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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 9, 2024 11:48:39 GMT -8
I got this as a dealer email so no link but I am sure it's front and center on their website - BLI has announced they're doing the Pennsylvania RR B6sb 0-6-0.
Versions include postwar appearance, pre-war appearance, futura lettering and unlettered in both sound ($499.99 MSRP) or non-sound ($399.99) with three numbers for sound postwar and two numbers for all others. All have the 60S66A slope back tender.
I also can get an exclusive PRSL version which is sound only for the same $499.99 list. Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines is spelled out in two lines on the tender, one number 6095.
MAP policy applies so street prices will be no less than $399.99/$319.99.
Pre-order cutoff is June 7th, engines are expected early 2025.
My only question is how many guys will spend this much for a switcher? But until now the only way to get a decent model of these has been brass.
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Post by crblue on Apr 9, 2024 15:00:33 GMT -8
With a $400 street price for the sound version, I predict that they will sell a lot.
There's more people with a small switching layout than there are with room for a big boy.
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Post by hudsonyard on Apr 9, 2024 15:05:53 GMT -8
I'm not a Pennsy nor a steam guy, but if these are as nice and as heavy as the H10's are they will be worth it. Non sound is a nice option considering BLIs voodoo witch doctor ass decoders.
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 9, 2024 15:23:54 GMT -8
It has been several weeks since they announced the B-6.
I can say that the latest BLI steam locos run much better than the early Paragon 3 locos did. All of ours do have the BLI decoders in them.
After having not had any steam locos at all for a few years, I have purchased several Paragon 4 steamers and they are fantastic. The diecast PRR E-6 with illuminated marker lights is really nice despite the lights being slightly larger than scale so that they can actually function. It's a really wonderful loco. I also have the UP early version brass hybrid challenger and a PRR I1sa 2-10-0, and my son has a new N&W Y-6B. They are all better than previous offerings (I did own 2 Y6B's years ago). I think all of these have keep alive now.
Amperage draw of these steam locos with the smoke units off, in dcc, is actually less than several Atlas Master Series or Athearn Genesis diesels that I have, so these decoders are not sucking much current at all. I was pleasantly surprised at how well they run at low speed steps (moving smoothly at 1 of 28).
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Post by simulatortrain on Apr 9, 2024 16:19:05 GMT -8
I'd love to get one, but the oldest version they're doing is a couple decades too new. For some locomotives I understand them not backdating to as-built or nearly so, but these changed relatively little over time. So I'll get a brass one if I do, cheaper when I still need to backdate it either way.
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 9, 2024 17:06:40 GMT -8
Maybe the exclusive PRSL engine was the reason for them pushing it. I'm still waiting on the exclusive SD45.
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Post by talltim on Apr 10, 2024 2:34:36 GMT -8
I'd love to get one, but the oldest version they're doing is a couple decades too new. For some locomotives I understand them not backdating to as-built or nearly so, but these changed relatively little over time. So I'll get a brass one if I do, cheaper when I still need to backdate it either way. I'm in the same boat. A B6 would do me |
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Post by acszoli on Apr 11, 2024 1:35:07 GMT -8
I would love to have a 0-6-0 in UP colors (black:) But I don't think they will modify it correctly even if they manage to have UP version. That is why I just bought a brass 0-6-0  I will convert it to DCC and I don't have to wait for the BLI  |
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Post by wagnersteve on Apr 11, 2024 6:30:50 GMT -8
April 11, 2024
starting 10:29 a.m., EDT
I'm curious as to whether the PRR used any of this type of 0-6-0 in the Wilkes-Barre, PA, area where before Penn Central was formed it interchanged a lot of freight with the Delaware & Hudson?
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Post by sd80mac on Apr 11, 2024 8:38:05 GMT -8
PRR used B6s EVERYWHERE. Any PRR modeler can get away with them.
I'm more excited about the Van Sweringen Berkshires BLI commented on Facebook that they are currently designing.
