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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 14, 2023 23:58:37 GMT -8
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Post by wagnersteve on Oct 15, 2023 0:41:10 GMT -8
October 15, 2023, about 4:38 a.m.
lvrr325, I can't see the photos. Instead, I see nine blue squares, each with a white question mark within it and two probably blue outlines around it.
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Post by schroed2 on Oct 15, 2023 1:11:21 GMT -8
October 15, 2023, about 4:38 a.m. lvrr325, I can't see the photos. Instead, I see nine blue squares, each with a white question mark within it and two probably blue outlines around it. different symbols for me, but also no photos |
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 15, 2023 1:52:40 GMT -8
Been too long since I tried to post photos. If I get time maybe I'll do a side by side with a Proto and a Bachmann
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Post by tom on Oct 15, 2023 2:20:41 GMT -8
Thee wand is to turn on and turn off the lights.
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Post by cera2254 on Oct 15, 2023 2:52:18 GMT -8
I have to admit the end grabs look much better in your photos than the stock photos from rapido.
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Post by wagnersteve on Oct 15, 2023 3:18:34 GMT -8
Oct. 15, 7:17 a.m., EDT
I now see the photos of the models -- thanks very much! They look good to me. I like the idea of comparison photos of Proto 2000 and Bachmann versions.
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Post by Christian on Oct 15, 2023 4:12:26 GMT -8
I think IVRR's photos are very helpful. In the first photograph is Atlas Premier Line O Scale. Note the ladders. MTH O Scale NE caboose has the same sort of ladders. The second photo is the Atlas HO scale Trainman NE caboose. The third photograph shows skinny ladders: Bachmann. The forth photo shows a prototype caboose. Note that I choose one with yellow ladders. Yellow seems to bloom in model photographs. Along with white. Assuming that this restoration is accurate it appears to me that model ladders are bulky after they have been painted yellow, red, or white. Colors which are notorious for needing extra coats. In Ivrr's posted photos what bothers me about the Rapido cabooses are the hoops at the top of the ladders. If I had any interest in buying one of these I would clip off the arches and replace them with wire.     |
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Post by markfj on Oct 15, 2023 4:32:59 GMT -8
Lvrr325, thanks for posting the photos. For whatever reason Rapido can’t seem to get decent photos on their site so I’ve been waiting for better photos to show up on here.
So, in you opinion, is this model worth the $99 MSRP?
Aside from the finer underbody detail, I’m struggling to see the greater value-for-money with this caboose compared to the P2K offering. Also, do you anticipate these cars being good sellers or will they eventually get discounted to move the inventory?
Thanks, Mark
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Post by idgara on Oct 15, 2023 6:42:01 GMT -8
Quick question, why do the other models and prototype have two steps and Rapido has three? Also how does the GN boxcar compare to an InterMountain one?
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Post by cera2254 on Oct 15, 2023 7:18:58 GMT -8
Quick question, why do the other models and prototype have two steps and Rapido has three? Also how does the GN boxcar compare to an InterMountain one? I believe the prototype LV cabooses do/did have three steps. |
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Post by ambluco on Oct 15, 2023 7:27:44 GMT -8
It's true. NE cabooses have two or three steps, depending on the railroad.
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Post by drsvelte on Oct 15, 2023 7:35:21 GMT -8
Three step LV-style caboose steps are available on Shapeways...  |
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Post by protofrtcar on Oct 15, 2023 10:18:04 GMT -8
Quick question, why do the other models and prototype have two steps and Rapido has three? Also how does the GN boxcar compare to an Intermountain.
The Intermountain six panel boxcar is 10' in height, the Rapido six panel boxcar is the much more common 10'6" in height. Both different cars. |
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Post by packer on Oct 15, 2023 10:51:13 GMT -8
Quick question, why do the other models and prototype have two steps and Rapido has three? Also how does the GN boxcar compare to an InterMountain one? The Intermountain and the rapido cars are different groups. |
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Post by cpr4200 on Oct 15, 2023 12:00:08 GMT -8
I think the caboose looks great, except for the end ladders as others have noted. Whether it's a quantum leap above the Proto car is yet to be determined.
