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Post by bigblow69 on Dec 4, 2023 14:40:15 GMT -8
Where is the plated car that was promised? So glad I dont preorder from them.
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Post by wp8thsub on Dec 4, 2023 20:42:07 GMT -8
So glad I dont preorder from them. That's what I think when I see just about any of their products released. |
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Post by riogrande on Dec 5, 2023 5:34:02 GMT -8
That's what I think when I see just about any of their products released. Agreed. Re: SP/SSW Pacific Car & Foundry B-70-69/71/75 class boxcar ... I haven't pre-ordered but am very interested. It looks like they are due Jan 2024. |
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Post by surlyknuckle on Dec 5, 2023 7:19:31 GMT -8
Pretty underwhelming, which is sad. A very unique prototype that falls under the "do it correctly or not at all" category in my opinion. Looks like they aimed dead-center.
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Post by Baikal on Dec 5, 2023 7:41:36 GMT -8
Pretty underwhelming, which is sad. A very unique prototype that falls under the "do it correctly or not at all" category in my opinion. Looks like they aimed dead-center.
There's a thread on TrainOrders. Zero negative comments on the first page (aka free) except missing hazmat placard. Comments look like ads or type 3 True Believers.
"...Now thanks to the boy's at Rapido, you can have a few of these attractive looking cars roaming your own railroad.
Rapido's version is very well done and the artwork matches images I found on-line of the prototype cars. The artwork is crisp and the finest details are readable if you can see stuff that small. Construction of the model was also done well with no parts that were loose, missing, warped or otherwise messed up. The trucks are somewhat unique and are tooled quite well also. The rolling quality of the car is like skating on groomed ice. It rolls with the slightest touch or angle and it rolls smoooth....
Rapido obviously intended us to all run these cars empty as the placard holders are blank. A nice touch would have been to include the appropriate placard decals so the modeler could choose the state of load/emptiness of their car... Again, a fine car from Rapido and I'm glad I was able to snag one.
(emphasis mine)
etc...
LOL "the boys".
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Post by middledivision on Dec 5, 2023 8:14:23 GMT -8
There is only one "boy" at Rapido and he's responsible for dumbing down (cost cutting) on their products.
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 5, 2023 8:45:18 GMT -8
Where is the plated car that was promised? Rapido never said anything about the cars being plated. There are easily enough other things about this car to be disappointed about without making up crap. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Dec 5, 2023 9:25:18 GMT -8
Weathering does hide a multitude of sins. Perhaps that's why the comments on TO were overwhelmingly positive. Here's the image that was shared there:  |
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 5, 2023 10:34:33 GMT -8
Weathering does hide a multitude of sins. Perhaps that's why the comments on TO were overwhelmingly positive. Here's the image that was shared there: Way overdone. Those cars are made of aluminum, they do not rust. And they are washed every time they are used to prevent buildup of the product on the exterior of the car that could be dangerous. Sodium Chlorate is nasty stuff. Other than the Aluminum finish and the painted bits fading over time, those cars have virtually no 'weathering' to speak of, at least in the way that most modelers typically think. I saw a photo the other day of someone who had 'weathered' one with rust spots and streaks, which is completely dumb - cause, you know, aluminum. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 5, 2023 10:39:58 GMT -8
there were a couple prototype shots earlier in the thread but here is another one for good measure. Note how 'not weathered' this almost 20 year old car is.  |
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Post by gevohogger on Dec 5, 2023 10:42:47 GMT -8
The guy was probably thinking those handrail mounting bracket things were steel and would rust.... But I bet they aren't steel though.
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Post by riogrande on Dec 5, 2023 10:45:02 GMT -8
I've read the TO topic on this model and noted it was all positive comments as well.
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Post by lvrr325 on Dec 5, 2023 12:38:24 GMT -8
Slightly O/T but sometimes at shows people want to sell you things. So a guy offered me a Rapido sound E8 for $180. I told him I'd have to pass, I didn't even counter offer or look at it. If it was $50, maybe. I just remembered all the discussion here about them and I know from past experience they are hard to sell.
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Post by drsvelte on Dec 5, 2023 13:29:06 GMT -8
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Post by Christian on Dec 5, 2023 15:09:30 GMT -8
I've read the TO topic on this model and noted it was all positive comments as well. What are the ethics of quoting someone not a member here and then ridiculing him? As well as snagging the photo. Definitely different worlds. |
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Post by 690 on Dec 5, 2023 16:27:23 GMT -8
Hmmm. The TO model's weathering doesn't look so different from these proto photos.    For what it’s worth, none of these are technically the same version of chlorate hopper as the one Rapido is offering. That being said, I’ve seen plenty of the later production ones that Rapido is offering that look quite similar. |
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Post by riogrande on Dec 5, 2023 18:21:19 GMT -8
I've read the TO topic on this model and noted it was all positive comments as well. What are the ethics of quoting someone not a member here and then ridiculing him? As well as snagging the photo. Definitely different worlds. Perhaps you meant that for someone else? I have no skin in this game. |
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Post by drsvelte on Dec 5, 2023 19:18:20 GMT -8
Here's one from the same group. Its not exactly spick 'n span.  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Dec 5, 2023 19:56:47 GMT -8
What are the ethics of quoting someone not a member here and then ridiculing him? Ethics: If you make a visual pronouncement, you may be quoted. I quote people all the time. You may expect to be either applauded or ridiculed. If the former is ethical, the latter should be, too. If you are going to comment on something, it makes sense to show that which you are commenting on. So there's the ARF world and the TO world. If one can only do happy talk on TO, I'll stay in this one. Ed |
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Post by 690 on Dec 5, 2023 22:04:00 GMT -8
Here's one from the same group. Its not exactly spick 'n span. Yes, I already agreed with you on it. The hard part about these cars is that a lot of the weathering that is visible is highly dependent on the lighting and the angle you’re viewing the car from. |
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Post by Baikal on Dec 6, 2023 3:50:58 GMT -8
I've read the TO topic on this model and noted it was all positive comments as well. What are the ethics of quoting someone not a member here and then ridiculing him? As well as snagging the photo. Definitely different worlds.
