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Post by rapidotrains on Jan 11, 2019 13:41:21 GMT -8
Hi guys, Dan D. painted up yet another sample of our B36-7 locomotive. The tooling is about 98% finished and production begins in the spring. Gareth and Josh have this sample with them in the States and will be filming a video this weekend. We hope to have it on The YouTube next week. Full information can be found here: www.rapidotrains.com/ho-ge-b36-7/I'm not sure what Gareth's connectivity is this weekend so if you have any questions it may be a while before he answers. The rotary beacon really works. Mohan devised a way to get it to "rotate", or at least look like it does. -Jason
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 11, 2019 14:05:15 GMT -8
...That rotary beacon...should not "rotate", as its not a rotary beacon. Its a 4 bulb stratolite, the effect is rather different, but hey, lets see what you came up with. The lens/cover should be orange, not clear as well.
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Post by bnsf971 on Jan 11, 2019 14:26:30 GMT -8
Here’s another example, this is in 1/8 scale:
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Post by carrman on Jan 11, 2019 14:30:02 GMT -8
Buddy of mine makes the circuit and solders 4 surface mount LED's together to do these in HO using the DW beacon.
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Post by catcliffedemon on Jan 11, 2019 14:30:42 GMT -8
Yes, our beacon has four tiny SMDs to correctly replicate the four-light Stratolite. Plus, of course, the clear plastic part will be orange on the production version.
-Rapido Gareth
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 11, 2019 14:36:53 GMT -8
That looks so much better than my kitbashed version! The hood contour looks really good, but the trucks are fabulous!
Now hurry up and finish this one so you can get to work on my BN B30-7A1B project!
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jan 11, 2019 14:50:54 GMT -8
Nice! Like Ryan said, it appears to have good contours, especially on the nose, cab and hood (let's just call it all of your contours!), and it looks like your T handle hood access latches are counter sunk. These are among the issues that make the "Brand A" B23/B30-7 a non-starter for modeling purposes.
But what can I say, those couplers are yucky. I can send you a pair of Sergents for your photos!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 14:51:50 GMT -8
Can the horn casting be fixed? Looks a bit thick to me. Otherwise, looking good so far. I've got 6 of these pups on order.
Greg
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 14:58:31 GMT -8
Beautiful...Notice the handrails...they don't droop or slope in...Oh wait...they're not delrin.
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Post by catcliffedemon on Jan 11, 2019 14:59:10 GMT -8
We’re not happy with the horn either. It’s a lost wax brass casting and we’ll be improving it.
Closer to scale couplers are something that we’re seriously looking at. Won’t happen in time for this production run but hopefully in the future.
-Rapido Gareth
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Post by thunderhawk on Jan 11, 2019 15:05:00 GMT -8
Buddy of mine makes the circuit and solders 4 surface mount LED's together to do these in HO using the DW beacon. Ngineering has the circuit as well but the thought of soldering 4 led's together, that will fit in the DW beacon, makes my head hurt.
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Post by carrman on Jan 11, 2019 15:13:14 GMT -8
Buddy of mine makes the circuit and solders 4 surface mount LED's together to do these in HO using the DW beacon. Ngineering has the circuit as well but the thought of soldering 4 led's together, that will fit in the DW beacon, makes my head hurt. I don't know how Aaron sees to solder them together.
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 11, 2019 15:21:10 GMT -8
Please do the early 90s version of ATSF B36-7 on the next run. I want one, they ran on my district frequently, but this run is the as delivered appearance. Hard to match that yellow if I make the changes myself. Got three CSX and a SBD on reserve, am interested in an NS and CR if budget will allow. I will know by February.
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Post by catcliffedemon on Jan 11, 2019 15:30:19 GMT -8
Please do the early 90s version of ATSF B36-7 on the next run. I want one, they ran on my district frequently, but this run is the as delivered appearance. Hard to match that yellow if I make the changes myself. Got three CSX and a SBD on reserve, am interested in an NS and CR if budget will allow. I will know by February. Later ATSF version will happen, we’ve had so many requests for them. We’ve tooled all the extra parts and the long hood differences as well so it’s just a matter of time. Might not be the next run though as we have some very cool other stuff coming through for that. -Rapido Gareth
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 11, 2019 16:19:59 GMT -8
Please do the early 90s version of ATSF B36-7 on the next run. I want one, they ran on my district frequently, but this run is the as delivered appearance. Hard to match that yellow if I make the changes myself. Got three CSX and a SBD on reserve, am interested in an NS and CR if budget will allow. I will know by February. I have a CSX and CR patch coming my way, really wanted a SBD just for the "wall".. Looks great, guys. Those trucks are sooooooo hot.
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Post by Chad on Jan 11, 2019 17:19:04 GMT -8
I have two on order in ATSF. Can't wait. Looking great.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 11, 2019 17:22:31 GMT -8
I'm not a Santa Fe modeler but wow, very nice!
