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Post by NS4122 on May 21, 2024 15:31:14 GMT -8
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Post by sknorcal on May 21, 2024 17:33:21 GMT -8
I sure would like a newly tooled Dash 8-40CW with correct features, options, and upgraded details. The way that the Atlas nose is flush with the step wells has always bothered me. There should be a small, but noticeable step where the batten strip at the bottom of the nose is welded to the deck.
It is time for an all-new model with see-through screens, split cooling options, and better underframe detail/plumbing/wiring.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 22, 2024 0:29:20 GMT -8
New runs of the dash-8, Trainman GP38-2, Trinity 5660 PD covered hopper, Master 17,360 gallon tank car, CNCF box car and 50' Postwar single door box car. CNCF box car is now $75, the others the price hasn't gone up too bad, although I can buy older runs of the tank car for $20 without looking too hard.
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Post by middledivision on May 22, 2024 12:55:28 GMT -8
Meanwhile, The C40-8's are still MIA.
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Post by hudsonyard on May 22, 2024 16:02:35 GMT -8
Wasn't particularly thrilled with the assembly of those last 50' boxcars from about a year ago, roofs are glued on and one of my PLE cars its done rather sloppily.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 22, 2024 23:12:50 GMT -8
Atlas shows a couple of containers on the way. April 5th one went out with Alco S2's (from March 2019) plus a bunch of N stuff. May 17th has one out with RS1s from June 2018(!!), HO Pullman sleepers (Jan 22), Master Trinity 25.5K Gal tank cars (Jan 22), MP36 locomotives (Partial) (June 22), and Ford Fairmont wagons (June 23).
The dash-8 40Cs are somewhat late pushing 2 years since announced, but it could always be worse, there are probably guys who ordered RS1s through no longer existent retailers who will have to try to pick them up elsewhere. On the other hand that means there will be unallocated ones so they won't be hard to get.
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Post by drolsen on May 23, 2024 3:11:23 GMT -8
I sure would like a newly tooled Dash 8-40CW with correct features, options, and upgraded details. The way that the Atlas nose is flush with the step wells has always bothered me. There should be a small, but noticeable step where the batten strip at the bottom of the nose is welded to the deck. It is time for an all-new model with see-through screens, split cooling options, and better underframe detail/plumbing/wiring. I would certainly go for that. I need about 6-8 CW40-8s for my CSX fleet. They were quickly becoming the GE equivalent of the ubiquitous SD40-2 in the 1990s with the numbers that CSX purchased. I’d love to see a ScaleTrains model to go along with their CW44AC. However, I think overall, the Atlas model does a great job of capturing the look, lines, and proportions of the prototype. The only thing that really bugs me is the way they designed the grab irons so the mounting holes are in line with the long axis of the locomotive body, making the grab iron legs angled. I’ll be ordering the three Atlas CSX YN2 Bright Future numbers. Some day, when I have unlimited time, I’ll work on detailing them with the various Details West parts. Dave |
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Post by riogrande on May 23, 2024 4:26:41 GMT -8
I'll be keeping an eye on the Ford Fairmont wagons. I should have enough Fairmont sedans for a tri-level, or at worst may need to add a few more if it's 5 cars per deck. The wagons may be 4 cars per deck.
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Post by packer on May 23, 2024 5:48:13 GMT -8
I'll be keeping an eye on the Ford Fairmont wagons. I should have enough Fairmont sedans for a tri-level, or at worst may need to add a few more if it's 5 cars per deck. The wagons may be 4 cars per deck. same, except I'm just doing 1 rack for now with a split. Wish there was a nice trilevel open rack (athearn?) |
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Post by riogrande on May 23, 2024 5:55:23 GMT -8
I'll be keeping an eye on the Ford Fairmont wagons. I should have enough Fairmont sedans for a tri-level, or at worst may need to add a few more if it's 5 cars per deck. The wagons may be 4 cars per deck. same, except I'm just doing 1 rack for now with a split. Wish there was a nice trilevel open rack (athearn?) Athearn has offered open Genesis tri-level in the past - it's been a couple years. I bought a few. It you hunt around, you could probably still find some. |
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Post by lvrr325 on May 23, 2024 6:10:55 GMT -8
If it's anything like the sedans the Fairmonts will go quickly. I sold one at a show and the rest of the 20 or so I got all went on eBay between four customers in about a week, by the next show I went to they were gone.
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Post by riogrande on May 23, 2024 6:49:00 GMT -8
Yeah, I figured they wouldn't last long so I ordered some from one of my preferred vendors. I'll see how they fit but guessing I'll need 15 for a tri-level. Have 12 now.
The Ford F100's didn't last long but I had to hunt around to get enough to fill two racks.
