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Post by tony on Apr 22, 2024 14:09:37 GMT -8
Does anyone have photos of the Rock Island car. Can we review this one please? My first impression before seeing the artwork is that they would have the aluminum painted doors, but the artwork had BCR doors. Which might be correct, but have not seen photos of these. I was planning to run this car with RI Exactrail Vert-a-paks.
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Post by tony on Apr 22, 2024 14:14:12 GMT -8
Two things on the real Good Times cars that stand out to me - the real ones are not consistent in a.) the extended height white border; b.) the positioning of the car number. I suspect if you don't have photos of both sides of the real car you don't really know, because you can't assume the lettering positions are exact.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Apr 22, 2024 14:42:40 GMT -8
What is the other model they did? I only recall the flat. I hope that GP40 they did is better the well car well car + depressed center flat + these thrall boxes = 3 Ed They also released several containers and loads for their flatcars/well cars. The loads are nice.
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Post by unittrain on Apr 22, 2024 15:40:58 GMT -8
One thing about the paint schemes as delivered there would be a definite font ect, the repaints such as Conrail they probably often used whatever stencils were around Bluford Shops mentioned that Conrail used EL stencils on a few of their 86' boxcar repaints, I don't remember which car it was as it was released years ago but it was one of there pullman standard 86' boxcars. I just finally unboxed some of mine the models are really well done detail wise, I like the more durable door rods and stirrups on these. Hope they do better with the lettering next time.
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Post by mvlandsw on Apr 22, 2024 16:41:41 GMT -8
I never had any trouble with sagging 40 or 50 foot flats. The TTX long flats should actually be humped up slightly in the center. I put a truss rod in the center sill to make my Athearn car do that.
I fastened a piece of Nichrome wire to the weight with a screw just inside of the truck bolster at one end of the car. I ran several amps of current through the wire to heat and stretch it, and then quickly wrapped it around another screw at the opposite end of the car.
When the wire cooled and shrank it provided tension to hold the weight to the proper shape.
Mark
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Post by unittrain on Apr 23, 2024 13:53:29 GMT -8
Just had time to open my Pennsylvania railroad one and it looks pretty good but the keystone logo is way too big đł.
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Post by locochris on May 5, 2024 10:32:22 GMT -8
Anyone try swapping out the couplers on these cars yet?
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Post by unittrain on May 7, 2024 5:00:38 GMT -8
All the sold out skus are now showing in-stock or low stock đ€ looks like this release could go pretty bad for C1M. So anyone wanting these that were sold out nows your chance đ.
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Post by tony on May 7, 2024 7:33:23 GMT -8
Just got an email from them. 2 weeks ago they were about 85% sold off, now everything is back in stock, with some low.
The model design looks very well done, but some people have pointed out flaws in the decoration artwork. So now, we need a check list of which road names have correct lettering and accuracy degree.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 7, 2024 22:40:11 GMT -8
The model design looks very well done, but some people have pointed out flaws in the decoration artwork. So now, we need a check list of which road names have correct lettering and accuracy degree. The artwork has serious flaws. This makes me question the accuracy of the underlying model.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 8, 2024 5:14:25 GMT -8
So. Upcoming GP40's by: Rapido, Class One, ScaleTrains Which to choose? ? Ed
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Post by riogrande on May 8, 2024 8:10:56 GMT -8
So. Upcoming GP40's by: Rapido, Class One, ScaleTrains Which to choose? ? Ed I'm not sure about the Rapido GP40, but the ClassOne and ScaleTrains G40's represent early and late phase GP40's, respectively. For D&RGW ClassOneModelWorks will represent the early GP40 with the small Rio Grande logo (D&RGW Road numbers 3041-3080) For D&RGW the ScaleTrains GP40 represents a late model GP40 just before the GP40-2 was introduced and have the large Rio Grande logo (D&RGW road numbers 3086-3093). -
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Post by packer on May 8, 2024 8:28:17 GMT -8
So. Upcoming GP40's by: Rapido, Class One, ScaleTrains Which to choose? ? Ed Given only one of those companies doesn't have a bad rap on the forums, probably the latter.
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Post by jonklein611 on May 8, 2024 8:39:32 GMT -8
From Rapido's Master Class: Here is a list of many of these options and variations: - A wide variety of air horns, snowplows, bell styles (and placement) were found on GP40s. Checking photos is advisable.
- Perhaps the most obvious variation on GP40s is the presence, or absence, of dynamic brakes and the resultant bulges on the long hood. A few GP40s had their dynamic brakes removed, with the d/b bulgesâ grilles blanked over. And, other times, dynamic brakes were added, as happened when Santa Fe acquired TP&Wâs only
- GP40 (and it became ATSFâs only GP40) and added dynamic brakes to it.
- The earliest GP40s were constructed with the early-style radiator fans (with a âpanâ in the center), and at some point the newer fans, without the âpanâ, were installed. This also applies to dynamic brake fans, should a locomotive be so equipped.
