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Post by sd40dash2 on Feb 5, 2024 9:14:21 GMT -8
Looks like MT is applying their N scale weather printing process to HO scale for $49.95 US. Looks pretty darn good! HO BN/ex-Frisco Weathered Rd#419321 MSRP $49.95 (PAY 25% DEPOSIT NOW) - Available 5/2024 HO UP/ex-C&NW weathered Rd# 175505 Weathered MSRP $49.95 (PAY 25% DEPOSIT NOW) - Available 7/2024 HO NS/ex-Southern Weathered Rd# 91849 MSRP $49.95 (PAY 25% DEPOSIT NOW) - Available 6/2024 www.micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=206
 Sorry for the link, but I was unable to embed this photo in thread.
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Post by locochris on Feb 5, 2024 10:26:10 GMT -8
It would be cool to see MT make their own HO cars instead of using Accurail, but maybe there's some deal they have with Kadee that doesn't allow them to?
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Post by gevohogger on Feb 5, 2024 11:00:03 GMT -8
Am I really seeing Accurail kits for $50?
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Feb 5, 2024 11:22:34 GMT -8
Am I really seeing Accurail kits for $50? Yeah, I think that's my main issue with the models as well. 50 bucks for a model with plastic wheels seems a bit steep. It also looks like the slope sheets and floor inside the end cage are unweathered. In the photos it doesn't look too bad, but I wonder if they are trying to hide it with the angle they took the picture. Will the model look weird with perfectly clean ends while the sides are heavily weathered? The first time I saw the announcement, I though they were RTR. Looks like they are still in kit form, so you still have to build it. It's cool that MT is doing printed weathering, but I don't think the value-add is there, especially at the price they are charging. I know that MT makes a lot of stuff in the US, so the prices are a bit higher, but I can think of a ton of models that I would rather have for 50 dollars. |
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Post by drsvelte on Feb 5, 2024 11:35:22 GMT -8
Spotless hatches and clean ends and ladders. Trying to match the weathering on the sides is a trick I don't think I'll be trying.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 5, 2024 12:21:05 GMT -8
almost entering the price territory of high quality stuff like Tangent, for an Accurail kit with printed on weathering (with only partial coverage at that)?
yeah, no thanks.
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Post by hudsonyard on Feb 5, 2024 21:30:22 GMT -8
I feel like these will sell, not for me, era wise or other. Stuff like this isn't marketed to the type of modelers on this forum, but the guy at the club who railfans via youtube and spends big $$$ on modern RTR will buy these.
I've always thought that things like weathering are and individual expression of the modeler and it's hard to replicate something realistic when it's mass produced.
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Post by bnsf971 on Feb 6, 2024 1:58:34 GMT -8
maybe there's some deal they have with Kadee that doesn't allow them to? Yes, that deal dates to when Keith and Dale split the company. Keith got HOn3 and below, Dale got HO and higher. |
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Post by gevohogger on Feb 6, 2024 5:22:30 GMT -8
Stuff like this isn't marketed to the type of modelers on this forum, but the guy at the club who railfans via youtube and spends big $$$ on modern RTR will buy these. And collectors. Every train show and swap meet has plenty of those guys with their notebooks looking for such-and-such a car number, produced back in 2007 or whatever, just to fill a gap in their collection. Never to turn a wheel on any layout. |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 6, 2024 7:36:26 GMT -8
Stuff like this isn't marketed to the type of modelers on this forum, but the guy at the club who railfans via youtube and spends big $$$ on modern RTR will buy these. And collectors. Every train show and swap meet has plenty of those guys with their notebooks looking for such-and-such a car number, produced back in 2007 or whatever, just to fill a gap in their collection. Never to turn a wheel on any layout. At the last 3 Timonium shows there was a vendor selling a HUGE estate of RTR Intermountain/Red Caboose models that was stored in a warehouse. There was a table must have been 40 or 50' long covered with banker boxes filled with RTR new in the box models. |
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Post by gevohogger on Feb 6, 2024 9:13:37 GMT -8
And collectors. Every train show and swap meet has plenty of those guys with their notebooks looking for such-and-such a car number, produced back in 2007 or whatever, just to fill a gap in their collection. Never to turn a wheel on any layout. At the last 3 Timonium shows there was a vendor selling a HUGE estate of RTR Intermountain/Red Caboose models that was stored in a warehouse. There was a table must have been 40 or 50' long covered with banker boxes filled with RTR new in the box models. Imagine if it was all Kadee or Micro-Trains stuff. The collectors would have come in from around the world! |
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Post by grabirons on Feb 6, 2024 10:44:47 GMT -8
Wow, I had no idea that collectors have such huge stashes! I used to just throw my boxes out, then realized oh I better keep those! So half my collection has boxes and some don't. I have two of these plastic drawer bins that is full of about a hundred freight cars, mostly covered hoppers. I have a few vintage athearn cars from my childhood, with original price stamps from the local craft hobby store. Anyway, you should keep your boxes for better resale value.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Feb 6, 2024 11:12:21 GMT -8
... with original price stamps from the local craft hobby store. Anyway, keep your boxes for better resale value. 100% agreed on keeping the boxes. Buyers want boxes and none of us are in this forever. Sooner or later, even in our living years we may need or want to sell stuff. Better models come out all the time and people ebay and otherwise sell the older material. Or some people change eras and focus.
