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Post by cemr5396 on May 28, 2024 6:33:05 GMT -8
Treat their job more seriously? Have you seen their videos? Damn them for having fun at their jobs. They should be as miserable as some of the posters on here. having fun or enjoying your job, and taking it seriously are not mutually exlusive. Or at least they shouldn't be. It's possible to enjoy your job without half assing it. |
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Post by gevohogger on May 28, 2024 7:10:40 GMT -8
If you read the threads on this forum you get the idea that everything Rapido sells is garbage. I know they are not perfect, but over all they make decent products. Some examples of the hatred posted here are: They Should be called "Crapido" They are"Tyco 2.0" Friends don't let friends buy Rapido. Rapido are crooks that practice bait and switch tactics. Ever since they made the GE B36-7, everything they have made since has been severely bashed on this forum. Other forums and facebook groups are more fair and not outright hostile toward Rapido. Coming from the guy who complains when Tangent releases something that isn't for the era he models?
It's a wonder there are any family-owned businesses left in this hobby.
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Post by track1 on May 28, 2024 7:30:32 GMT -8
I think they did, but it is the US built Chinese version with the funky radiator bat wings. For the international market, not Botchmann US. Not to mention that the Chinese C36-7 is shorter than the C36-7 built for the North American Market and the cab door is on the correct for the Chinese C36-7's, but wrong for the North American ones. Bachmann did announce a new C36-7 in 2023; artwork for the UP, NS, CSX, and CR units are shown in their NMRA brochure Bachmann 2023 NMRA Brochure
But, they haven't shown any preproduction models of it [that I know of]. The different length and the radiator wings were issues we became aware of after we began planning for the project by adapting the Bachmann China "ND5-1" model. For time constraints we adapted the Chinese version technical artwork to represent the paint schemes we're offering in the announcement, but we're now working on a fully revised and proportionally accurate body shell. Hopefully we'll have a physical sample to show in the near future- appreciate the feedback. Tyler- Bachmann R&D |
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Post by NS4122 on May 28, 2024 7:46:09 GMT -8
Seiously? Expressing a desire that Tangent would create a modern model is equivalent to "hatred?" toward them and that somehow I am contributing to the demise of family owned businesses? Wishing that a company that makes high quality models to make something modern isn't hatred or debasement like Crapido or Tyco 2.0. It's the exact opposite! You Tangent fanboys really are thin skinned. If you read the threads on this forum you get the idea that everything Rapido sells is garbage. I know they are not perfect, but over all they make decent products. Some examples of the hatred posted here are: They Should be called "Crapido" They are"Tyco 2.0" Friends don't let friends buy Rapido. Rapido are crooks that practice bait and switch tactics. Ever since they made the GE B36-7, everything they have made since has been severely bashed on this forum. Other forums and facebook groups are more fair and not outright hostile toward Rapido. Coming from the guy who complains when Tangent releases something that isn't for the era he models? It's a wonder there are any family-owned businesses left in this hobby.
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Post by locochris on May 28, 2024 7:53:48 GMT -8
The different length and the radiator wings were issues we became aware of after we began planning for the project by adapting the Bachmann China "ND5-1" model. For time constraints we adapted the Chinese version technical artwork to represent the paint schemes we're offering in the announcement, but we're now working on a fully revised and proportionally accurate body shell. Hopefully we'll have a physical sample to show in the near future- appreciate the feedback. Tyler- Bachmann R&D Very cool to see that Bachmann reads these forums. |
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Post by gevohogger on May 28, 2024 7:56:49 GMT -8
Seiously? Expressing a desire that Tangent would create a modern model is equivalent to "hatred?" toward them and that somehow I am contributing to the demise of family owned businesses? Wishing that a company that makes high quality models to make something modern isn't hatred or debasement like Crapido or Tyco 2.0. It's the exact opposite! You Tangent fanboys really are thin skinned. Coming from the guy who complains when Tangent releases something that isn't for the era he models? It's a wonder there are any family-owned businesses left in this hobby.
Go back and read your post (the one I was referring to). You're no better than the Crapido posters.
