mdq
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Post by mdq on Apr 27, 2024 14:51:05 GMT -8
I know I am early... ( Maybe I should change the title to Saturday Photo Fun... oh well !  ) An old Walthers covered hopper kit from years ago and..  .... an old Athearn BB that I weathered at about the same time and since sold.  |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Apr 27, 2024 14:59:50 GMT -8
Wonderful, esp the BN truck weathering.
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Post by michaele on Apr 28, 2024 4:31:45 GMT -8
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Post by Christian on Apr 28, 2024 5:13:03 GMT -8
New rebuilt Abyg4 and Byg4 wagons from Brawa. European trains are a mystery to me. Am I right in viewing this car as half first class and half second class? The Midwesterner-of-a-certain-age in me rankles at "class" since to me, it means race and economics. Like the Jim Crow passenger equipment that US railroads ALL ran through the 1950s. I didn't intend to turn a nice model into a political rant, but I guess I just did. |
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Post by nstophat on Apr 28, 2024 5:34:19 GMT -8
New rebuilt Abyg4 and Byg4 wagons from Brawa. European trains are a mystery to me. Am I right in viewing this car as half first class and half second class? The Midwesterner-of-a-certain-age in me rankles at "class" since to me, it means race and economics. Like the Jim Crow passenger equipment that US railroads ALL ran through the 1950s. I didn't intend to turn a nice model into a political rant, but I guess I just did. Think of it as 1st Class, Business Class, Business Coach and Economy on an airliner |
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Post by schroed2 on Apr 28, 2024 5:39:26 GMT -8
European trains are a mystery to me. Am I right in viewing this car as half first class and half second class? The Midwesterner-of-a-certain-age in me rankles at "class" since to me, it means race and economics. Like the Jim Crow passenger equipment that US railroads ALL ran through the 1950s. I didn't intend to turn a nice model into a political rant, but I guess I just did. Think of it as 1st Class, Business Class, Business Coach and Economy on an airliner or certain parts of US passenger trains that were only for the use of pullman passengers |
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Post by Baikal on Apr 28, 2024 5:51:41 GMT -8
New rebuilt Abyg4 and Byg4 wagons from Brawa. European trains are a mystery to me. Am I right in viewing this car as half first class and half second class? The Midwesterner-of-a-certain-age in me rankles at "class" since to me, it means race and economics. Like the Jim Crow passenger equipment that US railroads ALL ran through the 1950s. I didn't intend to turn a nice model into a political rant, but I guess I just did.
What an odd thing to say.
Amtrak has business class (They fear the word "1st". As if the word fools people). Airlines have first class. Just pay more. Does that also upset you?
Have you ever been out of your state? Trains with multiple classes are the norm everywhere but the US.
Would you have all passenger trains & aircraft have just a single type of seating and service? How would that be better?
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Post by michaele on Apr 28, 2024 6:01:28 GMT -8
Yes. an 'AB' wagon is divided into 1st and 2nd Class seating and amenities. An 'A' wagon is all 1st class, and a 'B' wagon is all 2nd Class.
Wagon designations in German speaking Europe are very complex and have also changed over time, and also depends upon the railroad in a few cases such as the narrow gauge Swiss railroads.
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Post by alexandrianick on Apr 28, 2024 6:17:17 GMT -8
European trains are a mystery to me. Am I right in viewing this car as half first class and half second class? The Midwesterner-of-a-certain-age in me rankles at "class" since to me, it means race and economics. Like the Jim Crow passenger equipment that US railroads ALL ran through the 1950s. I didn't intend to turn a nice model into a political rant, but I guess I just did.
What an odd thing to say.
Amtrak has business class (They fear the word "1st". As if the word fools people). Airlines have first class. Just pay more. Does that also upset you?
Have you ever been out of your state? Trains with multiple classes are the norm everywhere but the US.
Would you have all passenger trains & aircraft habe just a single type of seating and service? How would that be better?