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Post by middledivision on May 23, 2024 7:47:28 GMT -8
I sure would like a newly tooled Dash 8-40CW with correct features, options, and upgraded details. The way that the Atlas nose is flush with the step wells has always bothered me. There should be a small, but noticeable step where the batten strip at the bottom of the nose is welded to the deck. It is time for an all-new model with see-through screens, split cooling options, and better underframe detail/plumbing/wiring. I would certainly go for that. I need about 6-8 CW40-8s for my CSX fleet. They were quickly becoming the GE equivalent of the ubiquitous SD40-2 in the 1990s with the numbers that CSX purchased. I’d love to see a ScaleTrains model to go along with their CW44AC. However, I think overall, the Atlas model does a great job of capturing the look, lines, and proportions of the prototype. The only thing that really bugs me is the way they designed the grab irons so the mounting holes are in line with the long axis of the locomotive body, making the grab iron legs angled. I’ll be ordering the three Atlas CSX YN2 Bright Future numbers. Some day, when I have unlimited time, I’ll work on detailing them with the various Details West parts. Dave Unless they are in the pipeline somewhere, I wonder if this new Dash 8 announcement puts a damper on an updated version from the other guys. |
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Post by cn2240 on May 23, 2024 8:04:48 GMT -8
That CN Blue Devil Dash 8-40CW has my attention.
It's been a while since Atlas produced their one and only run of the Blue Devils with ESU and now they're basically impossible to find nowadays.
Also nice that they're producing the one remaining active one as well.
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Post by packer on May 23, 2024 8:43:34 GMT -8
Yeah, I figured they wouldn't last long so I ordered some from one of my preferred vendors. I'll see how they fit but guessing I'll need 15 for a tri-level. Have 12 now. The Ford F100's didn't last long but I had to hunt around to get enough to fill two racks. I don't recall how different the '78 and '73 F series were. I'm sorta curious, I didn' get any of them them. Would maybe get a couple for layout purposes |
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Post by riogrande on May 23, 2024 8:58:53 GMT -8
I googled 1978 Ford F100 and they sure look very similar. I'm covering a range of years with the cars and trucks I'm loading to autoracks. Figure anything early to late 70's will have to do as the choices are limited. Recall reading somewhere that America auto manufactures back then retooled sometimes as long as every 10 years so other than minor changes to lights or grills the cars would look approx the same for ten years.
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Post by Frank on May 23, 2024 9:53:09 GMT -8
Ford F100’s remained the same for the Atlas model body style until about 1979. At some point, 1976 or perhaps 1977 the front grille changed though. The only real obvious change I know of. The Fairmonts are decent models but like the F100 the wheels need a facelift. I bought lots of them still.
Been a long time since Atlas did the Fairmonts before the recent run, kind of hate that with their acquisition of RPS we will wait years in between runs with those too.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 23, 2024 10:14:35 GMT -8
The biggest change in the run of those Ford pickups is the grille and they go to square headlights around 77-78 - which already existed in plastic from Life-Like in the form of an accurate appearing, but one piece casting with no underframe or interior details. Given the car they made with these is a Chevy Citation they probably represent 1979 models. The wheels on them are even pretty decent once painted, although they're big tires for a 2 wheel drive truck. Even so, they're not expensive to round up a set, I see them at shows for a dollar or two each. A little paint and a styrene bottom and you could easily load a rack or two. The Citation's only downfall is the single body style.
There was no set standard for tooling changes; the larger companies regularly had new bodies, the lower end companies would make do for much longer, or re-dress existing shells with new parts over a few years. These Fairmonts lasted about five years, as did the Citation. AMC used 1970 Hornet/Gremlin bodies right to the end in 1987 as Eagle/Spirit models.
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Post by riogrande on May 23, 2024 10:55:01 GMT -8
Googling the Ford F100's for 1978, some labeled 1978 had round headlights and some square. I'll pass on the Citations - don't have time to add another project. Yes, some cars models had a shorter run. I didn't say there was as standard.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 23, 2024 23:03:23 GMT -8
I always found the Citation to be on par with the Tyco Camaro and AMX.
The Trident Chevy truck and van are about this era, too, the van can pass for several years 1978-85 and the trucks 1981-87 or so, a new grille insert would take the Suburban, Blazer and 1-ton to 91. The van could have the same done and pass for 71-76, 86-91, or 92-96. I occasionally find these cheap at shows, too. And the cutaway box van is a factory GM body.