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jan 11, 2019 18:59:30 GMT -8
We’re not happy with the horn either. It’s a lost wax brass casting and we’ll be improving it. Closer to scale couplers are something that we’re seriously looking at. Won’t happen in time for this production run but hopefully in the future. -Rapido Gareth The pseudo elephant ears astride the radiators look great. Maybe buy two and make a GE B72-7 centercab transfer (C72-7? BB72-7?) Please run about 1000 extra GE cabs. Undec. Windows optional. I'll buy a bunch. ETA: pay up front OK for cabs. Not deposit, paid in full up front (presuming the price ia reasonable of course, maybe quantity discounts?). Make a minimum number to do a run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 19:21:22 GMT -8
Gorgeous!
Like the handrails.
Well, for a photo the Santa Fe yellow looks pretty darn good to me!
I'll be buying multiple second run Santa Fe units for sure. Sound baffles just not my cup of tea.
Don't forget the 2 Kodachrome units in the second run: one with the baffles and one without. Photos in the new Morning Sun SPSF book.
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Post by middledivision on Jan 11, 2019 20:05:29 GMT -8
Thanks a lot. I was hoping to get away with just Conrail units and now you show this beauty!
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 11, 2019 20:27:40 GMT -8
Please do the early 90s version of ATSF B36-7 on the next run. I want one, they ran on my district frequently, but this run is the as delivered appearance. Hard to match that yellow if I make the changes myself. Got three CSX and a SBD on reserve, am interested in an NS and CR if budget will allow. I will know by February. I have a CSX and CR patch coming my way, really wanted a SBD just for the "wall".. Looks great, guys. Those trucks are sooooooo hot. I hear ya, this might be the most exciting announcement I’ve ever seen. I loved watching these units blow past at 60 MPH with pig trains in tow, four exhaust clouds shooting straight up.
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Post by Christian on Jan 12, 2019 1:44:23 GMT -8
These are among the issues that make the "Brand A" B23/B30-7 a non-starter for modeling purposes. Wasn't that one of the Rail Power Product shells from last century? Seems to me that any RPP shells still in Athearns current production are a fair target for a 21st-century locomotive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 3:20:57 GMT -8
I think he was referring to Atlas B23-7/B30-7's. While they are good runners, their tooling is awful.
The Rail Power shell was good for its' time...even though it looked like it was carved from a bar of soap. At least RPP got the radiator width correct...Atlas did not.
The B36-7 has not been produced until now...and I am hopeful to see other B-Boats in the GE dash 7 line. Having seen these things at STL RPM and Trainfest with the painted sample...they are SUPERB models.
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jan 12, 2019 6:01:17 GMT -8
That B36 cab (I think) would fix the Atlas U33B / U36B cab with the messed up windows (plus all other 2-window u-boats). The Hi-tech details GE cab has other issues.
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Post by drolsen on Jan 12, 2019 7:14:44 GMT -8
I hear ya, this might be the most exciting announcement I’ve ever seen. I loved watching these units blow past at 60 MPH with pig trains in tow, four exhaust clouds shooting straight up. I will always think of “Jet” trains with GP40-2s and B36-7s up front, usually two of each. That’s how I remember them form the ‘90s and plan to model them. Gareth, the model is looking fantastic! I can’t wait to see the CSX version. Thanks again for taking on this project. GE diesels don’t get enough love, and these are an important part of the CSX fleet in the ‘90s. Dave
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 12, 2019 7:43:15 GMT -8
Also looking forward to the CSX YN1 “bookends” scheme someday, that’s a scheme that doesn’t get much love with model companies, but looked great on Tote Boats and showed up frequently. www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/photos/B36-7/5835CSX-y.jpgProbably looked better on the B36-7 than anything else it got applied to. Something about the yellow. Less surface area than on an EMD.
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Post by NS4122 on Jan 12, 2019 11:10:49 GMT -8
Look again... Beautiful...Notice the handrails...they don't droop or slope in...Oh wait...they're not delrin.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 21:05:40 GMT -8
Look again... Beautiful...Notice the handrails...they don't droop or slope in...Oh wait...they're not delrin. ?? Did I miss something?
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 12, 2019 21:21:13 GMT -8
Main handrails wire. Everything else delrin-ish (instead of beryllium copper). Ed
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jan 12, 2019 22:36:13 GMT -8
That's keeping with the pre-production photo: www.rapidotrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/b36-7-sp-atsf-800px-rgb.jpgMaybe the wire handrails need 2 solid points of mounting and thus they had to go conventional on the end railings? If so, only way to use wire on the ends might be to make the end rails one-piece (no walkway gap in the middle) and let those who desire snip the middle section out and drop some 40 LPI black chain in the gap. Also might not be enough thickness in the end plate (where the bottom of the end railings attach) to use wire.
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