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Post by gevohogger on Mar 1, 2024 12:29:12 GMT -8
To all the "master members" who thought it was funny to act like condescending jerks with your smart ass replies it seems many people are beginning to confirm that scale coat will be back. Most of the other forums are reporting the same thing. And to the person who insinuated I had a stake in this, or just starting rumor....well ill take the high road. COO Norfolk Terminal Modern Narrow Gauge Your what hurts? |
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 1, 2024 13:09:02 GMT -8
To all the "master members" who thought it was funny to act like condescending jerks with your smart ass replies it seems many people are beginning to confirm that scale coat will be back. Most of the other forums are reporting the same thing. And to the person who insinuated I had a stake in this, or just starting rumor....well ill take the high road. COO Norfolk Terminal Modern Narrow Gauge Listen- Take a big chill. We’ve all heard our share of RR rumors so much we believe it when we see it - and honestly rumors happen more often than they should. I would say most of us are glad it’s probably coming back somehow. Even the shop that broke the news is still being very tight lipped about it when asked simple questions by people. There’s always a few smart replies with threads but none were directed to you. Calling attention to things don’t help you either. Let things be. It seems you posted to say “hey I told you all I was right anyway!”. We all appreciate the news but please let it play out and hope for the best. This forum is overall tame and well policed and let’s keep it that way. |
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Post by unittrain on Mar 1, 2024 18:08:24 GMT -8
If it's back that's one thing but hopefully the quality will be the same too. I hope it's true.
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Post by Baikal on Mar 1, 2024 19:33:12 GMT -8
It seems Walthers has purchased the scalecoat paint line and is taking orders. Good news for all who loved the paint. Ted COO Norfolk Terminal Modern Narrow Gauge
Walthers purchase of Scalecoat confirmed on Trainorders. Suposedly they bought an abandoned brewery for conversion to paint production.
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 1, 2024 22:05:23 GMT -8
It seems Walthers has purchased the scalecoat paint line and is taking orders. Good news for all who loved the paint. Ted COO Norfolk Terminal Modern Narrow Gauge
Walthers purchase of Scalecoat confirmed on Trainorders. Suposedly they bought an abandoned brewery for conversion to paint production.
You didn’t read that entire thread. They did NOT buy them but are now taking pre-orders. There was no mention of anyone buying an abandoned brewery either. Great news anyway. |
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 2, 2024 5:19:21 GMT -8
Abandoned brewery. LOL!
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Mar 2, 2024 6:13:43 GMT -8
With the mild winter we’ve had, could the first of April been moved up a couple months….?  |
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Post by gevohogger on Mar 2, 2024 8:28:37 GMT -8
It's quite possible. There's probably dozens of closed microbreweries/restaurants in my state. Might not take more than a change in zoning to make them suitable for light manufacturing. Not applicable to properties in California without CARB approval beforehand. |
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 2, 2024 12:07:00 GMT -8
Cool! So things do seem to be looking up. But if so, I do hope that the high quality formulas will continue to be used.
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 2, 2024 12:56:06 GMT -8
It's quite possible. There's probably dozens of closed microbreweries/restaurants in my state. Might not take more than a change in zoning to make them suitable for light manufacturing. Not applicable to properties in California without CARB approval beforehand. Apparently the operation will be in California. What little that has been said by the train shop that broke the news is there is a new owner (but not them) and it will be made not too far from the shop. Something is up but what. |
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 2, 2024 15:23:15 GMT -8
California?
No offense to the residents there but..........a possible "BUMMER!" I may be mistaken, but from my understanding "Cali" has the MOST stringent regulations / rules regarding paint refinishing chemicals in the USA. I know their regs apply to the use and disposal of said chemicals, but I'm wondering if they may also apply to the manufacturing of non-VOC compliant refinishing products as well? Waterbased and Waterborne refinishing products are the standard norm in that state.
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Post by Dear Leader on Mar 3, 2024 15:00:26 GMT -8
California?
No offense to the residents there but..........a possible "BUMMER!" I may be mistaken, but from my understanding "Cali" has the MOST stringent regulations / rules regarding paint refinishing chemicals in the USA. I know their regs apply to the use and disposal of said chemicals, but I'm wondering if they may also apply to the manufacturing of non-VOC compliant refinishing products as well? Waterbased and Waterborne refinishing products are the standard norm in that state. Start a new paint business in California, what could go wrong? |
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 4, 2024 7:06:44 GMT -8
California?
No offense to the residents there but..........a possible "BUMMER!" I may be mistaken, but from my understanding "Cali" has the MOST stringent regulations / rules regarding paint refinishing chemicals in the USA. I know their regs apply to the use and disposal of said chemicals, but I'm wondering if they may also apply to the manufacturing of non-VOC compliant refinishing products as well? Waterbased and Waterborne refinishing products are the standard norm in that state. It would be nice if they could make a acrylic SC2 spray can that’s still a gloss finish. Can definitely be done in this day and age. |
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Post by Donnell Wells on Mar 4, 2024 8:48:04 GMT -8
California?
