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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2023 20:20:10 GMT -8
Atlas' winter catalog was released in conjunction with the show.
The new engine is a rerun of the Dash 8-32BHW/40BW, now with ditch lights where appropriate. Undec $179.95, decorated no ditch lights $189.95, front ditch lights $194.95, front and rear $199.95, add $110 for sound for all versions
Dash 8-40B: CSX Yn2 (Front ditch lights) 3#s, LMX (F DL) 3#s, Southern Pacific 3#s, Pan Am MEC (front and rear ditch lights) 3#s, Providence & Worcester (F&R) 3#s, RJ Corman (F&R) 1#, Western Maryland Scenic (Foobie) (F&R) 1#, undec
Dash 8-32BHW: Amtrak California2#s, Amtrak Ph V 3#s, undec plain and undec gull wing cab
Dash 8-40BW: BNSF rebuilds 3#s, RJ Corman 1#
WMSR 558 is a former NS 8-32B and apparently differs some from the model.
Trinity 17,600 gallon tank car -
Undecorated in ADM, Cargill or Corn Products versions $43.95; decorated $53.95
New paint schemes GATX, Tate & Lyle, Tate & Lyle Stanley; new road numbers ADM with leaf and conspicuity stripes, Cargill (UTCI repaint), GATX "Service Driven", Minnesota Corn, and Ontario Northland. 3#s each except two for the ON cars.
Master 36 foot Wood Reefer
Undec in three versions 43.95, decorated 49.95. Two numbers each for all
New paint schemes Baums Better Beef, Memphis Paccking, St. Louis Refrigerator, Swift (1949 scheme), Wilson Packing Certified Ham; new numbers for Kahn's and Nuckoll's
Master 3 & 6 Bay Cylindrical Hopper
Undec 34.95, decorated 42.95, three numbers each
Cargill Salt green ACFX, CEMEX AAMX, JM Huber ACFX, Saskatchewan Minerals SHPX, Wilkes-Barre Milling Co, Ziegler Chemical UTCX, Kaiser Aluminum, Norfolk & Western NW. Last two are six bay.
When I look these up the numbers on the Cargill cars ACFX 62802/10/14 in my 1/76 ORER it seems to be indicating they're a different, shorter car. 62270-62887 shows 292 cars with a 45'6" length and 3560 cu ft capacity. The Wilkes-Barre Milling cars may not be an exact match, 3500 cu ft cars but showing as 51'8" rather than 54'6". JM Huber and Saskatchewan are probably right, so far haven't hit any pictures.
Other products include a container turned office in Aries, Mobile Mini, Triumph and Wilmot variants $29.95. They have doors, barred windows, lights, A/C units, and signage where appropriate.
Single and double track arch viaduct kits, modular construction with each kit containing two full arches and two piers. Reminds me of an old Vollmer or Kibri or somebody's offering, but all new tooling with concrete, cut stone and rough stone versions. $39.95/$49.95.
New LED street lights in a more modern square head version, single arm, double, four arm, and wall mount versions, black or bronze color and warm or cool white light, HO and N, HO are $11.95-$13.95-$17.95-$20.95.
And it wraps up with re-releases of some BLMA pieces - HO electrical box kit, concrete or rubber grade crossing, K-rail barriers, car stops, wall AC units, portajohns, wrought iron fence kit, various signal boxes and set of 4 people mooning. Prices range from $6.50 to $20.75.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 28, 2023 20:26:17 GMT -8
don't need anything from this announcement, glad to see the trend of Atlas making ditch light versions of things continuing. The Dash 8 standard cabs went without them for way too long.
Now if only they could improve their delivery times.....
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2023 20:40:00 GMT -8
blah blah blah one month shutdown rehash blah blah... (sarcasm)
Be interesting to find out what causes their delays now. Some things seem to come more or less on time, others maybe will come before we die but don't hold your breath. I did read a screencapped series of Reddit posts that claim Chinese companies tend to over-promise and under-deliver but who knows how true that is.
They do say they expect the lights fairly soon, which is possible, last year the lights they announced in the winter catalog about half arrived in April, some more in like August and the rest in September. Makes me think a different factory is making them. Absolute bomb sales-wise though, have not sold a single set. People pick them up, look at them, put them down. Maybe I need to rig up a display with some set up and powered on.
