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Post by bdhicks on Nov 24, 2024 6:17:19 GMT -8
I see that Broadway Limited has announced they're doing a run of Chicago and Northwestern's streamlined class E 4-6-2 Pacifics. broadway-limited.com/collections/brass-hybrid-cnw-yellow-jacket-hoBoth units in 1942, 1944, and 1952 appearances, as well as foobies of the SAL Silver Meteor and the C&EI Dixie Flagler. These were built in 1917 and streamlined in 1941 and put into service on January 5, 1942, to pull the Minnesota 400 which met the Twin Cities 400 in Wyeville, WI and traveled east through Madison, Winona, MN, and Rochester to Mankato. 1617 pulled the train from Wyeville to Winona, and 1620 handled the Winona to Mankato leg. On April 30, 1950, they were replaced by diesels and demoted to pulling secondary trains. In 1952 they were renumbered to 617 and 620 and lasted on until 1956. Somewhat concerningly, the copy on the Broadway Limited website gets this history entirely wrong. The story about being replaced at the last minute by diesels happened to the class E-4 4-6-4 Hudsons originally destined for the Twin Cities 400, and the 1930 build date corresponds with the E-3 Pacifics. I'm unsure if CNW ever actually called the streamlined units class ES or if that's just a railfan designation. For the most part they continued to be referred to as Class E.
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Post by Baikal on Nov 24, 2024 13:21:14 GMT -8
I see that Broadway Limited has announced they're doing a run of Chicago and Northwestern's streamlined class E 4-6-2 Pacifics. broadway-limited.com/collections/brass-hybrid-cnw-yellow-jacket-hoBoth units in 1942, 1944, and 1952 appearances, as well as foobies of the SAL Silver Meteor and the C&EI Dixie Flagler. These were built in 1917 and streamlined in 1941 and put into service on January 5, 1942, to pull the Minnesota 400 which met the Twin Cities 400 in Wyeville, WI and traveled east through Madison, Winona, MN, and Rochester to Mankato. 1617 pulled the train from Wyeville to Winona, and 1620 handled the Winona to Mankato leg. On April 30, 1950, they were replaced by diesels and demoted to pulling secondary trains. In 1952 they were renumbered to 617 and 620 and lasted on until 1956. Somewhat concerningly, the copy on the Broadway Limited website gets this history entirely wrong. The story about being replaced at the last minute by diesels happened to the class E-4 4-6-4 Hudsons originally destined for the Twin Cities 400, and the 1930 build date corresponds with the E-3 Pacifics. I'm unsure if CNW ever actually called the streamlined units class ES or if that's just a railfan designation. For the most part they continued to be referred to as Class E.
Both units, nice.
Still no Harriman SP/UP/IC... 2-8-0. 400+(?) built. SP's ran everywhere: main, branches, worked as swithchers... some into the mid '50s.
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Post by lackawanna1223 on Nov 24, 2024 13:24:57 GMT -8
Honestly if they were doing a CNW steamer, I would’ve been interested in an R1 4-6-0. Incredibly common and it would make a good generic ten wheeler for those of us who freelance. Oh well, the gaudy usually wins out.
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Post by cpr4200 on Nov 24, 2024 13:53:43 GMT -8
Not in my wheelhouse but it looks like a great model. I'm still drooling over the New Haven I-4's.
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Post by NYSW3614 on Nov 24, 2024 18:23:22 GMT -8
There were 2 of these things and they're doing them??? Gives me some hope they'd consider the DL&W stream-styled Pacifics.
One can dream...
Joshua
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Post by bdhicks on Nov 24, 2024 19:20:23 GMT -8
I do think it would've made more sense to do the nine streamlined E-4s, but then again those seem to have been done in brass more often than the streamlined Es, so maybe not. As for me, even though it was well before my time I grew up along the route of the Minnesota 400 and have thought several times about trying to model it. I guess now I have to figure out the rest of the consist.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Nov 25, 2024 4:23:32 GMT -8
There were 2 of these things and they're doing them??? Gives me some hope they'd consider the DL&W stream-styled Pacifics. One can dream... Joshua It's amazing what gets done and what doesn't. For example, we now have a new model of the CF7 coming (ostensibly to replace the now-defunct Athearn / Rail Power Products CF7), but I have it on good authority another manufacturer had/has advanced plans to make one too and may or may not end up announcing it too... Yet still no SW1001 of which there were basically just as many (230 SW1001, 233 CF7s), in probably just as many different schemes, or maybe even more...
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Post by jbilbrey on Nov 25, 2024 11:57:30 GMT -8
Both units, nice. Still no Harriman SP/UP/IC... 2-8-0. 400+(?) built. SP's ran everywhere: main, branches, worked as swithchers... some into the mid '50s. I absolutely agree with you. I keep hoping that some one would do a SP 2-8-0 or 2-8-2 that doesn't cost an arm and a leg but so far - crickets. I do realize that Sunset has announced a new run of SP C-11's and C-12's, but $2k is not exactly cheap. And, they were on the roster [leased from the SSW] for a relatively short period of time. Meanwhile, I at least have a D-1 Decapod that I finished couple months ago. While not common, it is paid for.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Nov 25, 2024 12:48:53 GMT -8
On the subject of Harriman 2-8-0's, PFM brought in 3090 of a UP version. And also 4725 of the Ma & Pa version. And also 8448 of the Santa Fe version.
They seemed to sell quite well over time.
Ed
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Post by wjstix on Nov 25, 2024 14:18:40 GMT -8
I believe the "S" in "ES" meant "Superheated".
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Post by ictom on Nov 26, 2024 9:04:39 GMT -8
Not in my wheelhouse but it looks like a great model. I'm still drooling over the New Haven I-4's. Do you mean I-5s? The I-4 was made back in Paragon 2, but it was a Pacific. I was able to find one awhile back from BrassTrains.com. The New Haven I-4 was the most badass-looking Pacific I've ever seen, and I've always hated Pacifics. The I-5 is a streamlined 4-6-4 Hudson and Broadway released a Paragon 4 version earlier this year. It's a gorgeous loco with a high-class appearance in black with chrome drivers. Broadway still has several available in their Outlet Store, too. It's worth it to join the Conductors Club just to get a 10% discount on the Outlet Store, more than paying for itself with one purchase of an I-5.
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Post by cpr4200 on Nov 26, 2024 10:04:20 GMT -8
I meant I-4, although I've always thought the I-5's would have looked cool without the streamlining. In fact, I fumbled an I-4 for $450 on ebay last night!
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