No offense to the residents there but..........a possible "BUMMER!" I may be mistaken, but from my understanding "Cali" has the MOST stringent regulations / rules regarding paint refinishing chemicals in the USA. I know their regs apply to the use and disposal of said chemicals, but I'm wondering if they may also apply to the manufacturing of non-VOC compliant refinishing products as well? Waterbased and Waterborne refinishing products are the standard norm in that state. None taken. And I share your sentiment! When we lost access to MEK at Lowes and Home Depot several years ago, I was like, "What is going on?!" I had to go to Las Vegas to get two and a half gallons (my forever stash) which is more than enough for what I do, probably way more than enough, but at least I have it! We can't even get mineral spirits from Lowes or Home Depot locally! CARB is not our friend, as much as they would like to have us think... As for paint, I am over hobby brands. I buy whatever works. Tamiya, Scalecoat II, Testors Enamels (1/4oz bottles), Master's Touch Artist's Acrylics (Hobby Lobby brand), various craft acrylics, Krylon Fusion spray paints, it makes no difference to me anymore. I am NOT paying $9/oz for paint! That ain't happening!!! |
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 4, 2024 13:50:38 GMT -8
California?
No offense to the residents there but..........a possible "BUMMER!" I may be mistaken, but from my understanding "Cali" has the MOST stringent regulations / rules regarding paint refinishing chemicals in the USA. I know their regs apply to the use and disposal of said chemicals, but I'm wondering if they may also apply to the manufacturing of non-VOC compliant refinishing products as well? Waterbased and Waterborne refinishing products are the standard norm in that state. None taken. And I share your sentiment! When we lost access to MEK at Lowes and Home Depot several years ago, I was like, "What is going on?!" I had to go to Las Vegas to get two and a half gallons (my forever stash) which is more than enough for what I do, probably way more than enough, but at least I have it! We can't even get mineral spirits from Lowes or Home Depot locally! CARB is not our friend, as much as they would like to have us think... As for paint, I am over hobby brands. I buy whatever works. Tamiya, Scalecoat II, Testors Enamels (1/4oz bottles), Master's Touch Artist's Acrylics (Hobby Lobby brand), various craft acrylics, Krylon Fusion spray paints, it makes no difference to me anymore. I am NOT paying $9/oz for paint! That ain't happening!!! I agree 1000% about paint costs but it’s all about the shade of color I’m looking for especially since I use the rattle cans and fwiw, SC is the only one I’ve used that sprays like an air brush. |
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 4, 2024 14:45:35 GMT -8
I'd be really happy to find a good spray can of CP Action Red and B&M blue, for starters.
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Post by Donnell Wells on Mar 4, 2024 23:22:12 GMT -8
None taken. And I share your sentiment! When we lost access to MEK at Lowes and Home Depot several years ago, I was like, "What is going on?!" I had to go to Las Vegas to get two and a half gallons (my forever stash) which is more than enough for what I do, probably way more than enough, but at least I have it! We can't even get mineral spirits from Lowes or Home Depot locally! CARB is not our friend, as much as they would like to have us think... As for paint, I am over hobby brands. I buy whatever works. Tamiya, Scalecoat II, Testors Enamels (1/4oz bottles), Master's Touch Artist's Acrylics (Hobby Lobby brand), various craft acrylics, Krylon Fusion spray paints, it makes no difference to me anymore. I am NOT paying $9/oz for paint! That ain't happening!!! I agree 1000% about paint costs but it’s all about the shade of color I’m looking for especially since I use the rattle cans and fwiw, SC is the only one I’ve used that sprays like an air brush. I decant spray paint for airbrushing. There are numerous tutorials that cover how to do this on YouTube. And once the paint is out of the can, you can mix colors and make your own shades of whatever colors you want! I hit the jackpot and found Krylon Farm and Implement Gloss John Deere Green Spray Paint in a 12oz. can for $6.98. This color is extremely close to Burlington Northern's Cascade green, and perfect for my needs. The price is much more palatable, at just $0.58/oz, and depending on how much it needs to be thinned, 12 ounces of paint can potentially be stretched pretty far, possibly doubled! This makes it even more economical! In fact, using the "straw" method to decant means you can keep the remaining paint in the original can for storage indefinitely! Donnell |
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 5, 2024 8:03:16 GMT -8
^^^ Good to know. Good for katy, too? Their units were said to be "John Deere green." I've been meaning to see if any of their reds are close to Action Red. ~ Walt
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Post by Donnell Wells on Mar 5, 2024 9:28:34 GMT -8
^^^ Good to know. Good for katy, too? Their units were said to be "John Deere green." I've been meaning to see if any of their reds are close to Action Red. ~ Walt Yes, good for Katy. Just know that this paint is likely "hot", so it will require a primer. Either that, or test before committing. Donnell |
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 5, 2024 15:33:10 GMT -8
Scalecoat has officially announced this past Saturday on their FB page that they are back under new ownership in Florida. No date set yet for when they will be shipping and that more details will be coming soon. They also said to spread the word. They are in the process of setting up shop and production and to have some patience. Also of good news is the paint formula will not change at all.