They call it business class instead of first class because no one wants to be called second class, not a fear of "first class." They do, explicitly, refer to first class as such on trains that do have first class accommodations. |
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Post by TBird1958 on Apr 28, 2024 8:42:49 GMT -8
What's on my desk this morning........   |
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Post by nsc39d8 on Apr 28, 2024 10:15:16 GMT -8
Have been working on the details of a NS C39-8E and B32-8 since they both require the same work I did them together. C39-8E prototype: www.rr-fallenflags.org/ns/ns8669dsa.jpgB32-8 prototype: www.rr-fallenflags.org/ns/ns3550abn.jpgMain work was on the fuel and air tanks plus the piping. The C39E:    The air tanks are printed from our own member Fr8kar(Thanks for these Ryan) Piping is a mixture of brass and stainless with most of the details from Details West GE air tank kit. NS had the drop step lowered on these to match EMD units that sat lower at the walkway level. I reused some Atlas parts as well. The B32-8:    The B32-8 is shorter than the B40-8 by several feet. The basis is the Atlas B40-8 and the frame has been but and patched back together. There are three keyways milled into the fuel tank area that hold the frame together, all the cracks you see will be covered by the shell and walkway. |
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Post by dti406 on Apr 28, 2024 12:29:09 GMT -8
Good morning from sunny and cold Northeast Ohio, although we are supposed to get up to 70 later today! Coal Hopper #6, Stewart 14 Panel Hopper car kit, painted with Scalecoat II Black paint and lettered with R-C Decals, the NYC went into a building program in the late 50's building a large number of 70 Ton 3 bay hopper cars to replace worn out and less called for two bay 50 ton hoppers. _IMG_0600.png?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) Next a Moloco 50'GATC RBL kit, modified to match the cars the DTI owned, which meant cutting down the ladders as these came with low mounted brake wheels and grabs at the end of the car instead of ladders. Car was painted with Scalecoat II Armour Yellow, Black and Silver paints and lettered with Herald King Decals. This car was painted with the late 70's experimental paint scheme with the Star Herald. A number of cars in each class of cars was painted with the Star Herald but due to the expense of the Scotchcal, the majority of the cars the herald was applied to was the RBL's assigned to the Campbell South plant. _IMG_0599.png?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) A pair of Athearn GP40-2's with a group of XLI and RBL Boxcars in Campbell's Soup service running on the Strongsville Club Layout. _IMG_0487.png?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) Rick Jesionowski |
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Post by cpr4200 on Apr 28, 2024 14:43:18 GMT -8
Nice NYC decals. Are they available commercially? I have several of those cars to letter.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Apr 29, 2024 1:30:55 GMT -8
They call it business class instead of first class because no one wants to be called second class, not a fear of "first class." This is definitely political. In two of the countries that I have lived in (The Netherlands and Sweden) trains have both 1st and 2nd class. No one cares about being labelled 2nd class. I -- and many other people -- buy the tickets that are cheapest which here in Sweden is usually (but not always!) 2nd class. |
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Post by schroed2 on Apr 29, 2024 2:29:43 GMT -8
A pair of Athearn GP40-2's with a group of XLI and RBL Boxcars in Campbell's Soup service running on the Strongsville Club Layout. Rick, would it be possible for yiu to provide more information about the second car (looks like a 40' ACY w door replacement...) thanks |
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Post by dti406 on Apr 29, 2024 8:00:41 GMT -8
Nice NYC decals. Are they available commercially? I have several of those cars to letter. Brian Banna (Fishbelly) had these decals made, I asked him if I could get a set and he let me contact the gentleman who printed the decals and I had a sheet of them made to do a bunch of these cars. You could contact Brian for permission like I did. A pair of Athearn GP40-2's with a group of XLI and RBL Boxcars in Campbell's Soup service running on the Strongsville Club Layout. Rick, would it be possible for yiu to provide more information about the second car (looks like a 40' ACY w door replacement...) thanks In the early 60's the ACY purchased 5 of the DT&I rebuilt 14000 class 40' Boxcars which had been rebuilt and placed in the 19000 class, this rebuilding included installing a 8'plug door and added insulation and load restraining devices for the shipment of canned goods from the Campbell's Soup plant in Napoleon, OH. The DT&I repainted the AC&Y cars in their Jackson shops and for some reason painted the door Reefer Yellow while the rest of the car was in Armour Yellow. Most of the pictures of this car are in Black and White but the color difference can be seen. Rick Jesionowski |
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Post by jacksong1218 on Apr 29, 2024 9:53:38 GMT -8
Received some of the Inventive Models couplers over the weekend, and built a few unpainted to see how they would go together. First is an image of the Prototype Couplers coupler (top) vs the Inventive Coupler (bottom). I think the resolution on the Inventive is slightly better, and the casting is overall cleaner. A nice feature of the Inventive is the slot for the tension spring doesn't go al the way through the coupler, and is easier to install imo than the through slot.  Here's a photo of one on a car.  Finally getting around to building my 3D Central Phase 1 Side Slider boxcar. Really like how this kit is constructed, and it goes together well. I did find the resin on the frame a bit soft, so drilling and tapping the bolster screws was a tougher process. It will be painted in the blue D&O scheme when finished.  |
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Post by Baikal on Apr 29, 2024 13:44:26 GMT -8
They call it business class instead of first class because no one wants to be called second class, not a fear of "first class." This is definitely political. In two of the countries that I have lived in (The Netherlands and Sweden) trains have both 1st and 2nd class. No one cares about being labelled 2nd class. I -- and many other people -- buy the tickets that are cheapest which here in Sweden is usually (but not always!) 2nd class.
Russia usually has three classes of sleepers and two to four classes of coach.
3rd class (platzkart) sleepers are usually much less than 2nd. Really inexpensive. The cars have upper & lower transverse (normal) beds plus upper & lower running along the aisle/window. No doors to compartments.
If anyone's going to get a Eurail or country pass, spend a few bucks more for 1st class. Worth it.
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Post by ncrc5315 on Apr 29, 2024 14:05:53 GMT -8
jacksong1218, please keep us up to date on your progress, and thoughts on these couplers.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Apr 29, 2024 15:14:55 GMT -8
My monster Chessie System consist rolling by the Steel Mill on the ZTNT Model RR Club's Spring Open House  ZTNT by Matt Fisher, on Flickr |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 29, 2024 19:33:33 GMT -8
My monster Chessie System consist rolling by the Steel Mill on the ZTNT Model RR Club's Spring Open House ZTNT by Matt Fisher, on Flickr Quite an effort to get them to play well with each other. Look good. |
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Post by hudsonyard on Apr 29, 2024 20:41:35 GMT -8
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