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Post by GP40P-2 on May 24, 2024 21:25:40 GMT -8
I know that at one time, Aurora had announced the C36-7. It appears that this has dropped off the radar, and now Rapido has announced theirs.
Does anyone know if Aurora is still proceeding with theirs? I think that the Aurora model would be the preferred option, and the Rapido would be the "only if I have to option."
Did either of them announce the Estonian Railways version, Aurora on their own or Rapido as a special run for some other entity?
Thanks
Jim
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 25, 2024 6:28:57 GMT -8
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Post by middledivision on May 25, 2024 7:19:06 GMT -8
I have the Rapido on preorder but prefer the Aurora.
My SD60F had the truck issue, which was fixed and runs fine. I'm a little nervous about Rapido's version of the truck.
If they show up before the Rapido, I'll order them. I'm still waiting for an update on the autorack from Aurora.
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Post by nstophat on May 25, 2024 14:26:31 GMT -8
Didn't Bachmann announce one as well, or am I going crazy....
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Post by GP40P-2 on May 25, 2024 16:24:47 GMT -8
Didn't Bachmann announce one as well, or am I going crazy.... I think they did, but it is the US built Chinese version with the funky radiator bat wings. For the international market, not Botchmann US. |
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Post by jbilbrey on May 25, 2024 21:09:46 GMT -8
Didn't Bachmann announce one as well, or am I going crazy.... I think they did, but it is the US built Chinese version with the funky radiator bat wings. For the international market, not Botchmann US. Not to mention that the Chinese C36-7 is shorter than the C36-7 built for the North American Market and the cab door is on the correct for the Chinese C36-7's, but wrong for the North American ones. Bachmann did announce a new C36-7 in 2023; artwork for the UP, NS, CSX, and CR units are shown in their NMRA brochure Bachmann 2023 NMRA Brochure
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Post by bnsf971 on May 26, 2024 3:03:12 GMT -8
Didn't Bachmann announce one as well, or am I going crazy.... I think they did, but it is the US built Chinese version with the funky radiator bat wings. For the international market, not Botchmann US. I've always thought the C36-7 looked "off". Almost like it was the 1:1 Bachmann version of itself. I don't know why, but it's always had the kludged together look to me. |
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Post by Baikal on May 26, 2024 6:27:44 GMT -8
I think they did, but it is the US built Chinese version with the funky radiator bat wings. For the international market, not Botchmann US. Not to mention that the Chinese C36-7 is shorter than the C36-7 built for the North American Market and the cab door is on the correct for the Chinese C36-7's, but wrong for the North American ones. Bachmann did announce a new C36-7 in 2023; artwork for the UP, NS, CSX, and CR units are shown in their NMRA brochure Bachmann 2023 NMRA Brochure
But, they haven't shown any preproduction models of it [that I know of].
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Post by NS4122 on May 26, 2024 7:44:19 GMT -8
How do you know that? If they have operating issues like the SD60F, they won't run rings around anything. I took a quick glance at the comments for the post you referenced and saw somebody mention that even with the fix his ( and others that he knew) still didn't run well and couldn't be MU'd with other brands of locomotives. I know it's not an issue for the box openers, but I would be very hesitant to buy an Aurora locomotive for that reason. After the UP boxcar fiasco, I would also have concerns with Aurora taking shortcuts with the paint. Judging by these samples, it's going to be worth the wait and run rings around the (C)Rapido. |
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Post by Baikal on May 26, 2024 8:06:04 GMT -8
How do you know that? If they have operating issues like the SD60F, they won't run rings around anything. I took a quick glance at the comments for the post you referenced and saw somebody mention that even with the fix his ( and others that he knew) still didn't run well and couldn't be MU'd with other brands of locomotives. I know it's not an issue for the box openers, but I would be very hesitant to buy an Aurora locomotive for that reason. After the UP boxcar fiasco, I would also have concerns with Aurora taking shortcuts with the paint. Judging by these samples, it's going to be worth the wait and run rings around the (C)Rapido.
"couldn't be MU'd with other brands of locomotives." is demonstrably false.
But somebody mentioned it...
Here's a similar mention from the (paid) Trainorders website:
"Another home run offering from Rapido. The C36-7 is one of my all time favorite locomoptives and with a quality name like Rapido behind it, I will be ordering several. As a UP fan, thank you for offering the option lettering. It is MOST appreciated. The USAX car is also a hit. I like the fact that the triple axle truck will be offered with roller bearing axles. Again, I will be ordering several. Not to sound like a spoiled brat kid but if I may ask, I hope the chassis from the C36-7 can be used for a ATSF SF30C. This would be icing on the cake. Thanks for all you do, Rapido."
Was it good for you too?
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Post by NS4122 on May 26, 2024 10:47:07 GMT -8
I'm not sure how that's similar to the various comments I've read about the performance issues with the SD60Fs, but it does show that there are people out there that don't share this forum's deep hatred for Rapido. "couldn't be MU'd with other brands of locomotives." is demonstrably false. But somebody mentioned it...
