Railway, and AFAIK they never leave the hump yards in Canada. CN also has a small fleet of SD38-2s inherited from the EJ&E, DMIR and B&LE, some of which do occasionally stray from the Midwest. |
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Post by sp8234tim on Jan 4, 2019 7:10:37 GMT -8
Or the lone #39 for McCloud RR in Northern California.
Tim
Hanesworth
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 4, 2019 7:16:03 GMT -8
SD38 is to SD38-2 just as SD40 is to SD40-2 and GP38 is to GP38-2. In other words, not very similar at all. 20 years ago, most people who "needed" SD38's or SD38-2's were modeling the greater Chicago or Great Lakes area. If you weren't, then you were most likely a Conrail hump yard modeler. I gather that no longer holds true...did or does CN ever run theirs down near the Gulf? Or you're a Bessemer & Lake Erie fan like me ! It even has the name of a Great Lake right in its name...  |
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 4, 2019 7:25:28 GMT -8
Or the lone #39 for McCloud RR in Northern California. Tim Hanesworth Ain’t a lot of guys modeling the McCloud though, thus the modifier “most” in my statement. I figured most people who bought the Athearn units did so just because it’s a cool little line with a nice paint scheme. Actually I wouldn’t mind to have one, come to think of it. Bessemer certainly qualifies as greater Great Lakes region, doesn’t it? Lol. The L&N, and later CSX, kept theirs around Birmingham for the most part. More steel production. These things seemed to congregate around steel mills. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 4, 2019 8:10:51 GMT -8
Athearn did three runs of the entire roster of McCloud SD38's. There are none in stock at Athearn today. I was additionally inspired to get mine because BN leased them.
Ed
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 4, 2019 9:32:23 GMT -8
Frisco.
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Post by Artur on Jan 5, 2019 16:16:18 GMT -8
Anyone know what size is the fuel tank on the CN version? Looks like there is a big gap between the front truck and fuel tank.
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Post by tpn51 on Jan 5, 2019 16:48:50 GMT -8
CN- NAR SD38-2 had 3200 gallon tank, instead of a 4000 gallon tank, very much like milw Sd40-2, EMD offered various sizes of fuel tanks, have to look at the protype, from 2400 to 4000. Hope this helps
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