Who's snaggin' who?
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Post by Christian on Dec 6, 2023 6:19:38 GMT -8
Beautiful photograph that Colloway sent me many, many years ago with a note to not publish or post more than an excerpt from the photograph. |
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Post by Baikal on Dec 6, 2023 7:15:09 GMT -8
Beautiful photograph that Colloway sent me many, many years ago with a note to not publish or post more than an excerpt from the photograph.
Colloway? The photo is in the collection of Warren Calloway.
Now this. Literally LOL.
Keep digging, and keep finger-waving at everyone who's ever posted a photo or quoted someone.
I'm going to keep posting and quoting (like many/most here). |
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Post by Christian on Dec 6, 2023 8:32:04 GMT -8
Beautiful photograph that Colloway sent me many, many years ago with a note to not publish or post more than an excerpt from the photograph. Colloway? The photo is in the collection of Warren Calloway. Now this. Literally LOL. Keep digging, and keep finger-waving at everyone who's ever posted a photo or quoted someone. I'm going to keep posting and quoting (like many/most here). Typo. I plead guilty to having made seven typos in the last fifteen years. Why riogrande? - it was a simple question to an ARF MODERATOR who also has been following this subject on trainorders. Sure, you can find posting mistakes that I've made. And I own up to them. In this case neither were mistakes. |
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Post by Baikal on Dec 6, 2023 8:38:57 GMT -8
Colloway? The photo is in the collection of Warren Calloway. Now this. Literally LOL. Keep digging, and keep finger-waving at everyone who's ever posted a photo or quoted someone. I'm going to keep posting and quoting (like many/most here). Typo. I plead guilty to having made seven typos in the last fifteen years. Why riogrande? - it was a simple question to an ARF MODERATOR who also has been following this subject on trainorders. Sure, you can find posting mistakes that I've made. And I own up to them. In this case neither were mistakes.
Yet riogrande replied "Perhaps you meant that for someone else? I have no skin in this game."
Kepp digging.
No moderator or owner has instructed members not to post photos or quotes.
So who are you to tell people what not to post?
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Post by mdq on Dec 6, 2023 8:55:29 GMT -8
Weathering does hide a multitude of sins. Perhaps that's why the comments on TO were overwhelmingly positive. Here's the image that was shared there: I think the weathering is very good IMHO. |
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Post by delta767332er on Dec 7, 2023 20:42:37 GMT -8
This Rapido model is 13% more expensive than the new Tangent BSC 3350. As much as 42% more expensive if the Tangents are bought in bulk. Look at the pictures starting this thread of the sodium chlorate car and then go look at the pics of the Tangent hopper and you can have yourself some free entertainment for the evening. Or it might make you want to take a long walk off a short pier.
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Post by cemr5396 on Dec 9, 2023 13:07:36 GMT -8
I picked up my cars from the LHS today. While they are very much the typical Rapido model that has plenty of room for improvement, they thankfully look better in person than they do in photos.
One of my early cars with the handrails had the railings damaged in transit, I attempted to straighten them out but the bends always come back after a few minutes. That car will have the railings removed.
The cars are at least presentable enough I won't have feelings of regret every time I see them go by in a train. I only have one preorder remaining at the LHS for Rapido stuff and that is it, I currently have no plans to get any more of their products.
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Dec 9, 2023 14:23:13 GMT -8
This Rapido model is 13% more expensive than the new Tangent BSC 3350. As much as 42% more expensive if the Tangents are bought in bulk. Look at the pictures starting this thread of the sodium chlorate car and then go look at the pics of the Tangent hopper and you can have yourself some free entertainment for the evening. Or it might make you want to take a long walk off a short pier. Only for MSRP though. Rapido street price is around $45. Tangent dealer discounts are less, usually around 2 or 3 dollars below MSRP. I expect these new Tangent cars to be around $49 to $50 at most hobby shops. The Tangent cars are more expensive at the retail level, so the argument of Rapido giving less for a higher price doesn't really stand. Using the MSRP to compare two models is inaccurate because nobody is actually paying that amount. You can rework the argument into one of: "for only a few dollars more, you get a much better car from Tangent." That is still a reasonable opinion since the value of the Tangent car, considering the workmanship and detail quality, is generally worth the money. |
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