This is esp true with the modern RTR detailed stuff that needs quality, specialized packing to be able to survive all that shipping. It is very difficult to recreate something like that on your own when details are involved.
And no, vendors do not need to scrape, gouge or otherwise obscure the old store price tags from decades ago. In fact I like seeing the original price tags instead of a sticky mess, torn box art or ugly black marker where the old price once was.
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Post by snootie3257 on Feb 6, 2024 11:27:50 GMT -8
[/div] And no, vendors do not need to scrape, gouge or otherwise obscure the old store price tags from decades ago. In fact I like seeing the original price tags instead of a sticky mess, torn box art or ugly black marker where the old price once was.
[/quote] I agree. When I see this stuff done I always wonder to myself “who do you think you’re fooling?” Steve |
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Post by jeoffreythecat on Feb 6, 2024 13:42:44 GMT -8
And collectors. Every train show and swap meet has plenty of those guys with their notebooks looking for such-and-such a car number, produced back in 2007 or whatever, just to fill a gap in their collection. Never to turn a wheel on any layout. At the last 3 Timonium shows there was a vendor selling a HUGE estate of RTR Intermountain/Red Caboose models that was stored in a warehouse. There was a table must have been 40 or 50' long covered with banker boxes filled with RTR new in the box models. I think that vendor is the owners/organizers of the show. |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 6, 2024 13:52:44 GMT -8
At the last 3 Timonium shows there was a vendor selling a HUGE estate of RTR Intermountain/Red Caboose models that was stored in a warehouse. There was a table must have been 40 or 50' long covered with banker boxes filled with RTR new in the box models. I think that vendor is the owners/organizers of the show. No idea. May be true. Besides what was on the table, they said there was still more back in the warehouse. $15 a pop was a pretty good deal! The PFE steel side ice reefers were pretty picked over but the wood sided PFE reefers were still pretty abundant. You have to spend a lot of time reading the box ends. Last time I picked up some SP 53' flat cars and some SP sugar beet gons. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 6, 2024 14:01:05 GMT -8
I hate when they put new price tags on vintage stuff without any care for what it is. It was nice to score an Aurora Joe's Diner kit in the original box for $5 in November - I flipped it for I think $100 - but they put a new sticker on it that peeled some of the box when I scraped it off. On the other hand if they'd known what they had, it wouldn't have been $5, so...
You do kind of have to scrape old prices, or line them out, at shows though. Never underestimate how dumb the buying public is. I have had people try to buy things at the 1975 price. You and I know better, but there's plenty who have absolutely no idea what they're even looking at, or they just want to try to get something for nothing. I do try to stick my tags on clear plastic windows, or I will use a post-it instead of a price tag, to try to save vintage packages. Unless it's something like a Plasticville kit you can't give away.
But the old price labels are fun to look at. I still run into stuff with Two Guys tags on it. I should have made a list of all the places I found old stickers for - old hobby shops, department stores, hardware stores, just about you name it they sold trains at some point.
These cars are a high price point, but they'd be good club runner cars or for train show modular layouts. Eye catching and realistic with minimal work, can be handled without risk of breaking fine details, etc. Would be interesting to know how they print these up.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Feb 6, 2024 16:20:22 GMT -8
Imagine if it was all Kadee or Micro-Trains stuff. The collectors would have come in from around the world! Esp if there were Erie cabooses and Arrowhead boxes in that lot!  |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Sept 27, 2024 10:27:50 GMT -8
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Post by drsvelte on Sept 27, 2024 11:05:39 GMT -8
Wow! I don't know. $59.95  and you have to finesse the weathering on the ends somehow. |
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Post by cpr4200 on Sept 27, 2024 11:13:22 GMT -8
The N&W ex-VGN twin hopper is pretty cool! I might spring for that.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Sept 27, 2024 13:49:40 GMT -8
Wow! I don't know. $59.95 and you have to finesse the weathering on the ends somehow. The site shows $49.95US MSRP so street price will be less, any shows near you?
Actually in the photos I found from old ebay auctions the factory did give the ends and underframe a basic spray, they're not just mint sprues. Looks like it would be relatively simple to do any desired finish-up weathering since most of the car is done.
They might be onto something here.
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Post by grabirons on Sept 28, 2024 17:55:04 GMT -8
The railbox has an weathered interior as well to model a car with open doors. Scroll through all the photos. Interior walls are busted up, scrape marks, rust ect, galvanized cieling effect, rusting interior doors. Honestly, for what you get, the upgrade to metal wheels and your favorite couplers are only a few dollars more and worth it. I like this, this is very interesting.
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