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Post by ambluco on Mar 13, 2024 16:39:50 GMT -8
What engine is pretty much everywhere in the 2020s in North America that is also available as an HO model? Thanks.
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Post by cemr5396 on Mar 13, 2024 16:57:59 GMT -8
GE ES44AC/ES44DC GEVO. Hands down, easy.
Not only has the GEVO passed the SD40-2 as the most produced locomotive ever, it obliterated that record. When all is said and done, they will probably double it. There were 4000 ish 40-2s built, IIRC and something like 7000+ GEVOs built to date with production still ongoing.
EDIT: actually, they are well over TEN thousand...
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Post by ambluco on Mar 13, 2024 16:59:37 GMT -8
Thank you. Modern is not my specialty.
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Post by jonklein611 on Mar 14, 2024 6:10:31 GMT -8
GEVO or SD70ACE
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Post by cemr5396 on Mar 14, 2024 8:35:36 GMT -8
The SD70ACe is nowhere near the second most common locomotive in North America. There were around 2000 built, vs 2800 (ish) AC4400s and 3500 (ish) Dash 9s. There might still be more SD40-2s in existence than SD70ACes. Just for a little more perspective, BNSF owns more GEVO variations by themselves than the entire number of SD70ACes built. |
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Post by jonklein611 on Mar 14, 2024 10:15:27 GMT -8
The SD70ACe is nowhere near the second most common locomotive in North America. There were around 2000 built, vs 2800 (ish) AC4400s and 3500 (ish) Dash 9s. There might still be more SD40-2s in existence than SD70ACes. Just for a little more perspective, BNSF owns more GEVO variations by themselves than the entire number of SD70ACes built. Fair point. Some nuance to the answer as well as it varies drastically by region and owner. I also mis-read the question as what engines are "newish" as of the 2020's. Those are the two big players in the industry. Most of the stuff I see in the NE is either a GEVO or a 70 something, with some sprinkling of older EMD / GE AC stuff. |
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Post by lyndenbranch on Mar 16, 2024 14:37:50 GMT -8
GE ES44AC/ES44DC GEVO. Hands down, easy. Not only has the GEVO passed the SD40-2 as the most produced locomotive ever, it obliterated that record. When all is said and done, they will probably double it. There were 4000 ish 40-2s built, IIRC and something like 7000+ GEVOs built to date with production still ongoing. EDIT: actually, they are well over TEN thousand... As a railfan from way back (when new SD40-2's roamed the land, and its seemed like they'd ever stop!), this really saddens me.
Actually, it keeps me indoors working on models of the 1970s. Now I can honor the "blandness" of the Dash-2 by getting all nostalgic about it.
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 16, 2024 14:42:09 GMT -8
Amazing the GEVO’s outdid the SD40-2’s and with a lot less class 1 railroads around today.
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Post by trainboyy on Mar 16, 2024 16:28:15 GMT -8
Gensets were a thing for a while. If you want to model a deadline, find a few cheap Atlas gensets, maybe weather one to look burnt..
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Post by sd80mac on Mar 17, 2024 13:56:32 GMT -8
Class One railroading has become quite sterile. You have all of the major players fielding large fleets of GEs (C44-9W, AC4400CW, ES44AC/DC, ET44AC) with a token force of modern EMDs (SD70 variants and or rebuilds, and or SD70ACe/SD70M-2). Local and yard jobs are handled by GP38s, GP40s, SD40-2s, and SD60s, all in variously rebuilt forms. There are some oddballs like the dozen SD50s left on CSX, the SD40E fleet on NS, or BNSF's various rebuilt GP30s and GP35s and 4 axle Dash 8s, but that's about it. If you want any kind of real variety anymore, you need to check out a short line.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 17, 2024 14:16:26 GMT -8
Or model 1975, on the BN.
Ed
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Post by NS4122 on Mar 17, 2024 15:25:33 GMT -8
And now Dash 9s are even starting to dwindle as they are sold off or rebuilt with AC traction. Class One railroading has become quite sterile. You have all of the major players fielding large fleets of GEs (C44-9W, AC4400CW, ES44AC/DC, ET44AC) with a token force of modern EMDs (SD70 variants and or rebuilds, and or SD70ACe/SD70M-2). Local and yard jobs are handled by GP38s, GP40s, SD40-2s, and SD60s, all in variously rebuilt forms. There are some oddballs like the dozen SD50s left on CSX, the SD40E fleet on NS, or BNSF's various rebuilt GP30s and GP35s and 4 axle Dash 8s, but that's about it. If you want any kind of real variety anymore, you need to check out a short line. |
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Post by Baikal on Mar 17, 2024 15:47:31 GMT -8
Class One railroading has become quite sterile. You have all of the major players fielding large fleets of GEs (C44-9W, AC4400CW, ES44AC/DC, ET44AC) with a token force of modern EMDs (SD70 variants and or rebuilds, and or SD70ACe/SD70M-2). Local and yard jobs are handled by GP38s, GP40s, SD40-2s, and SD60s, all in variously rebuilt forms. There are some oddballs like the dozen SD50s left on CSX, the SD40E fleet on NS, or BNSF's various rebuilt GP30s and GP35s and 4 axle Dash 8s, but that's about it. If you want any kind of real variety anymore, you need to check out a short line.
