Exactrail 296 new items:

[mkulak]

I bought my copy of MR today at my local hobby shop and was reading the list of cars and locos Exactrail plans/wants to make in the future. Several of the freight cars did peak my interest. I did not see any tank cars, double stack cars, or coil cars listed but I may have missed them and might find them after reviewing the list a few more times, and just a note: get out your magnifying glass because you are going to need it! The locos I found on the list were interesting: C30-7, SD40-2, and C36-7. While the C30-7 is back in demand and the C36-7 is welcome and needed but I really can't fathom why they would want to make a SD40-2 ? It is already done by Athearn, Kato, and IM. I can think of several other types of locos that are needed ex: U25C than another SD40-2. As for the freight cars their are quite a few variations of same cars with different doors, etc but overall not a bad list of cars. If you get a chance check out the list and see if a car you want is listed on it.

[bncr78]

I, too, bought a copy of MR today, just to see the Exact Rail ad. There is no/no way they are actually planning to produce all of those. I suspect it is mainly a way to get attention - - it obviously worked!

[sd80macs]

I am sure every manufacturer can show you a list like that of items they would like to do. But a list of items a manufacturer would like to offer and the ones that actually will make money for the Co. are two different things.

[mkulak]

I guess they are thinking that if modelers see the car/loco they really want on the list they will email/facebook them about the car and make their decision a bit easier!

[Deleted]

Not a bad strategy...IMO.

[rhpd42002]

I've yet to see the list, but I can't really think of any cars I Really, Really want, except for those neat looking helium cars.
Now as far as locos, I can only think of two I want.
An updated SW-1 and a C-415.

[Dewey3]

May 3, 2012 16:55:06 GMT -8 rhpd42002 said:

I've yet to see the list, but I can't really think of any cars I Really, Really want, except for those neat looking helium cars.
Now as far as locos, I can only think of two I want.
An updated SW-1 and a C-415.

Me, too - in ROCK ISLAND paint !!!

[railfan4life]

Only time will tell, but Exactrail will likely do some of the items on their list and some other ones not on their list before they do everything on that list. The only thing for certain, is whatever they do will please some people and some others will find glaring mistakes with the model.

I am surprised they listed the SD40-2 though. It has been done a lot already (BLI also did a couple different versions with sound).

Kevin

[Deleted]

Were there any coal hoppers on the list, by chance?

[el3637]

May 3, 2012 17:14:36 GMT -8 @mopac1 said:

Were there any coal hoppers on the list, by chance?

I took the ad to be nothing but wallpaper and only glanced at it... I'd love to see Exactrail or Tangent do the N&W H-10 hopper, but I don't think either of them have it in their plans. The only potential H-10 is Smokey Mountain Model Works in resin, which is probably a ways off. The thing is, as much as I like resin kits and enjoy building them, I could see buying 40, 50 H-10s if they were RTRs or even styrene kits. I can't see buying and building that many resin kits of a single car type. Heck, I have probably 60 of the Bowser H-11s and have only managed to build half of them.

The H-10 is a car anybody east of the Miss. modeling 1960 to 1980 could use in multiple, but if you're not an N&W modeler it's "just another 70 ton hopper" and I imagine more than one manufacturer thinks it's too similar to the already-done BLI H-2 to bother with. For "similar" cars, it's pretty much impossible to kitbash one out of the other, and the H2s were largely out of revenue service by the 70s. Also Bowser bought stewart and inherited three more 70-ton rib-side hoppers - the USRA car, the PRR H-37, and PRR H-39. Athearn has come a long way but doing a strictly eastern prototype probably isn't on their short list.

Anyway if anybody spotted the H-10 on Exactrail's wallpaper, let me know. Not that it means they're gonna do it, or do it soon, but it would be interesting to know it even made the cut of 289.

Andy

[mkulak]

Yes, there are several hoppers mentioned as well as ballast hopper and modern coal gons. The one that comes to mind was an H27. I went over it a few times again and in the heavily darkend area were two more locomotives:

SW1200 and SW1

so you might get your wish for an updated SW-1.

If I get some time I will try and break it down a bit. As said before their are cars with of the same type but with different doors, ends, etc. They do mention a partial waffle boxcar and an elongated waffle boxcar, so their are two more cars of interest.

[carrman]

Remember, we still need a really great SD40-2. We've never gotten one of these yet.


Dave

[KIM]

I'm really impressed with them. For a new company, they quality and offerings are much better than I would have expected. I've heard a few complaints, but no company is perfect, and I've also heard that they're addressing those complaints. I have N scale versions of several of their cars, and the detail rivals HO. I do hope they bring out all the units that they say, and I think they'll do their best to honor their statements.

[rhpd42002]

Is their list anywhere else, other than an ad in MR?

As I like switchers, an SW-1200 wouldn't hurt my feelings either!!

