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Post by fr8kar on Apr 2, 2015 17:47:23 GMT -8
One of the industries located alongside my prototype was Stauffer Chemical. Another local customer received chlorine from Occidental Chemical. So in the process of locating cars to serve these industries, I have found that Atlas offered their ACF 17,360 gallon tank car in both Stauffer and Hooker (Occidental) schemes. I'm more familiar with the contemporary versions of these cars, which are pretty plain other than the required stenciling. I see an opportunity to use some of these more colorful schemes, but were they still around in the 80s?
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 3, 2015 12:59:14 GMT -8
Ryan, in general the billboard tank cars for placarded hazardous materials were no longer being painted that way by the late 1960's or early 70's. Two factors killed them, one the cost of applying, and then maintaining the advertising, dirty, damaged cars with the company's logo did not portray the company positively. The bigger factor, was the news at 11 issue, the pictures of the leaking chlorine car, or other hazardous material burning on the evening news with the company logo pictured prominently did not sit well with the public relations or legal departments. Since cars were generally on a ten year hydrostatic test cycle in those days, the cars were usually repainted when tested. They went from decorated cars to plain black, white or gray then, with only the legally mandated stenciling.
There are exceptions, the Industrial Gas business for example, but generally the "nasties" went incognito early. Chlorine pretty much is at the top of the ugly products list.
Bill
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Post by fr8kar on Apr 4, 2015 10:30:58 GMT -8
Thanks, Bill. The more I look into this, the less I see myself using either a billboard Hooker tank or a Stauffer tank. The Stauffer plant produced hydrochloric acid, so the Atlas tank won't work at all (but my Athearn acid tanks sure will). Love Canal as much as anything - including the Occidental merger - probably hastened the repainting of Hooker cars, so I might be able to squeeze one in the early 80s but I think it would be stretching the limits of plausibility to have one in the late 80s.
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Post by WP 257 on Apr 4, 2015 12:47:35 GMT -8
I looked into this a little bit in the past: Hooker actually went bankrupt and was resold, however the former Hooker reporting marks are or were still in use for many years after the bankruptcy, because the evening news people don't check reporting marks--lol.
I really liked the neat Hooker orange tank cars of the 1940's era paint schemes...until I learned what they were responsible for at Love Canal, then I got rid of them.
Had them in large scale running outside...once upon a time.
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 4, 2015 13:53:45 GMT -8
Ryan: Atlas did runs of the gray Occi-Chem Cars in just about every run of their ACF design 17,300 gallon made since 2001. Only difference was one run did not have the black belly band. Any black ACFX chlorine car would do for Stauffer. The SHPX marks were dated, as ACF made a concerted effort in the 70's and early 80's to re-stencil all the Full service lease fleet into the ACFX marks. So by the late 1980's they would be ACFX Cars. Of course, after the transfer of the ACFX lease fleet by Carl Icahn to GE Credit in the late 1990's, the SHPX mark, and Shippers Car Line was reborn.
Bill
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