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Post by NYSW3614 on May 13, 2024 6:17:08 GMT -8
Any thoughts if Walthers will ever re-run their very nicely done Mainline SW-1? Surprised they didn't do more, especially eastern roads.
They have done (Mainline):
B&M minuteman, MILW 2 schemes, SOU, SP tiger and scarlet, PRR pre PC number, GN, Amtk Phase V (1 number), Chessie (1 number), BN, CB&Q, WP silver/orange
And these (sold in singles but there are currently available in 2 packs marked about half off): NS, Alaska
Think these were released in 2 runs?
Other possibles:
EL, DL&W, CR, LV (original three stripe and later 1 stripe), RDG, PRR original, B&O original, Monon, ICG, Metra, Seaboard, you name it
Time will tell...
Joshua
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Post by gevohogger on May 13, 2024 6:54:55 GMT -8
For sure!
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Post by pjm20 on May 13, 2024 7:41:15 GMT -8
Wouldn't mind a Proto version either...
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Post by ed on May 13, 2024 13:41:24 GMT -8
Guaranteed PC and New York Central Phase I versions will be released once I am done with my four.
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Post by rockfan on May 13, 2024 16:52:19 GMT -8
I don't need another switcher since I have four already and I'll get two more when Bowser's C415 comes out.
Looking at original buyers there's over 70 according to Wikipedia.
Walthers should be putting out more products than they are, I guess they're doing ok or they would put more products out.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 13, 2024 19:08:01 GMT -8
I think they're gonna need sound. And that's a pretty small loco.
I don't think you'll see more SW1's (from anyone) until that's solved.
Ed
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Post by jbilbrey on May 13, 2024 19:27:41 GMT -8
Add L&N and NC&StL to the list of possible railroads for Walthers to include in a new run of SW1's. I'm sure I'll see them right after Walthers decides to include those railroads in a future run of Mainline and/or Proto GP's.
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Post by Baikal on May 13, 2024 20:48:14 GMT -8
I think they're gonna need sound. And that's a pretty small loco. I don't think you'll see more SW1's (from anyone) until that's solved. Ed
I'd gladly trade sound for weight in a small loco.
Sound is to locos as fitter rails are to modules.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 14, 2024 4:46:34 GMT -8
I think they're gonna need sound. And that's a pretty small loco. I don't think you'll see more SW1's (from anyone) until that's solved. Ed I'd gladly trade sound for weight in a small loco. Sound is to locos as fitter rails are to modules.
You may. But I don't think Walthers does. Walthers has already done the experiment. Their teeny industrial switcher was missing sound. But had keep-alive, another useful thing in a small loco. Ed |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on May 14, 2024 5:17:32 GMT -8
I think they're gonna need sound. And that's a pretty small loco. I don't think you'll see more SW1's (from anyone) until that's solved. Ed I managed to install sound and a keepalive in mine. Did have to use some of the space in the cab. Nice operating unit. |
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Post by ambluco on May 14, 2024 7:57:31 GMT -8
I'd like to see a retool to allow handrails. Some had full handrails.
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Post by marknycfan on May 14, 2024 16:19:13 GMT -8
A high quality SW-1 in NYC paint would be nice
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Post by typhoon on May 14, 2024 16:32:13 GMT -8
I think they're gonna need sound. And that's a pretty small loco. I don't think you'll see more SW1's (from anyone) until that's solved. Ed
I'd gladly trade sound for weight in a small loco.
Good for you, I wouldn’t. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 14, 2024 17:24:04 GMT -8
Being properly greedy, I want both.
I think the "new" SW1 should be all-metal, and EVERYWHERE inside that's not doing something useful be filled with metal, also. I want it to weight at least 8 1/2 ounces. And sound good. And have keep-alive.
I'm waaaiiiiting!
Ed
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Post by packer on May 15, 2024 5:54:36 GMT -8
Being properly greedy, I want both. I think the "new" SW1 should be all-metal, and EVERYWHERE inside that's not doing something useful be filled with metal, also. I want it to weight at least 8 1/2 ounces. And sound good. And have keep-alive. I'm waaaiiiiting! Ed I mean Broadway did a metal SD70ACe and their NW2/SW7 pulls pretty well; just their electronics are not great. I'm not sure I'd want Walthers to do an all metal loco as they seem to have zinc pest issues. I also think a metal loco would be harder to detail I would like some SW1s though, I just don't recall how long they lasted on BN. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 15, 2024 5:59:57 GMT -8
I would like some SW1s though, I just don't recall how long they lasted on BN. BN roster is here: archive.trainpix.com/BN/EMDORIG/SW1/INDEX.HTMNote that one unit came back to the BN after the Frisco merger and it apparently survived up till the BNSF merger. |
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on May 15, 2024 19:24:43 GMT -8
I would like some SW1s though, I just don't recall how long they lasted on BN. BN roster is here: archive.trainpix.com/BN/EMDORIG/SW1/INDEX.HTMNote that one unit came back to the BN after the Frisco merger and it apparently survived up till the BNSF merger. This locomotive was the Alliance Nebraska shop switcher. It was modified to burn natural gas and repainted to GN colors in 1995 according to my copy of the 2001 BNSF Locomotive Review by Robert Del Grosso. It has been sold and is now owned by US Borax. Not sure exactly when it was sold though, probably sometime in the mid 2000s. Here's an image after the repaint: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3521107 It carries the number GN 77 as part of the heritage scheme, but the del Grosso book lists the official BNSF number as 3300. I'm not sure it ever recieved this number on the exterior of the locomotive though. If it was repainted in 1995, it may have gone straight from BN 70 to GN 77. |
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Post by GP40P-2 on May 15, 2024 21:33:30 GMT -8
Donkeys! Walther's could even sell them in a 6-pack. Sorry, I am not smart enough this evening to link a picture  Just Google Milwaukee Road Donkeys. |
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Post by wagnersteve on May 16, 2024 2:27:11 GMT -8
5/16/24, starting about 6:17 a.m.
