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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2024 9:15:03 GMT -8
Atlas has a new catalog out.
HO -
SD35s in Cargill, CSX ghost, Montana Rail Link, Great Lakes Central, Guilford (ST), B&O, Southern Pacific, Southern high hood, N&W high hood (NW black), 189.95 Silent and 294.95 sound. Two numbers on all but Cargill, Guilford (just one each). Notes they have tooled a new low nose for the Southern Pacific with the correct lights. The silent model is also coming sound ready with speakers.
RS11s in NP with BN patch, DW&P bicentennial, Genesee Valley (ex-CV turned GV), FCP, Sonora Baja California red/white, Norfolk & Western (black with roadname in yellow), plus new numbers of Conrail, Lehigh Valley tuscan, L&N grey (Nashville is amusingly mis-spelled on the PDF), and Penn Central. $174.95 silent, 289.95 sound. Two numbers each except DW&P and the two Mexican roads. The same here, silent models will be Sound Ready.
Worth noting Rapido just did the BN patch units. The LV units also duplicate the first run Rapido but will be 7640 and 7643 as renumbered for the PC merger rather than the 8600 series numbers only good for about four years. Also going to note that the list price on the silent model is not much more than cost for a Rapido. They will probably sell in the $140 range.
42' Coil Steel Car, Master line - AOK (ex-CSX, grey), FURX (ex NOKL, dark red), GTW with CN web address, Mitsui Rail Capital (ex CSX, blue/yellow), South Chicago & Indiana Harbor (ex-CSX, faded blue/yellow), CAGY (bright red), and KCS (Belle black/grey with stripes). Still just $42.95. Four numbers on all but the Mitsui and South Chicago & Indiana Harbor just two each.
Thrall Gondola, Master version - ICE (blue/Gondola Connection logo), CEFX (with cover), JTLX, CHTT, NS (ex-CSX), CIGX (ex-BNSF), CSXT (plain black), and CP (black with conspicuity stripes). $39.95, 3 numbers each.
40' standard height container, NYK, OOCL, UASC, K-Line, ONE (pink). 3 pack $49.95, two sets each.
Trainman 2-bay hopper: Southern, GM&O, B&O, Santa Fe, Hallett. Two numbers in single cars plus a three pack of each, $26.95 and $80.85.
Hallett cars have the yellow dot for 1978-up.
If you go to Atlas.com there should be a link at the top of the page.
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Post by hudsonyard on Jan 28, 2024 10:19:51 GMT -8
B&O offsets with a 64 reweigh are certainly welcome. You really cannot model the east without a grip of B&O hoppers.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 28, 2024 10:43:05 GMT -8
Some good stuff in this announcement.
nice to see the Thrall 2743s and the NSC coil cars re run. Several there I can use.
Unfortunately the GTW coil cars are foobies. The real ones are 6 feet longer than the Atlas model. 48 feet IL instead of 42.
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Post by wagnersteve on Jan 28, 2024 10:54:07 GMT -8
1/28/2024, starting 1:51 p.m., EST
Glad to hear about the catalog, but I can't find it on the Atlas Model R.R. Co. website yet.
Can anyone provide a link to it? I'd very much like to see it for myself. We're having snow here in Mass.; I can't go out much if at all this afternoon.
1:55 p.m. I didn't notice the V1 in the subject line of this thread. That one I've seen. I thought Atlas was going to be giving out V2 of its 100th Anniversary Catalog at the Big E show.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2024 11:17:46 GMT -8
I just got the email for it today, so far as I know it's all new. Maybe the Insiders email list gets it a day or two early. But it says Vol 1 all over it. download.atlasrr.com/0124MCPDF/Jan24100thVol1CatalogMSRPOnly.pdfThe last one of those coil cars I had I bought loose at a show for $10 and sold it for $25 an hour later. I plan to pre-order a batch of them. |
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Post by wagnersteve on Jan 28, 2024 11:32:41 GMT -8
1/28/2024, starting 2:30 p.m., EST
lvrr325, thanks for the link, but it is to the Vol. 1 of the 100th Anniversary Catalog that was sent out to those of us on the Atlas Insiders email list in early November 2023, which I already had received. It doesn't list the model announcements mentioned in the first post in this thread, which is what I'm hoping to see for myself.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2024 11:43:32 GMT -8
I literally typed out that link from the PDF I took all that information from. It says Jan 24th right in it. I just checked it, and it works fine. The first few pages are the same as the previous catalog, with the wrapped locomotive and the history section.
