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Post by cpr4200 on Nov 13, 2023 13:27:04 GMT -8
How does Badge Modelflex like being brushed on? (To added detail parts, mostly) Tru-Color doesn't seem to like it very much, doesn't cover well and adding a second coat seems to remove some of the first coat.
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Post by prr 4467 on Nov 13, 2023 16:16:11 GMT -8
I don't know how readily available, or not, ModelFlex is anymore. The dealers I frequent do not seem to have much of it at all, and when I search on Ebay for touch-up paint, the Tru-Color seems to be most readily available.
If the surface has any oil on it at all, the paint may not adhere well. I usually get better adhesion if I clean any metal parts with a bit of alcohol or some other solvent before trying to paint them. Maybe using primer would be better, but I often don't bother with primer for small paint touch-ups.
I use these paints primarily for touch-up of handrails and grab irons and paint chips on factory finished models. I enjoy how smoothly and thinly the Tru-Color paint goes on, and the finished appearance for me has not been a problem at all. I'd rather it be a thin coat than too thick of a coat that obscures the fine details we all want to see. Yes, sometimes I need to make a second coat, but I have no complaints about the Tru-Color paint. For me, it works fine even with 10/0 brushes. Because it is solvent based, maybe I use just a little bit thicker coat when I brush it on as I know some of it will evaporate.
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Post by ncrc5315 on Nov 13, 2023 16:26:22 GMT -8
It can be brushed on, and if the dealer doesn't have it, it can be ordered without a problem. I really like the finish I get with the modelflex.
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Post by Christian on Nov 14, 2023 2:39:23 GMT -8
Modelflex brushes fine. But it doesn't have much shelf life after being opened. Vallejo makes hundreds of colors. Those not marked "air" brush well. Mission Models paint is currently my go-to for brushing. However, the color choices are not as extensive as other model paints. Pro Acryl (Monument Hobbies) is another paint line that brushes well and is highly regarded by military and gaming model builders. Pro Acryl and Mission Models paint is made in the USA. Tamiya Paint has been around a long time and brushes very, very well. Not so many colors, but really great paints.
Of those paints I mentioned only Modelflex has railroad names printed on the bottle. If you are lucky enough to have a model shop that caters to Military, gaming, or other miniatures you can take a look at the paints and make a match. If you are ordering by mail you probably need to choose a couple of related shades and that runs up the cost. To come up with a TrailerTrain cadmium yellow I ended up with five bottles of paint from three makers. Yet I'm going to have to play with different primers to get what I think is TT yellow!
Finally, although some folks poo-poo them, craft store acrylics are great for brushwork. The paint names can be cute rather than useful!
Another late thought - Badger Stynylrez primer under the Tru-Color might be a solution to coverage and stickiness.
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Post by middledivision on Nov 14, 2023 8:35:52 GMT -8
My go to paint for handrails. Does not chip.
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Post by cpr4200 on Nov 14, 2023 15:47:07 GMT -8
I appreciate the detailed analysis, Christian. I've spent a small fortune on mail ordered Tamiya, Tru-Color, and Vallejo spray cans. So far the only reasonably close matches I've found is Vallejo Bloody Red for CP Action Red and Tamiya Brilliant Orange, which is almost dead on for MEC Harvest Yellow as used on Intermountain U18B's and a little bit darker than Atlas Harvest Yellow when sprayed over white primer. Their Camel Yellow is a little lighter. Maybe shooting it over light gray primer will bring it a little closer, or I could use it to simulate a faded car/engine. I'm also hopeful that one of the many Tru-Color brown/red/maroons will be close to MEC/B&M maroon. You can't really go by the colored caps.
Fortunately I recently found a local shop that carries Tamiya and Revell spray cans. I'm hoping Revell Fire Red comes close to something (like Action Red)! It's kind of surprising that nobody offers a red-orange shade. The reds all look bluish to me. You'd think with all the car modelers that Chevy Engine Red or Chrysler Hemi Red would be available. One of these days I'm going to Tractor Supply to see if any of their farm implement colors might be useful.
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Post by tom on Nov 14, 2023 16:41:13 GMT -8
Modelflex brushes fine. But it doesn't have much shelf life after being opened. My experience with ModelFlex is that it does have a long shelf life. I know I have sprayed Modelflex that were first opened years (decade or more) without any problems. Walthers carries Modelflex and my local hobby shop can order it from them. Most colors are available and if out of stock tend to get restocked.
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Post by loco8107 on Nov 16, 2023 7:35:00 GMT -8
Modelflex brushes fine. But it doesn't have much shelf life after being opened. Vallejo makes hundreds of colors. Those not marked "air" brush well. Mission Models paint is currently my go-to for brushing. However, the color choices are not as extensive as other model paints. Pro Acryl (Monument Hobbies) is another paint line that brushes well and is highly regarded by military and gaming model builders. Pro Acryl and Mission Models paint is made in the USA. Tamiya Paint has been around a long time and brushes very, very well. Not so many colors, but really great paints. Of those paints I mentioned only Modelflex has railroad names printed on the bottle. If you are lucky enough to have a model shop that caters to Military, gaming, or other miniatures you can take a look at the paints and make a match. If you are ordering by mail you probably need to choose a couple of related shades and that runs up the cost. To come up with a TrailerTrain cadmium yellow I ended up with five bottles of paint from three makers. Yet I'm going to have to play with different primers to get what I think is TT yellow! Finally, although some folks poo-poo them, craft store acrylics are great for brushwork. The paint names can be cute rather than useful! Another late thought - Badger Stynylrez primer under the Tru-Color might be a solution to coverage and stickiness. Does Tamiya brush well with larger parts too? (I’m using acrylics) What type of brush is the best to use leaving the least amount of brush marks?
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Post by loco8107 on Nov 16, 2023 10:34:53 GMT -8
How does Badge Modelflex like being brushed on? (To added detail parts, mostly) Tru-Color doesn't seem to like it very much, doesn't cover well and adding a second coat seems to remove some of the first coat. Badger has always brushed well. I used it years ago.
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Post by loco8107 on Nov 17, 2023 16:39:23 GMT -8
And speaking of Badger- I have a bottle of CR blue but want to slightly darken it. Is it ok to use another brand black or darker blue without causing issues? Hard to find those colors now and it may be easier for me anyway.
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