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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 18, 2014 21:55:44 GMT -8
Shown on the Athearn web site this evening...
Bunch of roads, no SP, and no "G" in the part number.
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Post by carrman on Jul 18, 2014 22:11:24 GMT -8
Yes!!!!!!
Dave
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Jul 18, 2014 22:47:26 GMT -8
The prices are not too bad either even with DCC & sound. I'm looking forward to hearing the reviews on the models. Hopefully they'll offer undecorated versions or a Mopac version in the future.
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Post by tommyrsp on Jul 18, 2014 22:52:30 GMT -8
Too bad it isn`t in Genesis, but maybe this will give Roco a chance?
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Post by bdhicks on Jul 18, 2014 23:04:54 GMT -8
Are these the first RTR with sound?
I'm a bit surprised they're not doing them in Genesis, but since I need SD40s for project starting points more than running out of the box I'm not going to complain.
That said, it'd be nice if they could do a run of DMEs sooner rather than later.
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Post by soo760 on Jul 19, 2014 3:23:27 GMT -8
Interesting pricing on this model. The cost of DCC and sound is only $50 additional and the incremental cost is only around $30 since you don't have to buy a decoder. This makes the decison on sound vs no sound a lot easier.
Mike Cleary
Roberts, Wisconsin
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Post by ambluco on Jul 19, 2014 3:53:28 GMT -8
Includes high hood for N&W.
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Post by roadkill on Jul 19, 2014 4:07:53 GMT -8
Yes!!! I'll have to ask them about undecs when I go to the show later today.
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Post by drolsen on Jul 19, 2014 4:17:17 GMT -8
Roger, I'm definitely interested in 3 or 4 undecs too - please pass that along to them. Thanks!
Dave
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 4:53:21 GMT -8
Shame they aren't going Genesis - disappointed. If it is same quality as the SD45T-2's and has the SP light package and plow, I would probably be satisfied.
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Post by notabob on Jul 19, 2014 4:56:03 GMT -8
I'm curious if the sound versions use a reduced function tsunami, a-la Bachmann's sound value decoders.
In any case, the BNSF version holds promise. Not because I need it, but because it's intentionally representing ex-CN units, which seems to be a clear indication that a CN variant is in the works for a future run. Which I wouldn't mind getting when it comes.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 19, 2014 4:59:45 GMT -8
The Tunnel Motors are pretty nice even if not Genesis.
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 5:12:32 GMT -8
The Athearn Genesis engines have Tsunami decoders which are paired down - at least in terms of fewer horn sounds. Don't know if they've paired them down further for Athearn.
I agree, the Tunnel Motors from Athearn are nice - and have always felt they blurred the lines between the RTR line and the Genesis line. The newer SD45T-2's are very nearly Genesis save motor and a few additional details - I don't think mine have MU hoses for example.
Here is a quote from the new SD40 listing:
"Many new options available, such as alternate noses, numberboards, rear headlights, grilles, dynamic brakes, truck sideframes, air reservoirs, battery box doors, etc. – Several offered in plastic for the first time".
So I note no SP in the first announcement but I'm already saving up for at least 3 Genesis GP40-2's this fall, so it may be next year for the SP SD40's which I assume Athearn (being SP concentric) will run and with the alternate noses I'll be looking for the SP light package like they have done on the RTR SD45 and tunnel motors. I'd like to see them do both the rebuilt version for the 80's and original version for the late 60's and 70's. Certainly there are things to budget for before those come out so while I wish SP was in the first run, it would be better for me if it is a few more months off.
Jim
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jul 19, 2014 5:27:01 GMT -8
The Tunnel Motors are pretty nice even if not Genesis. Tunnel motors are beautiful. $135/185 sticker for the SD40 is 5 higher than last new rtr (sd50)   |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 5:46:25 GMT -8
The Tunnel Motors are pretty nice even if not Genesis. Tunnel motors are beautiful. $135/185 sticker for the SD40 is 5 higher than last new rtr (sd50) It seems Athearn has been somewhat holding the line on prices for re-runs of the RTR SD45 and SD45T-2 as well as reruns of some Genesis engines. So hopefully the newly tooled SD40 will reflect improvements on the current higher end RTR loco's. The sound option is one nice improvement - hopefully a better motor. Chris Palmerez commented how motor was important to sound units so hopefully that logic is part of these new SD40's. If anyone at the show talks to Athearn, perhaps they can as about future plans for the SD40 - ala SP etc. Cheers, Jim |
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Post by roadkill on Jul 19, 2014 6:02:17 GMT -8
Oh, and here's to hoping Athearn does Detroit Edison. Now if we could just get someone to make a Fruehauf 125t unit train gondola.