Here's a similar mention from the (paid) Trainorders website: "Another home run offering from Rapido. The C36-7 is one of my all time favorite locomoptives and with a quality name like Rapido behind it, I will be ordering several. As a UP fan, thank you for offering the option lettering. It is MOST appreciated. The USAX car is also a hit. I like the fact that the triple axle truck will be offered with roller bearing axles. Again, I will be ordering several. Not to sound like a spoiled brat kid but if I may ask, I hope the chassis from the C36-7 can be used for a ATSF SF30C. This would be icing on the cake. Thanks for all you do, Rapido." Was it good for you too?
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 26, 2024 11:26:28 GMT -8
I'm not sure how that's similar to the various comments I've read about the performance issues with the SD60Fs, but it does show that there are people out there that don't share this forum's deep hatred for Rapido. I think that's more "deep wariness" for Rapido. And assigning "deep hatred" to an entire forum is quite a reach. Imagine, for example, the results if you did one of those polls that happen now and then: Do you feel deep hatred for Rapido? Do you feel deep love for Rapido? Do you feel deep wariness for Rapido? Do you lack any deep feelings at all for Rapido? Please pick only one. Ed |
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Post by Christian on May 26, 2024 12:00:48 GMT -8
Do you lack any deep feelings at all for Rapido? That one. I often read the threads for amusement. When they do something I want AND can afford, then I'll take things more seriously. |
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Post by lvrr325 on May 26, 2024 12:16:45 GMT -8
Some people like Rapido and some people are Rapeed-off at them.
As a dealer I dislike that Rapido makes mistakes at the price point they sell at, because it makes what is a hard impulse sell even harder when they goof things up. But when they get it right, they do sell well.
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Post by NS4122 on May 26, 2024 15:43:46 GMT -8
If you read the threads on this forum you get the idea that everything Rapido sells is garbage. I know they are not perfect, but over all they make decent products. Some examples of the hatred posted here are:
They Should be called "Crapido"
They are"Tyco 2.0"
Friends don't let friends buy Rapido.
Rapido are crooks that practice bait and switch tactics.
Ever since they made the GE B36-7, everything they have made since has been severely bashed on this forum. Other forums and facebook groups are more fair and not outright hostile toward Rapido.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 26, 2024 16:41:13 GMT -8
If you read the threads on this forum you get the idea that everything Rapido sells is garbage. I know they are not perfect, but over all they make decent products. Some examples of the hatred posted here are: They Should be called "Crapido" They are"Tyco 2.0" Friends don't let friends buy Rapido. Rapido are crooks that practice bait and switch tactics. Ever since they made the GE B36-7, everything they have made since has been severely bashed on this forum. Other forums and facebook groups are more fair and not outright hostile toward Rapido. SOME people on this forum like to pile on. SOME people on this forum delight in being offensive. SOME people on this forum make personal attacks. I don't see that SOME people behaving this way makes this whole forum a den of Rapido haters. That said, Rapido has helped fan those flames by frequently screwing up. Ed |
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Post by NS4122 on May 26, 2024 17:06:02 GMT -8
Your post would be correct if you change the word "SOME" to "MOST" and BTW your last sentence proves my point. If you read the threads on this forum you get the idea that everything Rapido sells is garbage. I know they are not perfect, but over all they make decent products. Some examples of the hatred posted here are: They Should be called "Crapido" They are"Tyco 2.0" Friends don't let friends buy Rapido. Rapido are crooks that practice bait and switch tactics. Ever since they made the GE B36-7, everything they have made since has been severely bashed on this forum. Other forums and facebook groups are more fair and not outright hostile toward Rapido. SOME people on this forum like to pile on. SOME people on this forum delight in being offensive. SOME people on this forum make personal attacks. I don't see that SOME people behaving this way makes this whole forum a den of Rapido haters. That said, Rapido has helped fan those flames by frequently screwing up. Ed |
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Post by drsvelte on May 26, 2024 17:08:29 GMT -8
I have six Rapido locomotives (no freight or passenger cars). Four Alco RS-11s in N&W. NKP, and PRR and two SOU GE B36-7s. I’m very pleased with all these models. I am hoping for a good FM H16-44, but I have not pre-ordered.