The BNSF main into the Los Angeles area is almost all GEVOs, has been for at least a decade. Any variety is due to other railroad's pool/run-thru power, which is still almost all GEVO. Ususally four on the point, may or may not have DPUs.
And the trains are mostly double stack containers. Lots of trains, but boring.
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Post by lvrr325 on Mar 17, 2024 23:41:26 GMT -8
That's part of what led my focus to the LV in the 70s. An almost absurd amount of variety that includes almost every type of locomotive operating for half a dozen major roads. I live within view of a railroad line and I hardly look out anymore when I hear them go by because there's not much variety. Mostly GEs on the through trains and a local usually has 38s or 40s on it.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Mar 21, 2024 6:30:17 GMT -8
And the passenger power all look like painted worms.
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Post by cemr5396 on Mar 21, 2024 6:53:42 GMT -8
And the passenger power all look like painted worms. I absolutely loathe the Chargers, and it seems like they are inevitably going to take over at some point. Makes me glad to be somewhere thata F40s still rule on the passenger trains, and will for the forseeable future. |
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Post by gevohogger on Mar 21, 2024 6:58:24 GMT -8
Gensets were a thing for a while. If you want to model a deadline, find a few cheap Atlas gensets, maybe weather one to look burnt.. When Stewart/Bowser introduced all those big Alcos some years ago, I was sort of half-seriously considering modelling the Collinwood dead line, circa 1983 or so. |
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Post by wagnersteve on Mar 21, 2024 8:25:07 GMT -8
3/21/2024, starting 12:17 p.m., EDT
I must confess to envying those of you who live close to active railroad tracks. I can hear air horns on trains from my house, but the closest active track, with only commuter trains regularly using it, is at least a 25-minute walk from my house.
I still like watching almost any trains in the real world, but it's good that the prototypes that the locos and cars I'm most interested in modeling aren't as long as many now in use there. The most recent EMD loco I thought was really quite attractive was the GP30. I do have some model E units as well as Alco PAs. Plus some passenger cars that measure up to 85 or so scale feet, and I haven't yet purged all of my old 85-foot flats and hi-cube boxcars. I'm hoping to take another ride on Downeaster trains between Mass. and Brunswick, Me. before the hours of daylight start to lessen again.
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Post by prr 4467 on Mar 21, 2024 9:13:22 GMT -8
I know the "most correct answer" is Gevos.
However, I have tried but never really have been able to be excited about modern wide cabs. I was a student at Penn State Altoona from 1988 to 1989, and I have many memories of the ex-EL SD45-2 helper units there on the mountain. For those and other reasons, I guess I'll always be stuck back then.
And I would argue that rebuilt SD40-2's or -3's, rebuilt from vintage SD45-2 and other units, are still common enough out there today. BNSF has some carbodies that are now 51 years old, still in active service and not stored, based upon photos at rrpicturearchives.net. Plus they still have rebuilt former GP30 and GP35 units that are even older.
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Post by michaele on Mar 21, 2024 9:39:32 GMT -8
Class One railroading has become quite sterile. You have all of the major players fielding large fleets of GEs (C44-9W, AC4400CW, ES44AC/DC, ET44AC) with a token force of modern EMDs (SD70 variants and or rebuilds, and or SD70ACe/SD70M-2). Local and yard jobs are handled by GP38s, GP40s, SD40-2s, and SD60s, all in variously rebuilt forms. There are some oddballs like the dozen SD50s left on CSX, the SD40E fleet on NS, or BNSF's various rebuilt GP30s and GP35s and 4 axle Dash 8s, but that's about it. If you want any kind of real variety anymore, you need to check out a short line. Or Europe. The variety on the Continent is nearly limitless. |
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Post by loco8107 on Mar 21, 2024 13:55:48 GMT -8
Class One railroading has become quite sterile. You have all of the major players fielding large fleets of GEs (C44-9W, AC4400CW, ES44AC/DC, ET44AC) with a token force of modern EMDs (SD70 variants and or rebuilds, and or SD70ACe/SD70M-2). Local and yard jobs are handled by GP38s, GP40s, SD40-2s, and SD60s, all in variously rebuilt forms. There are some oddballs like the dozen SD50s left on CSX, the SD40E fleet on NS, or BNSF's various rebuilt GP30s and GP35s and 4 axle Dash 8s, but that's about it. If you want any kind of real variety anymore, you need to check out a short line. As someone who railfanned a lot between 2000-2017, that first sentence is so true in the years since. So glad I got the pics I did when I did. I feel beyond sorry for the young fans today. |
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