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Post by chicagopcclcar on Feb 19, 2015 11:35:08 GMT -8
I read that there are 40 container ships stranded off the western coast due to the labor action.....the dock strike. Has anyone heard that companies have said that any of our dearly awaited models are involved?
DH
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Post by hovehicle on Feb 19, 2015 12:10:02 GMT -8
We'll see if the Genesis UP/NS SD70M flared will make it on time or be delayed another 2 months.
Vito L.
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Post by TBird1958 on Feb 19, 2015 12:13:00 GMT -8
Read the X58 post.
I'm sure Tangent isn't the only company.
It's a pretty big mess, the company I work for is suffering from a lack of product due to West Coast post delay. We have 15-20 Cans worth of light fixtures in sitting in Elliott Bay within sight of our warehouse, further, ships are not leaving Asian ports. Similar for out Portland, OR warehouse.
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Post by calzephyr on Feb 19, 2015 12:17:48 GMT -8
We'll see if the Genesis UP/NS SD70M flared will make it on time or be delayed another 2 months. Vito L. They are due in soon so it is possible they are loaded on a cargo ship that is parked. I feel sorry for the workers since the average salary has been quoted as $140,000 a year. Yes part of that is overtime, but it is hard to believe they could live in LA or San Francisco on that money. In the meantime, customers waiting on products making half that are wondering how you get those jobs. Larry |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 19, 2015 12:37:47 GMT -8
I did some quick checking and it appears the Washington DC area has a higher cost of living (area where I live). I can only imagine would it would be like to struggle along at 140k!
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Post by bar on Feb 19, 2015 12:47:57 GMT -8
Slowdown, not a strike. Dockworkers working, just not full shifts.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Feb 19, 2015 12:53:00 GMT -8
How come there isn't an Executive Order for X58 boxcar emergencies? Mine are on order, along with some gons, and I'm feeling feverish. Think it may be contagious, and there's no vaccine...
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Post by scl1234 on Feb 19, 2015 12:53:15 GMT -8
Highly likely the Atlas GP40s, originally slated for 4Q '14 delivery, are also stuck there...at least that is the rumor as no one at Atlas is certain what week of March, perhaps April, they'll arrive.
As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher).
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 12:57:04 GMT -8
Slowdown, not a strike. Dockworkers working, just not full shifts. Same nonsense |
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 12:58:16 GMT -8
Highly likely the Atlas GP40s, originally slated for 4Q '14 delivery, are also stuck there...at least that is the rumor as no one at Atlas is certain what week of March, perhaps April, they'll arrive. As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher). That stat is nonsense 60 % less than where? Chicago, New York, Boston, etcetera? No. |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 19, 2015 13:07:17 GMT -8
As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher). Based on the figures I just googled, DC area residents must have ~$0.50 worth of purchasing power then. No wonder I don't have much left to spend on trains. How do I apply for a dock workers job? |
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Post by scl1234 on Feb 19, 2015 13:34:19 GMT -8
Highly likely the Atlas GP40s, originally slated for 4Q '14 delivery, are also stuck there...at least that is the rumor as no one at Atlas is certain what week of March, perhaps April, they'll arrive. As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher). 60 % less than where? Chicago, New York, Boston, etcetera? Those places you mention all have high population density and low purchasing power to match. You didn't comprehend. It's not "60% less" rather you get 40 percent less of whatever you buy if $1 only buys you ~$0.60 worth of goods. |
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 13:57:47 GMT -8
As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher). Based on the figures I just googled, DC area residents must have ~$0.50 worth of purchasing power then. No wonder I don't have much left to spend on trains. How do I apply for a dock workers job? Amen brother $145,000 + a year Full benefits Nice pension Protected by local state and fed govt agencies The best case is we have the Chinese finish widening the canal then bypass the crazy expensive west coast ports for some in the east very hungry for the business and work. Can't come soon enough. |
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 14:00:02 GMT -8
60 % less than where? Chicago, New York, Boston, etcetera? Those places you mention all have high population density and low purchasing power to match. You didn't comprehend. It's not "60% less" rather you get 40 percent less of whatever you buy if $1 only buys you ~$0.60 worth of goods. That makes absolutely no sense So a dollar is worth a dollars in 2015 where in the USA? You can't say a dollar doesn't by a dollars worth where the vast majority of Americans live. What is buys there is what the dollar is worth! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 14:04:33 GMT -8
Highly likely the Atlas GP40s, originally slated for 4Q '14 delivery, are also stuck there...at least that is the rumor as no one at Atlas is certain what week of March, perhaps April, they'll arrive. As for California dock worker wages, keep in mind each dollar out there only has ~$0.60 worth of purchasing power (population density drives the price of everything higher). That makes no sense. $0.60 vs. where? Median Household Income in Los Angeles about $49,000 / yr. The dockworkers are making an average of $140,000 plus great health (value approx $40,000) and retirement plans. RS (geographer) |
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Post by dti406 on Feb 19, 2015 16:32:38 GMT -8
Based on the figures I just googled, DC area residents must have ~$0.50 worth of purchasing power then. No wonder I don't have much left to spend on trains. How do I apply for a dock workers job? Amen brother $145,000 + a year Full benefits Nice pension Protected by local state and fed govt agencies The best case is we have the Chinese finish widening the canal then bypass the crazy expensive west coast ports for some in the east very hungry for the business and work. Can't come soon enough. Not going to happen, ports on the East Coast are not deep enough to take the giant container ships, those babies are going to Europe not the US. By the way the only costs that are higher in CA are housing and gasoline, everything else is comparable to costs in the rest of the US and many fresh fruit and vegitables are cheaper. Rick J |
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Post by stevef45 on Feb 19, 2015 17:59:40 GMT -8
The port of Newark has been dredged to allow the post panamax ships and they are also raising the Bayonne bridge to allow taller ships to clear it.