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Post by crblue on Jan 28, 2023 21:00:52 GMT -8
The Dash 8's don't look like they have any tooling changes. Specifically
so I don't think that the CSX 8-40B will get any. Just the Amtrak/Wide-cab models.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 28, 2023 21:20:49 GMT -8
The Dash 8's don't look like they have any tooling changes. Specifically so I don't think that the CSX 8-40B will get any. Just the Amtrak/Wide-cab models. Not sure where you saw that, but.... Page 20 of the Flyer, in the yellow bubble bottom right: "Dash 8 40B models now with ditch lights as approptiate per road name" CSX, LMX, Pan Am, P&W, RJ Corman, and Western Maryland Scenic are also all noted below their illustrations in the flyer as having ditchlights at one or both ends. The only exception is Southern Pacific, which is being depicted pre-ditchlights. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2023 21:32:02 GMT -8
Plus I listed all that out in the first post. Looks like the wide-cabs don't get them for whatever reason.
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Post by nstophat on Jan 29, 2023 6:08:54 GMT -8
<SNIP> WMSR 558 is a former NS 8-32B and apparently differs some from the model. <SNIP> The NS B32-8's, while they looked the same as the B39-8 & B40-8, they were different animals. They had a 12-cylinder engine, as opposed to a 16-cylinder, for which GE only used 6 engine compartment doors instead of 8, making the overall length of the B32-8 some 2'-9" shorter. The Amtrak B32-8W's, because of the HEP equipment rode on the standard frame that the B39& B40's ride on. |
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Post by columbusrrfan on Jan 29, 2023 6:21:39 GMT -8
Wow! A return of the LMX units! That's been a long time. To be accurate, the ditch lights should be on top of the deck. Think that will be a first for Atlas. Their previous ditch light offerings have all been below deck/pilot mount I believe? Hope they get it right. Maybe Rapido does a B30-7AB to pair with them!
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Post by 690 on Jan 29, 2023 6:27:05 GMT -8
Out of curiosity, since Atlas is doing a foobie of the B32-8, have they ever done NS B32-8 foobies?
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Post by arandall70 on Jan 29, 2023 9:11:43 GMT -8
Out of curiosity, since Atlas is doing a foobie of the B32-8, have they ever done NS B32-8 foobies? No, but they did three runs of NS's Ex-Conrail B40-8s in the 4800-series back in 2000, 2001, and 2004, though. I'm a little surprised they never did one of the repainted B40-8s in the "horsehead" scheme. The only scheme ever released was the older speed lettering with dashed frame stripe.  |
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Post by crblue on Jan 29, 2023 19:10:05 GMT -8
The Dash 8's don't look like they have any tooling changes. Specifically so I don't think that the CSX 8-40B will get any. Just the Amtrak/Wide-cab models. Not sure where you saw that, but.... Page 20 of the Flyer, in the yellow bubble bottom right: "Dash 8 40B models now with ditch lights as approptiate per road name" CSX, LMX, Pan Am, P&W, RJ Corman, and Western Maryland Scenic are also all noted below their illustrations in the flyer as having ditchlights at one or both ends. The only exception is Southern Pacific, which is being depicted pre-ditchlights. from this page, click on the CSX loco... shop.atlasrr.com/c-512-h68.aspx -> shop.atlasrr.com/p-66138-ho-dash-8-40b-gold-csx-yn2-5938.aspxIt looks like the catalog contradicts the product page. Knowing Atlas, it's probably a copy error on the website, as the previous run of Dash 8-40B's did not have ditch lights, AFAIK. |
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Post by NS4122 on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:46 GMT -8
I would assume the widecabs will have operating ditch lights since the last release had them. Probably not mentioned in the catalog because it wouldn't be a new feature. Plus I listed all that out in the first post. Looks like the wide-cabs don't get them for whatever reason. |
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Jan 29, 2023 19:21:56 GMT -8
Not sure where you saw that, but.... Page 20 of the Flyer, in the yellow bubble bottom right: "Dash 8 40B models now with ditch lights as approptiate per road name" CSX, LMX, Pan Am, P&W, RJ Corman, and Western Maryland Scenic are also all noted below their illustrations in the flyer as having ditchlights at one or both ends. The only exception is Southern Pacific, which is being depicted pre-ditchlights. from this page, click on the CSX loco... shop.atlasrr.com/c-512-h68.aspx -> shop.atlasrr.com/p-66138-ho-dash-8-40b-gold-csx-yn2-5938.aspxIt looks like the catalog contradicts the product page. Knowing Atlas, it's probably a copy error on the website, as the previous run of Dash 8-40B's did not have ditch lights, AFAIK. I went and looked at the CSX model you suggested, and while the product description says ditch lights for 8-40BW and 8-32BWH only, the picture sure looks like it has ditch lights. There is clearly something on the pilot deck that looks like a ditch light housing. I wish Atlas would clarify/correct this. Ditch lights are a pretty important feature, and it seems like the catalog has some inconsistencies regarding the locomotive model. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 29, 2023 21:37:26 GMT -8
Per their archive pages the wide cab has always had ditch lights and at the same price, so maybe they do have them this run. In fact the "Features" listing says only these models have ditch lights. But I agree, it's a little confusing.