Also, the SD35, RS11, coil car and containers are being done in N and HO at the same time.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 28, 2024 11:44:01 GMT -8
1/28/2024, starting 2:30 p.m., EST lvrr325, thanks for the link, but it is to the Vol. 1 of the 100th Anniversary Catalog that was sent out to those of us on the Atlas Insiders email list in early November 2023, which I already had received. It doesn't list the model announcements mentioned in the first post in this thread, which is what I'm hoping to see for myself. I don't know what link you clicked on, but the link in lvrr's last post took be straight to the V1 catalog, which IS in fact where all of the announcements are. It can also be found on the home page of Atlas' website. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 28, 2024 11:57:21 GMT -8
The Atlas BN patched RS-11's (4180 and 4183) come with DB's. The real ones didn't have DB's.
Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 28, 2024 12:04:31 GMT -8
The Atlas BN patched RS-11's (4180 and 4183) come with DB's. The real ones didn't have DB's. Ed Atlas' RS11 is the same shell tooled up around 1990 (updated with separate end grabs), so it's one size fits all. But that's why it lists for $50 less than a Rapido. They probably dropped the ball not altering the tooling to eliminate the DB section and tooling up new DB and non-DB hatches to put on it when Rapido announced their model. The original tool must be paid for a couple times over by now, but even a $10-$15 price increase to cover those costs wouldn't be a deal breaker. |
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Post by unittrain on Jan 28, 2024 12:18:13 GMT -8
I'll take some B&O SD35s. How good is the Atlas SD35? Is it decently accurate?
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Post by SCL618 on Jan 28, 2024 12:43:21 GMT -8
The Atlas red box SD35s are infinitely better than an old yellow box. The tooling of the SD35 is sharp, but dated for its era. It is easily disassembled to allow for adding Cannon and Company parts. The model best represents a SD35 built in 1964 (Phase Ic2) but Atlas also updated the radiator details to allow for some additional roads. The biggest issue with the model versus the later phase III prototypes are the trucks. Sadly, Atlas has never tooled a FC-2L Flexicoil side frame which allows for low brake cylinders.
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Post by lyndenbranch on Jan 28, 2024 12:55:20 GMT -8
"RS11s in NP with BN patch, DW&P bicentennial, Genesee Valley (ex-CV turned GV), FCP, Sonora Baja California red/white, Norfolk & Western (black with roadname in yellow), plus new numbers of Conrail, Lehigh Valley tuscan, L&N grey (Nashville is amusingly mis-spelled on the PDF), and Penn Central. $174.95 silent, 289.95 sound. Two numbers each except DW&P and the two Mexican roads. The same here, silent models will be Sound Ready. Worth noting Rapido just did the BN patch units. The LV units also duplicate the first run Rapido but will be 7640 and 7643 as renumbered for the PC merger rather than the 8600 series numbers only good for about four years. Also going to note that the list price on the silent model is not much more than cost for a Rapido. They will probably sell in the $140 range."
Thanks to the M B Klein going out of business sale, I was able to grab a Rapido NP RS11 WITH SOUND for $150. That was an easy patch, as the patched BN units they had for sale were still in the mid-$200's range.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 28, 2024 12:55:53 GMT -8
I'll take some B&O SD35s. How good is the Atlas SD35? Is it decently accurate? I expect it's pretty good, but I'm not a B&O guy. Here's a good source on phases: www.trainweb.org/jaydeet/sd35.htmYou can compare all that info with the Atlas model. Ed |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Jan 28, 2024 13:46:48 GMT -8
They can tool a new cab for Southern Pacific but can't retool some truck sideframes so modelers can have accurate Southern, B&O, ACL, and N&W models with low mounted brakes on the trucks. Sure you can buy Kato SD40 trucks and a bolster adapter off Shapeways. The costs add up quickly then your left with SD35 trucks that you either sell or let collect dust. Come on it's 2024 Atlas!
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 28, 2024 14:04:31 GMT -8
I suggested fixing the fuel tanks on the last run of the SP&S C-425's, and that didn't fly, either.
Ed
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Post by wagnersteve on Jan 29, 2024 3:36:52 GMT -8
1/29/2024, starting 6:23 a.m., EST
I have finally been able to see and print out the catalog Atlas prepared for the West Springfield show. Obviously it had not had a good proofreading before it was printed and posted on line. It is entitled on its front cover as "Atlas 100th Anniversary Catalog-Volume 1 N & HO Scale -- Jan. 2004" -- thus it's the second Vol. 1! The letter from Atlas Sales Manager Drew Postle on p. 2 is dated January 2023; it should be January 2024. To quote the King in The King and I, "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera".
