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Post by grabirons on Nov 5, 2023 11:41:37 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Nov 5, 2023 12:32:39 GMT -8
After looking at a few of the pictures, I became nauseous and had to give up.
Hope I didn't miss anything.
Ed
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Post by sd40dash2 on Nov 5, 2023 15:54:04 GMT -8
Hope I didn't miss anything. I wouldn't say you missed anything. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Nov 28, 2023 11:13:22 GMT -8
The B&M GP9s will actually bring $40-ish on eBay, if the paint work is decent. The switcher would too if it had handrails. The BL2 and RS2 maybe $20-$30, the MBTA F40 the same but only because it's MBTA, usually those are in the pay someone to take it away category. Those Tri-Ang RDCs I have not looked at in a while, not sure what they bring. But I agree, wildly overpriced, I'd go about $50 tops.
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Post by riogrande on Nov 28, 2023 11:37:32 GMT -8
Okie dokie.
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Post by ed on Nov 30, 2023 6:27:55 GMT -8
At our model railroad club's White Elephant Table, we -might- get $120 for the lot, IF they ran and were complete.
Never pay too much for an acquisition.
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 20, 2023 11:24:29 GMT -8
Honestly, for some of these internet listings I'm not sure if I want to laugh or just vomit. What are some of these people thinking -- is it extreme greed or just ignorance, or a mixture of both? At a train show recently I offered a seller 50 cents for one of the ancient Life-like / Varney train set Twin Bay Hoppers we've all seen 'ad nauseum.' This one in particular happened to be broken (coal load missing) so I declined the counter offer of $1. Maybe I'm a little bad, but I just feel it wasn't worth much. Anyway, just for fun, I looked at the eBay listings for this same toy train car, and I found a couple doozies: (1) Just an empty, yellowed with age Life-like Box (no actual car) for $11.04
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Post by Baikal on Dec 20, 2023 11:36:07 GMT -8
Honestly, for some of these internet listings I'm not sure if I want to laugh or just vomit. What are some of these people thinking -- is it extreme greed or just ignorance, or a mixture of both? At a train show recently I offered a seller 50 cents for one of the ancient Life-like / Varney train set Twin Bay Hoppers we've all seen 'ad nauseum.' This one in particular happened to be broken (coal load missing) so I declined the counter offer of $1. Maybe I'm a little bad, but I just feel it wasn't worth much. Anyway, just for fun, I looked at the eBay listings for this same toy train car, and I found a couple doozies:
(2) An offer for the actual car at $599 (or best offer)
Consider:
A. Maybe he made an honest mistake with the decimal point and is asking just $59.90
B. Reasonable shipping fee.
C. 100% positive ratings.
Surely a seller you can trust.
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 20, 2023 11:55:14 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 20, 2023 18:02:07 GMT -8
(2) An offer for the actual car at $599 (or best offer) Nah. That's not dollars. That's rubles. Ed |
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 20, 2023 18:34:40 GMT -8
whatever currency that Junk is being sold for, still pretty bizarre stuff.
Even if I were a Seller in desperate need for cash, I would feel funny (in a bad way) to post such kinds of listings.
An old crushed cardboard box for sale, really?!
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 22, 2023 19:20:11 GMT -8
is it ok if i hijack my own post & go off a little tangential here, Lol. I started wondering if the railcar subject of my eBay posting (the Union Pacific "Road of the Streamliners" USRA 2 bay hopper in yellow paint) has any real prototype connection, or is it purely a Fantasy Foobie ? As far as I know the U.P. never owned USRA 2 bay hoppers like that, after reading a Railmodel Journal article about USRA hoppers. But I see that Accurail is currently selling a U.P. 3 bay hopper in a similar paint scheme (except it is oxide red in color instead of yellow).
Fantasy Foobie or some basis in reality?
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 22, 2023 20:16:41 GMT -8
OSL 30000-30584 (class F-10-1) are kinda similar. Maybe. Might be others.
I doubt there ever was a UP hopper painted yellow, though.
UP did have the Trix triple hopper, though. And then there's the Atlas "ballast" hopper.
Ed
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 23, 2023 14:26:17 GMT -8
you're an amazing Brain Trust of obscure railcar roster info Ed, thanks! an internet search shows that at one time Tichy had a special edition offering of the OSL hopper and it looked pretty similar to the USRA type. it's funny how sometimes the Fantasy schemes look very nice and credible -- i kinda like the yellow hopper with the script 'Streamliners' logo on it.
Jonas
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Post by wagnersteve on Dec 23, 2023 15:49:29 GMT -8
December 23, 2023, about 6:30 p.m., EST
Yellow strikes me as a truly odd color for an open-top freight car meant to carry coal, particularly soft (bituminous) coal, let alone lignite ("brown coal"). Once processed at a breaker, anthracite is less dirty. Peabody Coal Company in Illinois DID have hoppers that color; those who have seen that line -- later, I think, merged into a larger one -- in person may know what they looked like when in use.
The cars the Delaware & Hudson bought from Bethlehem Steel in the 1960s intended to carry ileminite ore for processing into titanium and titanium dioxide were yellow, but what they carried was very black and they weathered very quickly. The woman I married took a photo of me next to two of the cars at the mine in Tahawus, NY (known as Sanford Lake to D&H crews) in 1971; one was in pristine condition, but the other was VERY much weathered with black. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find that slide for years. She had relatives in Newcomb, the nearest town on a numbered state highway. The laundromat there had big signs warning "NO MINE CLOTHES!" Later, before the mine ceased operations, the D&H painted the cars black. The other product the D&H loaded there, in lesser but still significant quantities, was sintered magnetite, an iron ore separated at the site from the ilmenite; the "sintering" process made it so hot that it tended to ruin the paint on the outside of the very different hopper cars that carried it. Some of those had their side reporting marks and car numbers on separate steel placards attached to the cars; ribs instead of its sheet metal sides themselves in the hope of keeping them legible.
The line to Tahawus was extended from the previous end of the D&H's Adirondack branch during the Second World War because of the importance of titanium alloys in war production. After the war it belonged to NL Industries, originally the National Lead Company, maker of Dutch Boy Paint, which converted from using highly poisonous "white lead" for white paint to titanium dioxide. The stuff went from there to two factories, in northern New Jersey and in or near St. Louis, MO. The work clothes of employees at the beginning of the production lines got a lot of black on them, those of the ones at the end of the line got a lot of white. One supervisor who worked at both ends as needed puzzled the staff at a neighbor diner or "watering hole" that served workers after their shifts because the color of his work clothes kept changing!
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Post by PeeCee on Dec 24, 2023 16:28:09 GMT -8
the Delaware & Hudson seems like a very colorful road for railcars. Besides the black and yellow D&H hoppers you described, did you know there were also Blue open top Hoppers used for crushed glass, gravel, and MOW service? i found this guy's Blog on the D&H that was very interesting:
when you search for key word 'Hopper,' there is info on the prototypes and even a connection to the Life-Like toy train hoppers we were discussing before. If you scroll down on his web page, there are a couple images of blue Twin Bay Hopper #5812, which apparently was the inspiration for the blue Life-Like car (pictured further down as well). The author then used the Life-Like car for upgrading and adding a crushed glass load.
Jonas
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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 26, 2023 18:13:07 GMT -8
I clicked through and it's now $5.99. Not crazy but I sell that crap at shows for $3 a shot, or if I feel generous 4 for $10.
Actual broken cars go in a box and when it's full the whole box is $10 or $20 depending what's in it. Low end stuff cheap, Athearn, MDC or better is more.
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