And calling ME a Tangent fanboy? LOL. I only buy Tangent stuff when it looks like something I can flip. I've kept none of it.
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Post by NS4122 on May 28, 2024 8:42:26 GMT -8
So by your logic, when a new product is announced, posters who reply: "my wallet is safe" "not my era" "wrong phase" "yawn" etc, are haters as well? So I guess that when someone expresses a desire to buy something that a quality manufacturer might produce is hatred. Got it. Huh? By the way, your admission that you only buy tangent to flip and that you keep none of it, sounds like it fits your criteria of "hatred" Pot meet kettle. Seiously? Expressing a desire that Tangent would create a modern model is equivalent to "hatred?" toward them and that somehow I am contributing to the demise of family owned businesses? Wishing that a company that makes high quality models to make something modern isn't hatred or debasement like Crapido or Tyco 2.0. It's the exact opposite! You Tangent fanboys really are thin skinned. Go back and read your post (the one I was referring to). You're no better than the Crapido posters.
And calling ME a Tangent fanboy? LOL. I only buy Tangent stuff when it looks like something I can flip. I've kept none of it.
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Post by cpr4200 on May 28, 2024 8:51:05 GMT -8
Re: family-owned model rr businesses.
Aren't most of them family owned? Bachmann and Horizon/Athearn are corporate, but Bowser, Atlas, Rapido, Tangent, Scale Trains, Intermountain, Walthers, the 3D/resin guys, and the brass importers are pretty much family businesses. As well as the detail parts and decal makers. Some are bigger (Walthers, Atlas) than others.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 28, 2024 9:10:22 GMT -8
So by your logic, when a new product is announced, posters who reply: "my wallet is safe" "not my era" "wrong phase" "ywan" etc, are haters as well? So I guess that when someone expresses a desire to buy something that a quality manufacturer might produce is hatred. Got it. Huh? No. That is not what he said. Again, no. He did not actually define "haters". If anyone did, it was you. Your list of four examples is characterized my some flagrant meanness. None of his are that way. So none of his statements are examples of "hatred". Ed |
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Post by NS4122 on May 28, 2024 14:33:54 GMT -8
You just don't get it or you are just being your usual contrarian self. Gevohogger characterized a comment that I made in another thread about wishing for a modern model from Tangent, to be the same as the quotes about Rapido that I listed as hatred. I'm not going to rehash what I said again. I didn't think that my point was too difficult to understand. So by your logic, when a new product is announced, posters who reply: "my wallet is safe" "not my era" "wrong phase" "ywan" etc, are haters as well? So I guess that when someone expresses a desire to buy something that a quality manufacturer might produce is hatred. Got it. Huh? No. That is not what he said. Again, no. He did not actually define "haters". If anyone did, it was you. Your list of four examples is characterized my some flagrant meanness. None of his are that way. So none of his statements are examples of "hatred". Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 28, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8
You just don't get it or you are just being your usual contrarian self. You see, there you have verged on a personal insult. That is a sign of someone who can't actually respond logically, and reverts to name calling to cover that fact. He plainly did not. He said: "Coming from the guy who complains when Tangent releases something that isn't for the era he models?" There is NOTHING there that says you "hate" Tangent. Complaining isn't hating. He did NOT say that you were writing in a mean way about Tangent. Ed |
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Post by hudsonyard on May 28, 2024 15:28:51 GMT -8
instead of getting into a stupid pissing match, why don't everyone go work on their layouts instead.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 28, 2024 15:35:45 GMT -8
instead of getting into a stupid pissing match, why don't everyone go work on their layouts instead. Yes, you're right. I'm sure if we just ignore him, he'll go away. I'll give it a try. Thanks, Ed |
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Post by typhoon on May 29, 2024 12:22:27 GMT -8
Damn them for having fun at their jobs. They should be as miserable as some of the posters on here. having fun or enjoying your job, and taking it seriously are not mutually exlusive. Or at least they shouldn't be. It's possible to enjoy your job without half assing it. It is also possible to goof around at your job and still take it seriously. So to point out how they act on their advertising videos as an example of how they don't take their job seriously is just dumb. Or a little bit butthurt because they are not as miserable as those that are criticizing it. |
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Post by cemr5396 on May 29, 2024 14:10:21 GMT -8
having fun or enjoying your job, and taking it seriously are not mutually exlusive. Or at least they shouldn't be. It's possible to enjoy your job without half assing it. It is also possible to goof around at your job and still take it seriously. So to point out how they act on their advertising videos as an example of how they don't take their job seriously is just dumb. Or a little bit butthurt because they are not as miserable as those that are criticizing it. I didn't say anything about their video antics being a reflection of the seriousness with which they take their job. I think their general sloppyness is a pretty good indication of that. |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on May 29, 2024 18:01:36 GMT -8
Nap time children....