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Post by acszoli on Apr 11, 2024 8:52:21 GMT -8
PRR used B6s EVERYWHERE. Any PRR modeler can get away with them. I'm more excited about the Van Sweringen Berkshires BLI commented on Facebook that they are currently designing. Where Where did you see that? |
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Post by cellis231 on Apr 11, 2024 9:40:53 GMT -8
The BLI Berkshire comment was also in their Monthly March Bulletin email.
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 11, 2024 10:31:27 GMT -8
I would love to have a 0-6-0 in UP colors (black:) But I don't think they will modify it correctly even if they manage to have UP version. That is why I just bought a brass 0-6-0 I will convert it to DCC and I don't have to wait for the BLI BLI makes both generic version locos like the USRA mikado and pacific, and their generic 2-8-0 that is "similar to" those of many roads, and then they also have correct road specific PRR 2-8-0's but have not run those recently. Respectfully, there is absolutely NO way on earth that BLI could modify a PRR B-6 0-6-0 to look anything remotely close to a UP or most any other 0-6-0. The boiler is completely different and a dead giveaway that it is a PRR loco all the way. Almost all PRR steam locos, from say 1910 onward through and including the I-1s 2-10-0 and the M-1A/B 4-8-2, were constructed with that Belpaire (square topped) boiler which is more difficult to design and construct but offers much better heating and steaming than conventional round boilers, so much so that they rebuilt their 5 year old USRA 2-10-2's with brand new boilers because PRR said the USRA locos steamed poorly. Other US railroads known to have used Belpaire fireboxes include Great Northern, and the Pittsburgh and West Virginia 2-6-6-4. Union Pacific actually did use Belpaire fireboxes on 14 steam locos built prior to 1899, but NOT after 1899. One can accessorize steam loco boilers to give a different "look" for one's particular railroad, but those Pennsy Belpaire boilers just are not easily hidden from view, whether you love them or hate them--they always stick out. Reading, CNJ, Lehigh Valley and perhaps a few others who burned mostly anthracite coal also have different boilers that can look a bit odd and cannot be hidden beneath other details: The Wooten design. |
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Post by acszoli on Apr 11, 2024 11:13:33 GMT -8
"Respectfully, there is absolutely NO way on earth that BLI could modify a PRR B-6 0-6-0 to look anything remotely close to a UP or most any other 0-6-0. The boiler is completely different and a dead giveaway that it is a PRR loco all the way." Of course! I remember for the Consolidation in UP color. Nothing is even similar, but they put the UP logo on it, and voila  ) |
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 11, 2024 13:41:40 GMT -8
The brass UP switcher looks absolutely fantastic. Hope you enjoy it!
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 12, 2024 15:32:37 GMT -8
If somebody needs a cheap brass UP 0-6-0 I have one. Not an Overland, I forget what it is, United PFM maybe, blue box. I had intended to clean up some corrosion on it and flip it and never did.
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Post by acszoli on Apr 12, 2024 23:14:40 GMT -8
If somebody needs a cheap brass UP 0-6-0 I have one. Not an Overland, I forget what it is, United PFM maybe, blue box. I had intended to clean up some corrosion on it and flip it and never did. Can you send me a PM? Or mail? info@woodize.com |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Apr 14, 2024 2:48:29 GMT -8
I'd love to get one (preferably an undec or unlettered black if BLI does them) and paint it up as a foobie Milwaukee Road unit to represent this unit that appeared in my modelling area -- but about three decades earlier than the era I'm primarily interested in.  1940s Lake St, Minneapolis MN by Colin 't Hart, on Flickr |
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Post by pjm20 on Apr 14, 2024 11:12:37 GMT -8
Well, if anyone is wondering what they are going to do with a PRR boiler and tender after ordering a B6sb for the mechanism, I can offer you a solution.