lvrr325, your summary of the new announcements in your post starting this thread is correct, and so is the link to the catalog in your second post. Thanks very much for both.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 29, 2024 4:35:24 GMT -8
I suggested fixing the fuel tanks on the last run of the SP&S C-425's, and that didn't fly, either. Ed I've been puzzled on that one too. Seems like it would be really simple to tool up a small fuel tank for these. Reading units also had basically just a box under them. Probably a job for someone with a 3D printer. |
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Post by snootie3257 on Jan 29, 2024 5:37:55 GMT -8
I suggested fixing the fuel tanks on the last run of the SP&S C-425's, and that didn't fly, either. Ed I've been puzzled on that one too. Seems like it would be really simple to tool up a small fuel tank for these. Reading units also had basically just a box under them. Probably a job for someone with a 3D printer. Obviously Atlas isn’t up to the task! Steve |
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 29, 2024 7:32:32 GMT -8
Cool to see Atlas giving Michigan modelers some love with the GLC SD35s. Used to be Atlas would make a fair amount of Mitten prototypes, but that was back when Rob Pisani was still involved.
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Post by locochris on Jan 29, 2024 18:33:46 GMT -8
Obviously it had not had a good proofreading before it was printed and posted on line. It is entitled on its front cover as "Atlas 100th Anniversary Catalog-Volume 1 N & HO Scale -- Jan. 2004" -- thus it's the second Vol. 1! The letter from Atlas Sales Manager Drew Postle on p. 2 is dated January 2023; it should be January 2024. To quote the King in The King and I, "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera". Not surprising; this is a company that still writes that their locomotives have 8-pin decoders on new product pages. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 29, 2024 19:01:04 GMT -8
Obviously it had not had a good proofreading before it was printed and posted on line. It is entitled on its front cover as "Atlas 100th Anniversary Catalog-Volume 1 N & HO Scale -- Jan. 2004" -- thus it's the second Vol. 1! The letter from Atlas Sales Manager Drew Postle on p. 2 is dated January 2023; it should be January 2024. To quote the King in The King and I, "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera". Not surprising; this is a company that still writes that their locomotives have 8-pin decoders on new product pages. I expect some of them do still have the 8-pin, I have not added a decoder to one in a while to see what's inside it. |
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Post by locochris on Jan 29, 2024 19:07:13 GMT -8
Not surprising; this is a company that still writes that their locomotives have 8-pin decoders on new product pages. I expect some of them do still have the 8-pin, I have not added a decoder to one in a while to see what's inside it. Every one I've worked on has had 21-pin. U28C, U30C, SD24, etc. All of them said 8-pin on the box too. |
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Post by talltim on Jan 30, 2024 2:20:23 GMT -8
To be fair, my (second run) Scaletrains C39-8 instruction manual says GP30 in it. Strangely, the online PDF version says C39-8
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Post by richardthomasatal on Jan 30, 2024 12:54:18 GMT -8
Atlas locomotives just seem to be behind the times now. At least they use ESU which is forward thinking but the fit and finish is not great. I do like some of their cars though.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 30, 2024 14:46:19 GMT -8
Atlas locomotives just seem to be behind the times now. (.....) the fit and finish is not great. said literally nobody ever. The fact that their assembly is virtually always perfect is about the ONLY thing Atlas locomotives have going for them. The detailing and sound/lighting certainly leave something to be desired most of the time. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 30, 2024 20:34:36 GMT -8
I have more Atlas engines than I can count. Never a problem with them.
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Post by hudsonyard on Jan 30, 2024 22:16:18 GMT -8
Until "better" versions of stuff like the RS-11, C420, SD35 etc etc appear on the market, for certain prototypes you gotta go heavy with Atlas. Theres a lot worse positions to be in in this hobby.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 31, 2024 2:47:42 GMT -8
Technically we did get a "better" RS-11 from Rapido. Except for the jigsaw puzzle shell, the little detail mistakes, the motors that went bad, the higher price point, the wildly off color on the LV units (admittedly not their fault)...
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 31, 2024 7:32:51 GMT -8
Atlas models have long been the highest quality models on the market. The fit and finish is second to none, all of the parts fit together beautifully, the handrails are always straight, the paint and lettering is done well, and they run smooth as silk. Their issue is simply that while the industry has continued to move forward, for the most part Atlas has not. Much like Kato, Atlas models were state of the art 20 years ago, but that was then. As other manufacturers started getting into road-specific and sometimes road number-specific details, Atlas did not. Most of their tooling, while beautifully done for the time they were announced, has begun to show its age. People now expect things like ditch lights, correct horn placement, see-through grills etc, which is something most Atlas models do not have. They have started doing some of those things in recent years, but not to the extent that Athearn, Scaletrains, Walthers Proto and the others have.
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