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Post by espeedude07 on May 28, 2024 3:06:12 GMT -8
Well I've always been a fan of these locos, but not sure I'm sold on the details
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Post by packer on May 28, 2024 6:02:58 GMT -8
I always found the Citation to be on par with the Tyco Camaro and AMX. The Trident Chevy truck and van are about this era, too, the van can pass for several years 1978-85 and the trucks 1981-87 or so, a new grille insert would take the Suburban, Blazer and 1-ton to 91. The van could have the same done and pass for 71-76, 86-91, or 92-96. I occasionally find these cheap at shows, too. And the cutaway box van is a factory GM body. I got a bunch of the Trident Chevy vans from a show. However the vans seem too tall, maybe I'll make a floor to put them on the bottom of a bi-level. Now if I could get lucky and find a bunch of the Con-Cor/Herpa Foxbody mustangs at a show. |
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Post by riogrande on May 28, 2024 6:12:20 GMT -8
I got a bunch of the Trident Chevy vans from a show. However the vans seem too tall, maybe I'll make a floor to put them on the bottom of a bi-level. I got a bunch of Trident vans for a great price, but found they won't fit in the bottom level of my bi-level autoracks as well. They will go on the top level and I'll fit something else in the bottom level. |
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Post by sd80mac on May 28, 2024 7:15:01 GMT -8
That CN Blue Devil Dash 8-40CW has my attention. It's been a while since Atlas produced their one and only run of the Blue Devils with ESU and now they're basically impossible to find nowadays. Also nice that they're producing the one remaining active one as well. Unless I'm reading the announcement wrong, that's the only one they're doing. Wish they'd do a few more! |
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Post by wsor on May 30, 2024 20:11:27 GMT -8
The biggest change in the run of those Ford pickups is the grille and they go to square headlights around 77-78 - which already existed in plastic from Life-Like in the form of an accurate appearing, but one piece casting with no underframe or interior details. Given the car they made with these is a Chevy Citation they probably represent 1979 models. The wheels on them are even pretty decent once painted, although they're big tires for a 2 wheel drive truck. Even so, they're not expensive to round up a set, I see them at shows for a dollar or two each. A little paint and a styrene bottom and you could easily load a rack or two. Ford trucks from 1973-77 looked very similar, mostly just different grilles each year. In 1978, the turn signals went below the headlights. Round or rectangular headlights were available, higher trims got the rectangular headlights. The Life-Like model is of a Super Camper Special, with a longer wheelbase, a door in the passenger side of the box for the spare tire, and bigger tires, as befitting a one-ton capacity truck (F350). |
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Post by cn2240 on May 31, 2024 9:37:44 GMT -8
That CN Blue Devil Dash 8-40CW has my attention. It's been a while since Atlas produced their one and only run of the Blue Devils with ESU and now they're basically impossible to find nowadays. Also nice that they're producing the one remaining active one as well. Unless I'm reading the announcement wrong, that's the only one they're doing. Wish they'd do a few more! Yeah, it is the only one. I'm just happy they're doing that one instead one of the others. I certainly would love if they did 2 or 3 more road numbers. |
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Post by tony on Jun 1, 2024 17:41:42 GMT -8
I just check the list of "updated" features - the only things of interest are the led lighting, but wanted I would have preferred is replacement to the funky rear grills/screens and implement something that is see-thought design.
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Post by drolsen on Jun 2, 2024 6:31:57 GMT -8
I just check the list of "updated" features - the only things of interest are the led lighting, but wanted I would have preferred is replacement to the funky rear grills/screens and implement something that is see-thought design. This has been a trade-off for just about as long as manufacturers have been making models of diesel locomotives. Overland used to get beat up by prototype modelers for their etched metal see-through grills on their brass diesels that had holes in them that worked out to about the size of a baseball. They looked nothing like the fine mesh screens on the real thing, but they were see-through! In many cases, the material just can't be scaled down to HO size. Elizabeth Allen, the incredible SP modeler, has an example where she used chiffon lace that she found at a bridal store to represent the radiator screens on one of the GE diesel models. It was the only thing she could find that came close to the look of the prototype. As much as I love my ScaleTrains CSX CW44ACs, an essential prototype in my 1990s modeling era, the see-through screens on the radiator hood doors are approaching the look of the old Overland brass models - heavy screen material that would be made of something like 1/2" rod if scaled up to life size. You just can't replicate something like the screens shown here in HO scale, so sometimes solid plastic with weathering is a better-looking option: CSX CW40-8 7675 Radiator SectionThis is another good example, in my opinion. Athearn modeled the radiator grills on the sides of their GE P40/P42 diesel in solid plastic, starting with the Blue Box model in the late 1990s and continuing all the way up to the Genesis run that was released a couple months ago. They used paint to replicate the diagonal bracing behind the screens. I think that's still the best way to represent the screens on the prototype, which would be impossible to make see-through in HO scale and still look anything like the real material: AMTK P42 189 Radiator ScreensDave |
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