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Post by cemr5396 on Oct 15, 2023 12:28:56 GMT -8
the visible seam all the way around the roof on the GN boxcar is kinda cringe worthy.
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Post by pjm20 on Oct 15, 2023 12:45:01 GMT -8
Is the Walthers Mainline release of the LikeLike caboose any different? Anything cleaned up or worse?
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Post by edwardsutorik on Oct 15, 2023 13:19:02 GMT -8
the visible seam all the way around the roof on the GN boxcar is kinda cringe worthy. If all goes well (and how can it not?), the roof is removable, and the "interface" can be cleaned up. Ed |
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 15, 2023 17:56:18 GMT -8
Is the Walthers Mainline release of the LikeLike caboose any different? Anything cleaned up or worse? The old Proto caboose is accurate only for Reading cars. I could buy one of the newer ones for $20-ish used, the last run they made had a list price around $38, a guy makes correct steps for LV for $20/set, decals $10, paint $10-$20, styrene to make the drip rails and rock screens $10 (plus whatever the etch screens cost), there I'm at $70.... People like them well enough I sold three at a show today. Helped being the only one to have them, but it's incredibly rare to sell anything much over $30-ish and I sold these for full list. |
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Post by prr 4467 on Oct 15, 2023 18:11:39 GMT -8
lvrr325--
Your photos are actually very helpful.
I'm a little light on model train funds right now, after Timonium and being bad with RS-11's in the last 2 weeks, but I'd buy the LV caboose. My local dealer is actually getting me a Chessie one. Apparently, the distributor is already sold out of Rapido cabeese, and my Chessie one is coming from somebody else's order that is not in good financial standing with that distributor. My dealer got lucky that I texted him on friday about a Chessie literally minutes before the distributor called to I guess confirm his totals for shipment.
Idk if the distributor can still turn around and place a second order with Rapido to get more, but it seems remarkable to me that they are "sold out" already.
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 15, 2023 19:36:41 GMT -8
My source shows in stock. I'm going to order maybe four more this week.
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Post by cpr4200 on Oct 15, 2023 20:20:30 GMT -8
The Atlas Trainman caboose is not based on the Reading-style car. IIRC it's a Magor (?) C&O or PM car. Lots of foobish paint schemes on that model.
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Post by crblue on Oct 15, 2023 22:08:05 GMT -8
Are the ladders truly that intense, or is the photo adding 10lbs to them?
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Post by cpr4200 on Oct 15, 2023 22:58:33 GMT -8
Are the ladders truly that intense, or is the photo adding 10lbs to them?
I'm generally not a fan of plastic grabs. Looks like the ladder stiles are channel or angle, and the curved railings on the roof look like flat stock, not round.
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 16, 2023 1:50:00 GMT -8
Quick question, why do the other models and prototype have two steps and Rapido has three? Also how does the GN boxcar compare to an InterMountain one? The short answer is because most major owners of these cars built their own (Reading, LV, WM and CNJ), following the same USRA plan modified for steel construction by the Reading in 1924. They made changes as they saw fit for various details. When LL offered the Proto version in the 1990s it was still a one size fits all model, based on the most common features. In addition to steps and ladders there are variations for the end windows, trucks, and CNJ cars omit a side window by the stove entirely that others later plated over. This doesn't even get into the myriad of changes made by secondhand owners, which range from still different end steps to entire new cupolas. |
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Post by middledivision on Oct 16, 2023 8:30:58 GMT -8
The chunky ladders and grabs kill it. Close but no cigar.
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Post by linessouth on Oct 16, 2023 9:54:47 GMT -8
Thanks for the photos! None of my usual online E-tailers seem to have any of the Rapido NE caboose yet, nor Ebay - so nice to see some pics of the real thing.
Rich
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 16, 2023 11:01:26 GMT -8
The chunky ladders and grabs kill it. Close but no cigar. The ladders, particularly, were really thick. PITA to find photos of them as in LV service, looks like Conrail lopped ladders off when roofwalks were removed. Here's R&GV's car: rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5967131 |
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Post by simulatortrain on Oct 16, 2023 13:23:32 GMT -8
Is the Walthers Mainline release of the LikeLike caboose any different? Anything cleaned up or worse? The old Proto caboose is accurate only for Reading cars. They're good for WM too. |
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