I've been enjoying this thread. I believe I remember seeing Reading SW1's from on Philadelphia's Delaware River waterfront from the El north not far from where it emerged from the downtown Market Street Subway in the 1950s and early 1960s; I thought they were cute. At one point I had a pair of rather crude AHM models of that type, probably decorated for the PRR; I got rid of those long ago. I do have a Walthers Mainline B&M SW1, very attractively decorated in the mostly black scheme with multicolor Minuteman heralds, white road name and numbers, and classy white-edged red striping. I can't use sound and don't use DCC.
Am I right in remembering that the New York Central used at least one SW1 as a switcher at the Union Station in Albany, New York?
I hadn't known about the Milwaukee Road's "donkeys". What kind(s?) of EMD switchers did Lehigh Valley's crews call "pups"? The LV used them not just as single switch engines but also in lashups as the MILW evidently did.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 16, 2024 3:32:13 GMT -8
LV's pups were mostly SW8s with dynamic brakes, but they also had SW7s, SW9s, NW1s which became SW900s, and NW2s.
I'm not even sure LV SW1s had MU, looking at 112 and 115 I see no sign of it. They also weren't all in one batch, some were pre-war but a few were late, coming in 1950, so they had the smaller cab windows.
I have a Walthers SW1 someone did a nice paint job on in B&M maroon but then never finished, passed on, and so there's no guts to it, just a shell and frame. Been hoping to find a junker somewhere cheap to finish it off but so far no luck.
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Post by wagnersteve on May 16, 2024 4:05:43 GMT -8
5/16/24, 8:06 a.m.
lvrr325, thanks for the info on the LV's "pups". I was confident that you'd know about them!
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 16, 2024 8:44:17 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on May 16, 2024 9:37:17 GMT -8
Look! An AMC Pacer going under the RR bridge! Looks like Fresh Cherry's would be at home here!
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Post by GP40P-2 on May 16, 2024 11:25:10 GMT -8
Ah yes, but you need one to switch while the other five are on the road…. |
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Post by alcoc430 on May 17, 2024 7:21:08 GMT -8
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Post by win70rob on May 19, 2024 13:21:09 GMT -8
I would love for another run of B&M SW1s, I picked up the 2 from the first run. Sadly, one walked off/got lost at club setup but still have the second and it runs and pulls beautifully. It would be great if they came out with the steam era logo or a blue dip version
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Post by talltim on May 21, 2024 1:16:38 GMT -8
They might be small by US standards, but there are a lot smaller prototypes out there with sound. Also N seems to manage sound!
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Post by ernestbaron on May 21, 2024 8:18:48 GMT -8
Any thoughts if Walthers will ever re-run their very nicely done Mainline SW-1? Surprised they didn't do more, especially eastern roads. They have done (Mainline): B&M minuteman, MILW 2 schemes, SOU, SP tiger and scarlet, PRR pre PC number, GN, Amtk Phase V (1 number), Chessie (1 number), BN, CB&Q, WP silver/orange And these (sold in singles but there are currently available in 2 packs marked about half off): NS, Alaska Think these were released in 2 runs? Other possibles: EL, DL&W, CR, LV (original three stripe and later 1 stripe), RDG, PRR original, B&O original, Monon, ICG, Metra, Seaboard, you name it Time will tell... Joshua Some of the roads you mentioned as other possibilities were done as part of the initial red-box release in the 1990's. I distinctly remember seeing Conrail, Lehigh valley with single stripe, PRR, Chessie and even an ADM painted switcher to go with the Walthers Grain Elevator. |
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Post by lvrr325 on May 22, 2024 2:11:23 GMT -8
I have the early run LV model. It's the wrong color (a dark red instead of Tuscan) and the frame is black. The ADM was a special run when they did the grain elevator series as the industry one year. There were two or three runs of the red box version.
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