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Post by Baikal on Mar 5, 2024 16:00:12 GMT -8
Scalecoat has officially announced this past Saturday on their FB page that they are back under new ownership in Florida. No date set yet for when they will be shipping and that more details will be coming soon. They also said to spread the word. They are in the process of setting up shop and production and to have some patience. Also of good news is the paint formula will not change at all.
Florida, where small business is welcomed. The mirror-image of California.
Just needs In-N-Out.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 5, 2024 18:37:00 GMT -8
Florida?? Fantastico! 
Thanks for the positive update.
Scalecoat has officially announced this past Saturday on their FB page that they are back under new ownership in Florida. No date set yet for when they will be shipping and that more details will be coming soon. They also said to spread the word. They are in the process of setting up shop and production and to have some patience. Also of good news is the paint formula will not change at all.
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Post by nwp0ncrr on Mar 6, 2024 8:49:44 GMT -8
Scalecoat has officially announced this past Saturday on their FB page that they are back under new ownership in Florida. No date set yet for when they will be shipping and that more details will be coming soon. They also said to spread the word. They are in the process of setting up shop and production and to have some patience. Also of good news is the paint formula will not change at all.
Florida, where small business is welcomed. The mirror-image of California.
Just needs In-N-Out.
Florida....Classy if you are rich, and trashy if you are poor. |
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Post by Baikal on Mar 6, 2024 9:31:16 GMT -8
Florida, where small business is welcomed. The mirror-image of California.
Just needs In-N-Out.
Florida....Classy if you are rich, and trashy if you are poor.
Trash you say? What $410K gets you in SoCal:
Realtor sez "One of the most affordable properties in the area!" True that.
You can get a new 2BR 2BA in a beautiful safe retirement golf retirement community in FL for $275K.
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 6, 2024 9:31:29 GMT -8
Florida....Classy if you are rich, and trashy if you are poor. Pretty much applies anywhere you go. |
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 8, 2024 3:08:15 GMT -8
Overall, glad to know that SC products will continue to be produced. Can anyone post a link with the specific or official information regarding Scalecoat's return? Below is part of the last batch of Scale Coat II paints that I purchased before Minute Man Models shut down. Yes, it's more than enough for basecoating 30 or more passenger cars, but my concern is also for modelers that are interested (and currently) metalizing their equipment with Alclad, Spaz Stix, Alsa, and other quality metalizers. If fewer steps are involved, they're more inclined to give-it-a-go ;-) . Instead of applying a primer (gray or black) coat, then following up with a high gloss clear coat to form the foundation for the metalizer, Scale Coat II provides that in one step. A hard, and (if thinned & applied patiently) smooth very high gloss finish. Just spoiled me rotten!   |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Mar 8, 2024 9:30:11 GMT -8
Antonio have you used Vallejo Gloss Black Primer? I have some I’ve used once as a test but didn’t use on the project I’d considered using it for. It seemed like it could work well IF you were patient with it.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 9, 2024 14:03:59 GMT -8
Hello Karl, I confess to not having tried Vallejo Lacquers as a basecoat foundation for metalizers. However, according to feedback, they are very good products and will work under alcohol and lacquer based metalizers. My only issue is that the small 10ML bottles (1/3 ounce) forces a modeler to buy multiple bottles to do several HO 85ft passenger cars. I am biased towards Scale Coat due to my using it for so long, its quality, and its availability in 1oz and 2oz bottles. However, based on your post, I'll purchase a bottle of Vallejo on my next visit to the hobby shop. A tidbit: Respectfully, for Budd, Pullman Standard, and ACF passenger equipment, you'll get a more "prototype appearance" if you use gray gloss primers / colors instead of black. Black bases yield a color tone that, imho, are too dark for our fluted passenger cars. You can select the gray based on the stainless steel appearance that you;re targeting.   Antonio have you used Vallejo Gloss Black Primer? I have some I’ve used once as a test but didn’t use on the project I’d considered using it for. It seemed like it could work well IF you were patient with it. |
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Post by antoniofp45 on Mar 13, 2024 13:44:17 GMT -8
Forgot to mention that my projects include repainting 2 P2K E7 shells into Seaboard Coast Line's black w/yellow striping "Bumble Bee" pant scheme. Scale Coat S1010 Black yields a very nice "jet black" appearance. One unit will have a "recently out of the shop" appearance and the 2nd one with light fading. I've downloaded dozens of prototype photos and several of the E's looked good right up until and past Amtrak's formation. (photo credit: Mr. Slides)  |
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