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 6:39:21 GMT -8
So how much is not "genesis" ?
All I see is a genesis without the name and motor?
And with sound as an option ?
Cheaper by what 50-75 bucks?
I'd be stupid not to get one... Not a question a statement lol!
I think Athearn has been using more brass detail parts these past couple of years than any other big name lately.
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Post by jbilbrey on Jul 19, 2014 6:53:09 GMT -8
I don't think the Athearn announcement of the SD40 is going be a surprise to many. However, it is a welcome addition especially with the statement "•All-New tooling" on their website. That should mean that some features (such as tread on the walkways - something that could not be easily added to the ex-RPP shell) should be on this model. I'm glad that I never purchased any the prior releases of SD40's especially in the last month or so [to go along with Intermountain's SD40-2].
James Bilbrey
LaVergne, TN
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Post by roadkill on Jul 19, 2014 6:59:23 GMT -8
I have 2 prior release SD40's that'll get parted out with this announcement.
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Post by bdhicks on Jul 19, 2014 7:43:02 GMT -8
Hard to tell, but the walkway looks pretty smooth on the picture at the Athearn website and in jlwii2000's video.
The video mentions that they'll be offering a Genesis motor kit, so I guess that means it doesn't come with a Genesis motor.
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 7:44:59 GMT -8
I don't think the Athearn announcement of the SD40 is going be a surprise to many. However, it is a welcome addition especially with the statement "•All-New tooling" on their website. That should mean that some features (such as tread on the walkways - something that could not be easily added to the ex-RPP shell) should be on this model. I'm glad that I never purchased any the prior releases of SD40's especially in the last month or so [to go along with Intermountain's SD40-2]. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN No surprise to me either. I've had opportunities to pick up the RPP based Athearn SD40's in the past couple years but decided to aim my resources at adding a few more SD45T-2's and wait for an improved version. Glad I did now that the retooled version is official. Now just gotta wait for Athearn to announce the SP version - expect they'll do the original first and the rebuilt later. Wait wait wait... patience! As for motor, since Chris Palmerez made a big deal about motors on the sound versions, hopefully that is part of the new version - something improved. |
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Post by Donnell Wells on Jul 19, 2014 7:57:53 GMT -8
So how much is not "genesis" ? All I see is a genesis without the name and motor? And with sound as an option ? Cheaper by what 50-75 bucks? I'd be stupid not to get one... Not a question a statement lol! I think Athearn has been using more brass detail parts these past couple of years than any other big name lately.
I'm with you. Genesis quality at RTR pricing is smart marketing in today's economy. It maintains the affordability of our hobby, at least as far as locomotives are concerned. I'd be up for a pair on BN units.
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 8:04:30 GMT -8
So how much is not "genesis" ? All I see is a genesis without the name and motor? And with sound as an option ? Cheaper by what 50-75 bucks? I'd be stupid not to get one... Not a question a statement lol! I think Athearn has been using more brass detail parts these past couple of years than any other big name lately.
I'm with you. Genesis quality at RTR pricing is smart marketing in today's economy. It maintains the affordability of our hobby, at least as far as locomotives are concerned. I'd be up for a pair on BN units.
DonnellLol I just put my NS sd40-2 on eBay to go towards a bnsf but UP sure does look good too And I'll take a roller version since I bought a crap load of kato old style motors . |
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 8:18:58 GMT -8
Bring back that mashima motor for genesis and let the rtr have the roco motor then all will be win win.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 19, 2014 9:04:33 GMT -8
If anyone at the show talks to Athearn, perhaps they can as about future plans for the SD40 - ala SP etc. And SDP40's. Ed |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 9:59:15 GMT -8
I agree, the Tunnel Motors from Athearn are nice - and have always felt they blurred the lines between the RTR line and the Genesis line. The newer SD45T-2's are very nearly Genesis save motor and a few additional details - I don't think mine have MU hoses for example. \ The upgraded SW1500s are also close to Genesis quality. And the SW1000's... those had a different motor, better than the average RTR Athearn motor at the time. I've got two of the D&RGW S1000's from the 1st run. Nice switchers. |
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Post by roadkill on Jul 19, 2014 10:00:06 GMT -8
I have a Rock Island maroon SW1500 and it's a sweet runner.
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Post by carrman on Jul 19, 2014 10:50:17 GMT -8
Was just confirmed there is no tread plate on the new SD40.
Dave
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 11:00:11 GMT -8
No tread plate won't be a deal breaker for I can over look that but can they alter the tooling dies to aquire the knurled tread?? I mean march 2015 is a ways off and enough time to make that change.. Still getting one no matter what.
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jul 19, 2014 11:07:32 GMT -8
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