Wish I could find out more info on these Cargill cars.
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 30, 2023 12:45:51 GMT -8
Conflicting info from Atlas, the flyer says the B40-8s will now have ditch lights, but the actual product listing on the website states "B40-8W/B32-PHW Only". Hopefully they can clarify this.
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Post by Tom on Jan 30, 2023 18:44:19 GMT -8
Given that the GP38 and 40 received ditch lights for the most current run, and nearly all of the new roadnames (not renumbered previous ones) chosen for this run would have them. As for the 17,600 gallon corn syrup car, isn't that a rerelease? It's been a while. Glad to see them back.
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Post by cera2254 on Jan 30, 2023 18:46:03 GMT -8
Conflicting info from Atlas, the flyer says the B40-8s will now have ditch lights, but the actual product listing on the website states "B40-8W/B32-PHW Only". Hopefully they can clarify this. The order sheet for them in the catalog stated which ones have have ditch lights and which ones don’t. Looks like only SP units don’t have ditch lights. |
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Post by Frank on Jan 30, 2023 20:51:14 GMT -8
Maybe it is just my imagination, but Atlas has seemed a little skimpy on new announcements and product delivery as of late. Wasn’t there a second half to their U30C delivery from a long while back that had yet to arrive? Some other boxcars in limbo too.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 30, 2023 21:34:51 GMT -8
No, I am not aware of any other half orders still out. The odd one was the extended vision cabooses which came in three batches.
I think they're smart to announce fewer new items and try to catch up on a backloag that dates to 2018 still on a couple of pieces.
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Post by Frank on Jan 31, 2023 5:12:32 GMT -8
The half order was the SCL, Conrail, and Chessie U30C’s, which have yet to arrive. Had a bunch of the SCL versions reserved and they didn’t come with the rest early last year.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 31, 2023 19:31:57 GMT -8
Most recent run of U30C included Chessie, UP, RI, Soo, C&NW, Detroit Edison, and NS 8000. All of them were here and out last year in January.
You may be thinking of the U30C Phase 1 model, which includes D&H, Reading, PRR, Chessie, Conrail, and SCL. Have not shipped yet.
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 8, 2023 1:05:38 GMT -8
Looks like I missed a 6-bay cylindrical roadname; "Collectors Series" BN 443045 in a Bicentennial scheme similar to the locomotives, white, blue underframe, red diagonal stripes. Is this a legit car?
I see why I missed them. They put them in a whole Collector's Series section. Other things in this section include:
B40-8W, Santa Fe yellow bonnet, large lettering; Santa Fe Blue bonnet, same large lettering;
the BN hopper;
and 40' plug door cars in 4th of July and Halloween schemes.
Based on that my guess is it's a foobie of some sort. But it is a correct number for a BN cylindrical 6-bay.
The other odd thing I found trying to track this car was a note that another car in the number series was former GN and originally SAL. Atlas did the SAL cars way way way back and I picked one up cheap, I hadn't looked in my ORER yet on it. (not there, number series to different cars by '76)
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Feb 8, 2023 2:17:37 GMT -8
It's a foobie.
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 8, 2023 11:23:57 GMT -8
I found after posting that per a GN website they bought five Seaboard cars in 1965, apparently SAL didn't need the 6 outlet version. The only reason it matters to me is Atlas did the Seaboard cars like 20 years ago and I happened to pick one up at Springfield thinking it would work on my own layout. So to ebay it's going.
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