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Post by GP40P-2 on May 26, 2024 18:29:11 GMT -8
So to avoid devolving any deeper into an R-word thing, it looks like we have three potential options. Probably in order of preference 1) Aurora, 2) Rapido, 3) Bachmann. Each has potential manufacturer baggage issues, and B isn’t even offering the MP version, just a generic. R is a roll of the dice, and A will depend on if they can do the drive correctly. I don’t get warm fuzzies pre ordering on any of them, but may take a gamble if I want a C36.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 26, 2024 19:30:23 GMT -8
Your post would be correct if you change the word "SOME" to "MOST" You, of course, have the numbers to prove it. Or do you just "know"? Really? How is that? Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 26, 2024 20:52:00 GMT -8
I have six Rapido locomotives (no freight or passenger cars). Four Alco RS-11s in N&W. NKP, and PRR and two SOU GE B36-7s. I’m very pleased with all these models. I am hoping for a good FM H16-44, but I have not pre-ordered. I am pretty happy with my Rapido RS-11's. I like them and I will keep them. Unfortunately, someone at Rapido did not realize that a steam engine bell makes steam engine bell sounds. Pretty hard to believe, but there you are. There are steam engine bells on two of my Rapido RS-11 models. But there is no steam engine bell sound in the sound files. To some, my saying that indicates my "deep hatred for Rapido". Or so it appears. Ed |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 27, 2024 0:31:49 GMT -8
Do you feel deep wariness for Rapido? This one. They manage to screw up more things on more models than most other manufacturers. I don't hate them. It's more like I feel sorry for them. And a bit frustrated that they don't treat their job a bit more seriously. |
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Post by nsc39d8 on May 27, 2024 5:36:58 GMT -8
So I haven't said anything about this company since I was told to shut the H up in the B36-7 thread when I mentioned the Southern B36-7 was wrong just like the SBD/CSX.
I feel I have been pretty lucky with my purchases from Rapido. Two boxcars, one GP20 tank, Dash8-40CM, F59(which I did as a NCDOT unit) and I just got my DL M420.
So far no problems with any of them.
Now that said I have canceled some pre-orders for their products mainly the GP38 since it was pointed out every time the renders came back and the class lights were moved even after they were correct twice.
I for now am not going to preorder a C36-7 which I would like two for my SOU/NW/NS themed layout. For now I will stay with detailing and upgrading my Atlas C30-7's to what I need.
I am taking a wait and see on both of these C36-7 proposals.
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Post by locochris on May 27, 2024 7:23:28 GMT -8
I feel I have been pretty lucky with my purchases from Rapido. Two boxcars, one GP20 tank, Dash8-40CM, F59(which I did as a NCDOT unit) and I just got my DL M420. So far no problems with any of them. I'm kind of surprised that you're happy with the GP20 tank after it was discovered that they got the diameter wrong after messing up the tooling. |
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Post by middledivision on May 27, 2024 9:49:42 GMT -8
Do you feel deep wariness for Rapido? This one. They manage to screw up more things on more models than most other manufacturers. I don't hate them. It's more like I feel sorry for them. And a bit frustrated that they don't treat their job a bit more seriously. Treat their job more seriously? Have you seen their videos? The bottom line is they sell out most of their products, probably the majority of which never run, just get displayed. If they ever were serious about a project, they could do a great job. Problem is, they settle for 95% of perfect and brag about it being the "definitive" model. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 27, 2024 9:54:15 GMT -8
The bottom line is they sell out most of their products, probably the majority of which never run, just get displayed. If they ever were serious about a project, they could do a great job. Problem is, they settle for 95% of perfect and brag about it being the "definitive" model. Agree with your last bit, but not the first. They have lots of models still in stock, and many dealers are stuck with their models and can't sell them. I can imagine that they're quite annoyed and probably going to be buying less in future. We'll see. |
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Post by simulatortrain on May 27, 2024 13:43:54 GMT -8
I just hope the recent love for -7s translates into some new U boats.
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Post by typhoon on May 27, 2024 13:55:24 GMT -8
This one. They manage to screw up more things on more models than most other manufacturers. I don't hate them. It's more like I feel sorry for them. And a bit frustrated that they don't treat their job a bit more seriously. Treat their job more seriously? Have you seen their videos? Damn them for having fun at their jobs. They should be as miserable as some of the posters on here. |
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Post by bcrmlw on May 27, 2024 18:23:57 GMT -8
So I haven't said anything about this company since I was told to shut the H up in the B36-7 thread when I mentioned the Southern B36-7 was wrong just like the SBD/CSX. I feel I have been pretty lucky with my purchases from Rapido. Two boxcars, one GP20 tank, Dash8-40CM, F59(which I did as a NCDOT unit) and I just got my DL M420. So far no problems with any of them. . FYI the front plow on the DL M420 is incorrect. It should have come with the large version that Rapido included with the BCR units. I’m dealing with their warranty department right now regarding a replacement plow. Trevor |
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Post by jbilbrey on May 27, 2024 18:39:22 GMT -8
So to avoid devolving any deeper into an R-word thing, it looks like we have three potential options. Probably in order of preference 1) Aurora, 2) Rapido, 3) Bachmann. Each has potential manufacturer baggage issues, and B isn’t even offering the MP version, just a generic. R is a roll of the dice, and A will depend on if they can do the drive correctly. I don’t get warm fuzzies pre ordering on any of them, but may take a gamble if I want a C36. Pretty much this. Plus, I'll be surprised if we see any of them by the 4th quarter of this year. I'm guessing the 1st quarter of 2025 at the earliest. AFAIK, we have only seen a "soft" announcement from Aurora with no road names, era's, etc. |
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