- There were at least three different stepwells used on GP40s:
- The standard version and the version often known as the âswitcherâ version, which has a more vertical step arrangement to allow a crewman to comfortably â and safely â stand on the bottom step when switching cars. Santa Fe and Burlington Northern GP38s featured this option. (So, thatâs two, combined into just one bullet point! Why? Just to confuse youâŠ)
- Canadian Pacificâs GP38s, having been constructed at GMD in Canada, were built with Canadian-style stepwells.
- Fuel tanks were ordered in a variety of sizes, determined by the type of service in which a railroadâs locomotives would be assigned.
- Battery box covers varied somewhat in design, with variations of louvers, bolt patterns and, on B&O/C&O units, slots for enhanced cooling.
- While all GP40 locomotives were delivered with class lights, as time progressed and they were no longer deemed necessary they were removed and replaced by gasketed blanks, plated over or neatly and smoothly filled in.
- As usual, Norfolk & Western, specified high short-hoods (commonly called âhigh-nosesâ) on their GP40s. Along with this option, they also had the control stands installed on the opposite side of the cab in order to operate their GPs in either direction, including long-hood forward.
- As might be expected, there were a few lighting options on GP40s. Most were built with a twin sealed-beam headlight between the cabâs numberboards, but a few were delivered with other variations:
- Cotton Beltâs GP40s featured all the distinctive lighting specified for parent company Southern Pacificâs diesels: Dual Gyralights on the cab, between the numberboards, and a single red Gyralight in the nose, above the horizontally mounted twin sealed-beam headlight.
- Denver & Rio Grande Westernâs GP40s, as with their other hood diesels, were built with a twin-Mars signal lights in the nose. However, some later units may have been delivered with Pyle lights, and as Mars lights failed many were replaced with Pyle lights.
- Western Pacific GP40s 3501-3516 were built with large single-bulb Pyle headlights between the cabâs numberboards and a similar Pyle âbarrelâ light on the rear. This large headlight was later removed and a twin sealed-beam headlight installed on the large area that used to house the single-bulb headlight.
- Western Pacific GP40s 3517-3544 were built with a twin-Pyle signal lights in the nose.
- As visibility and safety requirements changed, ditchlights were added to these locomotives.
- Detroit Toledo & Irontonâs GP38ACs were delivered with gong bells applied to to their low short-hoods (aka ânosesâ).
- Some late production GP40s, such as those purchased by Western Maryland, were constructed with ribbed blower housings, typically a spotting feature on GP40-2s but actually introduced in mid-1971, six months before the Dash 2 line was introduced.
- Disclaimer: Many of the parts were interchangeable, and as individual locomotives were serviced (or rebuilt following minor skirmishes with forces beyond normal wear and tear â that is, accidents) parts were often switched, resulting in a locomotive with mixed early and late fans, or battery box covers were changed, solid bearing trucks could end up with different styles of journal housings, et cetera. And, for additional fun, often the paint on these parts didnât match, either. Of course, changes to rules or other requirements would result in changes, too, such as the removal of class lights in a variety of ways (as mentioned earlier ⊠Donât make me repeat myself!). This is all part of the fun of modeling a fleet of locomotives â the variations, often subtle and other times painfully obvious, over time give each locomotive a personality.
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Post by riogrande on May 8, 2024 8:57:36 GMT -8
Joseph Strapac's book (at home) has some notes about the last phase GP40 - from memory, extended dynamic brakes. On the fireman's side, the DB blister looks similar to the GP40 DB. GP40's manufactured prior to that had a truncated DB blister on the front sides.
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Post by Baikal on May 8, 2024 8:58:21 GMT -8
- Cotton Beltâs GP40s featured all the distinctive lighting specified for parent company Southern Pacificâs diesels: Dual Gyralights on the cab, between the numberboards, and a single red Gyralight in the nose, above the horizontally mounted twin sealed-beam headlight.
In the mid-late 70s these eight units were not uncommon in SoCal. I'd see one once a week or so. They must have been assigned to thru service on the Sunset Route. Same with Cotton Belt's 10 GP30s... and many other SSW 2nd-gen units which were mixed freely with SP power.
Unlike UP's 24 GP35s which were relatively rare in the area.
So if you're modeling SP SoCal in that period you have some justification for one.
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Post by schroed2 on May 8, 2024 23:52:28 GMT -8
The model design looks very well done, but some people have pointed out flaws in the decoration artwork. So now, we need a check list of which road names have correct lettering and accuracy degree. The artwork has serious flaws. This makes me question the accuracy of the underlying model. well, I just received one car in SP decoration and compared it to a Tangent model of a similar prototype. I was NOT impressed by the Class One artwork. also, the car body ist slightly longer (about 1mm) for Class One then for Tangent.
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