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 29, 2024 19:35:34 GMT -8
This is your first post in this topic. And you are saying everyone posting previously is acting like children, since you are not separating anyone out. Right? Ed |
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Post by lvrr325 on May 30, 2024 1:27:09 GMT -8
If the shoe fits, wear it.
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Post by GP40P-2 on May 30, 2024 17:59:50 GMT -8
Final score, 48 posts, and 12 have anything to do future C36-7 models.
Most unexpected post, Tyler from Bachman who stepped into to the ARF Thunderdome and came out unscathed. The Bachman model may actually be a contender if they are using the DNA of one of their international models, which are usually not bad.
Most disappointing, but expected, no one from Rapido or Aurora had anything to contribute, but the 36 unrelated posts are probably a good indicator of why.
Sounds like no one is stepping up to do the sharp looking ex-MP/UP Estonian Railways units; the couple inch gauge difference not withstanding.
Donnell, go ahead and close the topic, there is no intelligent life left here.
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Post by es80ac on May 30, 2024 18:47:24 GMT -8
The Bachmann c36-7/nd5 derivative has badly flawed cab and nose contours, so I am not too excited about their American versions. Aurora will still be the best bet, if they can improve the drive and stay away from any exotic experiments over the drive systems.
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on May 31, 2024 5:09:40 GMT -8
This is your first post in this topic. And you are saying everyone posting previously is acting like children, since you are not separating anyone out. Right? Ed Everyone but you Ed, you're just you...  |
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Post by ernestbaron on Jun 14, 2024 7:57:32 GMT -8
I had heard that Rapido was working on the C36-7 and C30-7A at the same time as their C30-7. This confirmed at least part of that.
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Post by carrman on Jun 14, 2024 9:12:20 GMT -8
I had heard that Rapido was working on the C36-7 and C30-7A at the same time as their C30-7. This confirmed at least part of that. If Rapido can do as well as they B36-7, CSX stepwells notwithstanding, I'll get A C30 and a C36 in UP. If they don't, then I won't. But, I won't stand in the front of the line to get any, I'll wait until they are in folks hands to see how well they did first. My SP RS11 experience taught me that. Dave |
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Post by sd80mac on Jun 15, 2024 11:04:55 GMT -8
I had heard that Rapido was working on the C36-7 and C30-7A at the same time as their C30-7. This confirmed at least part of that. My wallet would not be safe if a plastic C30-7A hit the market. Even if it was from Rapido. |
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Post by prr 4467 on Jun 18, 2024 18:37:22 GMT -8
Umm, actually, 51 years in this hobby and I have never had more issues with any manufacturers' products than I've experienced with Rapido.
The other guys fix their paint mistakes by issuing new loco body shells when needed: ScaleTrains, Athearn Genesis, Bowser, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some others, but factually those 3 named have done so in recent years, in addition to offering free replacement parts to fix other issues that also occurred when they made mistakes in tooling. They all admitted and owned their mistakes. They have been as above board, open and honest as reasonably possible.
The other guys, also including Tangent, bend over backwards to personally help me out when I have had defective products. Rapido has...just not.
Despite my misgivings about Rapido, I did continue to order many products, as I typically do give manufacturers multiple "second chances".
I actually take pride in being able to make some minor repairs to new products when needed, because that's what any real modeler should be able to do. Sometimes the repaired items have become my favorite trains.
I'm now at a point of being very wary of any new Rapido product or announcement. They are not in my circle of trust.
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