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 14, 2024 12:36:29 GMT -8
PRR used B6s EVERYWHERE. Any PRR modeler can get away with them. I'm more excited about the Van Sweringen Berkshires BLI commented on Facebook that they are currently designing. Where Where did you see that? Help me understand: BLI is doing brass hybrid Boston & Maine, SP (ex-B&M) and ATSF (ex-B&M) Berkshires, due later this year. That is a far different animal than the Van Sweringen Berkshire. Where did they say anything about a Van Sweringen Berkshire? I'm searching online and have not found it. |
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Post by pjm20 on Apr 14, 2024 15:43:52 GMT -8
Help me understand: BLI is doing brass hybrid Boston & Maine, SP (ex-B&M) and ATSF (ex-B&M) Berkshires, due later this year. That is a far different animal than the Van Sweringen Berkshire. Where did they say anything about a Van Sweringen Berkshire? I'm searching online and have not found it. In their newsletter they often state what they are researching and what it is going to be announced, not anywhere on their website from what I remember. They've essentially announced what N Scale steam they are going to produce for the next few years in the last announcement. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 14, 2024 19:40:27 GMT -8
I'd love to get one (preferably an undec or unlettered black if BLI does them) and paint it up as a foobie Milwaukee Road unit to represent this unit that appeared in my modelling area -- but about three decades earlier than the era I'm primarily interested in. They are doing "unlettered DGLE" with light colored (silver? artwork is a set of drawings) smokebox and red cab top. |
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Post by sd80mac on Apr 15, 2024 13:08:58 GMT -8
Help me understand: BLI is doing brass hybrid Boston & Maine, SP (ex-B&M) and ATSF (ex-B&M) Berkshires, due later this year. That is a far different animal than the Van Sweringen Berkshire. Where did they say anything about a Van Sweringen Berkshire? I'm searching online and have not found it. It was mentioned on social media, they haven't formally announced it yet. |
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 16, 2024 8:38:44 GMT -8
My issue is I already get too much junk email every day from various train dealers and companies, and I barely participate at all on social media. I do have a Facebook account but only so that I can make the occasional comment to Athearn or BLI or others...not sure I need any more manufacturer newsletters in my email.
I could really like the diecast B6sb and would consider one.
However, after just losing out on Ebay on a PRR Paragon 3 J-1, last night, I asked my local dealer to order me a BLI brass hybrid PRR Q2 instead, and assuming he can still get me one, that is literally most of my hobby money for the rest of 2024 and maybe into 2025 all in just one item.
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 16, 2024 17:43:13 GMT -8
My issue is I already get too much junk email every day from various train dealers and companies, and I barely participate at all on social media. I do have a Facebook account but only so that I can make the occasional comment to Athearn or BLI or others...not sure I need any more manufacturer newsletters in my email. I could really like the diecast B6sb and would consider one. However, after just losing out on Ebay on a PRR Paragon 3 J-1, last night, I asked my local dealer to order me a BLI brass hybrid PRR Q2 instead, and assuming he can still get me one, that is literally most of my hobby money for the rest of 2024 and maybe into 2025 all in just one item. These are not expected until early 2025 |
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Post by prr 4467 on Apr 16, 2024 21:08:10 GMT -8
Yes, I know a bit farther out, but I realistically might still be paying on a Q2 layaway at that time. No offense to anyone who loves the small steam is intended at all; just given the choice I'd simply prefer a brass hybrid to another diecast steamer, as much as I do love the E6.
I put an awful lot of miles on a Mantua kit 0-6-0 steamer my Dad painted up as "Strasburg 31" as a kid, that had the Seuthe smoke unit in it and actually smoked very well for back then...but have since liked the bigger stuff.
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Post by ernestbaron on Apr 18, 2024 8:36:48 GMT -8
I'd love to get one, but the oldest version they're doing is a couple decades too new. For some locomotives I understand them not backdating to as-built or nearly so, but these changed relatively little over time. So I'll get a brass one if I do, cheaper when I still need to backdate it either way. Some outside the box thinking could be putting your Brass or Bowser early-era B6s boiler on the BLI chassis so you have the details you want, plus DCC/Sound equipped guts to go with it. |
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