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Post by mlwlover on Jan 7, 2023 7:09:21 GMT -8
does anybody know of such a thing? there are so many new highly detailed models today and they all have assembly issues with excessive glue and parts glued on crooked. i pretty much have to work on everything i get. years ago i got this debonder and it did not ruin the plastic, but i dont remember the name of it. is there anything that is available today that will remove ca glue?
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 7, 2023 9:24:19 GMT -8
Every debonder I have ever used only barely worked for the CA, but is great at removing paint..
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 7, 2023 9:36:23 GMT -8
Haven't a clue, but I did a search for:
"debonder that doesn't affect plastic"
and got interesting results.
Ed
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Post by mlwlover on Jan 7, 2023 11:25:28 GMT -8
that vms debonder looks promising. i am just looking for something that will remove ca glue from walkway tread where they glue the handrail stanchions onto the deck, athearn genesis does that and i still havnt figured out why? handrail stanchions are a press fit. the rest i can use surgical blades and sand smooth. i cant really sand walkway tread as the texture would be lost.
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Post by stevef45 on Jan 7, 2023 12:00:16 GMT -8
I've never had luck with a debonder not messing up plastic in some way.
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Post by slowfreight on Jan 7, 2023 16:10:17 GMT -8
that vms debonder looks promising. i am just looking for something that will remove ca glue from walkway tread where they glue the handrail stanchions onto the deck, athearn genesis does that and i still havnt figured out why? handrail stanchions are a press fit. the rest i can use surgical blades and sand smooth. i cant really sand walkway tread as the texture would be lost. When I disassembled Genesis handrails, the debonder did a lot of havoc. It worked out in the end that I could straighten and reuse the rails, but I wish I'd tried putting the shell in the freezer first to see if I could break the joints that way.
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Post by Christian on Jan 7, 2023 16:52:35 GMT -8
that vms debonder looks promising. It's fine on raw plastic. But it messes with paint. Then you have two messes to clear up. If you want to reduce a model to a kit, give it a spritz of water then seal in a freezer bag. After a couple of days in the freezer most of the bonds will have broken. Your issue with walkway treads - I'd chip away and later be generous with the weathering.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jan 8, 2023 0:25:07 GMT -8
If you want to reduce a model to a kit, give it a spritz of water then seal in a freezer bag. After a couple of days in the freezer most of the bonds will have broken. Hmm. Why the spritz of water? What does that do? I have previously used the freezer to remove the roof on a ScaleTrains PS 4785 cu ft covered hopper but it still required quite some elbow grease -- which I was of course loathe to use.
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Post by Christian on Jan 8, 2023 2:40:29 GMT -8
Hmm. Why the spritz of water? What does that do? Humm. I never gave it much thought. I picked up the tip from a military modeling list a long, long time ago. My GUESS is that it makes its way into cracks and expands. Having said that, I've rarely used the freeze. I have used it on structures that I'm screwed up and it does work. Mostly. I still have to open that can of elbow grease to finish off. Mostly I pry, saw and scrape.
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Post by Baikal on Jan 8, 2023 9:14:54 GMT -8
Hmm. Why the spritz of water? What does that do? Humm. I never gave it much thought. I picked up the tip from a military modeling list a long, long time ago. My GUESS is that it makes its way into cracks and expands. Having said that, I've rarely used the freeze. I have used it on structures that I'm screwed up and it does work. Mostly. I still have to open that can of elbow grease to finish off. Mostly I pry, saw and scrape.
Water, even a tiny bit, expanding into ice is the primary agent of rock weathering. A few thaw-spray-refreeze cycles would probably loosen parts up even better.
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