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 18:23:57 GMT -8
Amen brother $145,000 + a year Full benefits Nice pension Protected by local state and fed govt agencies The best case is we have the Chinese finish widening the canal then bypass the crazy expensive west coast ports for some in the east very hungry for the business and work. Can't come soon enough. Not going to happen, ports on the East Coast are not deep enough to take the giant container ships, those babies are going to Europe not the US. By the way the only costs that are higher in CA are housing and gasoline, everything else is comparable to costs in the rest of the US and many fresh fruit and vegitables are cheaper. Rick J Wrong. Please investigate before saying not going to happen. Norfolk and Newport News Port Elizabeth Other ports further south like Jacksonville are working on them The Panama canal is not being widened just to send ships from China to Europe. |
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Post by atsfan on Feb 19, 2015 18:27:43 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on Feb 20, 2015 6:30:16 GMT -8
Not only that, the Panama canal is being widened too. I was just reading about the project.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 20, 2015 13:58:49 GMT -8
Nows the time to build SIRT ! ....but in any event, nows a great time to grab the ejection seat lever....and bail out of the hobby !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 14:07:08 GMT -8
Nows(sic) the time to build SIRT ! ....but in any event, nows(sic) a great time to grab the ejection seat lever....and bail out of the hobby ! Staten Island Rapid Transit? |
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Post by NS4122 on Feb 21, 2015 9:20:36 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on Feb 21, 2015 9:30:34 GMT -8
..but in any event, nows a great time to grab the ejection seat lever....and bail out of the hobby ! Somehow I'm just guessing that no one is going to follow that advise. |
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Post by atsfan on Feb 21, 2015 14:32:54 GMT -8
..but in any event, nows a great time to grab the ejection seat lever....and bail out of the hobby ! Somehow I'm just guessing that no one is going to follow that advise. I am not ejecting. Adjusting altitude and air speed But not ejecting |
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Post by stevef45 on Feb 21, 2015 20:09:52 GMT -8
a local tv news said it could take upwards of 6 months or more just to catch up on the backlog of ships waiting to dock. |
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Post by nebrzephyr on Feb 22, 2015 6:57:41 GMT -8
a local tv news said it could take upwards of 6 months or more just to catch up on the backlog of ships waiting to dock. I also read in Saturday's paper that another reason for slow catch up on the backlog is lack of semi trucks. You'd never know there was a "shortage" by the numbers of semi's on I80 here in Nebraska-Iowa.  Bob |
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Post by stevef45 on Feb 22, 2015 16:52:10 GMT -8
a local tv news said it could take upwards of 6 months or more just to catch up on the backlog of ships waiting to dock. I also read in Saturday's paper that another reason for slow catch up on the backlog is lack of semi trucks. You'd never know there was a "shortage" by the numbers of semi's on I80 here in Nebraska-Iowa. Bob Here in NJ, some of the ports have these racks that hold the trailer frames that carry this cargo containers, none of these racks have any trailers on them. I used to see a few here and there, but they have been empty for a long time. And there better not be someone saying there is a container shortage, there are mountains of them in Newark, NJ some 10 high and just rows upon rows deep. |
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Post by jaygee on Mar 25, 2015 13:30:09 GMT -8
SIRT...Siberian International Rail Tunnel. See their website. But given the weirded out relation betwixt Barry and rootin' tootin' Putin...I ain't holding my breath !
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