[mkulak]

Funnel Fan over on Trainorders broke down the list of cars that Exactrail had on its "coming soon" ad in MR this past month:

286. ACF Box Car 4928
065. ACF Box Car 5077 Plate B
100. ACF Box Car 5080
091. ACF Box Car 5098 Combo Door
141. ACF Box Car 5139
041. ACF Box Car 6385
092. ACF Box Car 6545 Double Sheathed
150. ACF Covered Hopper 1790
170. ACF Covered Hopper 1892
219. ACF Covered Hopper 1958
066. ACF Covered Hopper 1970
234. ACF Covered Hopper 2006
131. ACF Covered Hopper 2040
275. ACF Covered Hopper 2500
029. ACF Covered Hopper 2700
285. ACF Covered Hopper 2765
021. ACF Covered Hopper 2828
127. ACF Covered Hopper 2927
140. ACF Covered Hopper 2927
224. ACF Covered Hopper 2970
249. ACF Covered Hopper 2980
145. ACF Hopper 2100
093. ACF Hopper 2556
129. ACF Hopper 2583
079. ACF Hopper 2608
081. ACF Hopper 2700
016. ACF Hopper 2750
176. ACF Hopper 2755
168. ACF Hopper 3640 "Coalveyer"
106. ACF Hopper 30’6” Hart Selective Ballast Car
179. ACF Hopper 33’ 2-Bay
038. ACF Hopper 34’8”
187. ACF Hopper 40’8” 3-Bay
211. ACF Hopper 41’ Hart Selective Ballast Car
052. ACF Hopper 42’ Hart Selective Ballast Car
137. ACF Hopper 45’ 3-Bay
095. Albina-Built Hopper 3737 UP
040. Berwick Box Car 5054 Plate C
210. Berwick Box Car 5077 Plate B
069. Berwick Box Car 5081
232. Berwick Box Car 5277 Golden Tye-Berwick Kit
083. Berwick Box Car 5277 Plug Door
194. Berwick Box Car 5277 Waffle
149. Berwick Box Car 5277
037. Berwick Box Car 5308 Plug Door
057. Berwick Box Car 5486 Partial Waffle
159. Berwick Box Car 7321 Waffle
206. Berwick Box Car 7327
020. Berwick Box Car 7400
263. Bethlehem Hopper 975
028. Bethlehem Hopper 2080
059. Bethlehem Hopper 2603
250. Bethlehem Hopper 2622
123. Bethlehem Hopper 2700
226. Bethlehem Hopper 2868
233. Bethlehem Hopper 3483
199. Bethlehem Hopper 3565
147. Bethlehem Hopper 3712
053. Bethlehem Hopper 3737
230. Bethlehem Hopper 4000 Re-Built
154. C&O Hopper 2866
243. CNCF Box Car 5077
231. CNCF Box Car 5277
278. Darby Hopper 2200 2-Bay
186. Dispatch Shop Hopper 2210
033. EMD Locomotive NW2 "Written as ""NWZ"", presumed to be a NW2"
030. EMD Locomotive SD40
229. EMD Locomotive SD40-2
256. EMD Locomotive SW1
254. EMD Locomotive SW1200
218. Emons Box Car 5277
049. Evans Box Car 5277 Golden Tye-Evans Kit
193. FMC Box Car 503 Double Door
162. FMC Box Car 4131 Plate B SP Signature
075. FMC Box Car 5077 Double 8’ Plug Door
228. FMC Box Car 5077 Double Door
099. FMC Box Car 5077 Offset Double Door
180. FMC Box Car 5077
200. FMC Box Car 5080 Double Door Union Pacific Signature
009. FMC Box Car 5151 12’ Plug Door
253. FMC Box Car 5234 Double Door Double Sheathed
183. FMC Box Car 5243 Single Door (Reduced Door)
173. FMC Box Car 5258 (Reduced Door)
050. FMC Box Car 5272
111. FMC Box Car 5277 12’ Plug Door
090. FMC Box Car 5277 12’ Plug Door (Extended Height)
087. FMC Box Car 5277 Plug Door
056. FMC Box Car 5283 (Reduced Door)
259. FMC Box Car 5283 10’ Plug Door
151. FMC Box Car 5283 Double Door
204. FMC Box Car 5283 Partial Waffle
203. FMC Box Car 5295
048. FMC Box Car 5322 Double 8’ Plug Door
248. FMC Box Car 5327 12’ Plug Door
201. FMC Box Car 5337 (Extended Height)
042. FMC Box Car 5347 6’ and 10’ Double Door
252. FMC Box Car 5347 Double Door
242. FMC Box Car 5347
215. FMC Box Car 5355
267. FMC Box Car 5357 12’ Plug Door (Extended Height)
209. FMC Box Car 5360
008. FMC Box Car 5395 (Extended Height)
270. FMC Box Car 6024 Double V-Latch Plug Door Partial Waffle
255. FMC Box Car 6047 12’ Plug Door (Extended Height)
047. FMC Box Car 6089 Double 8’ Plug Door
216. FMC Box Car 6156 Double Door
251. FMC Box Car 6156 Double 8’ Plug Door MDW Signature
184. FMC Box Car 6163 Double 8’ Plug Door Milwaukee Road Signature
167. FMC Box Car 6189 Double 8’ Plug Door Union Pacific Signature
063. FMC Box Car 6289 Double 8’ Plug Door
064. FMC Box Car 6307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C+
006. FMC Box Car 6348 12’ Plug Door, Santa Fe Signature
085. FMC Box Car 6348 Partial Waffle Santa Fe Signature
138. FMC Box Car 6368 Partial Waffle Santa Fe Signature
178. FMC Box Car 6389 Double Door (Extended Height)
238. FMC Box Car 6468 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F
282. FMC Box Car 6554 6’ and 10’ Youngstown Double Door Double Sheathed
115. FMC Box Car 6589 6’ and 10’ Youngstown Double Door Outside Braced
227. FMC Box Car 6589
157. FMC Box Car 7340
031. FMC Box Car 7468 Double 8’ Door, Double Sheathed
055. FMC Hopper 4200
197. GATC Hopper 2700
277. GE Locomotive C30-7
132. GE Locomotive C36-7
120. Greenville Hopper 1265
118. Greenville Hopper 1700
284. Greenville Hopper 2460
015. Greenville Hopper 3420
241. Greenville Hopper 3650
005. Greenville Hopper 4000 3-Bay
003. GSC Flat Car 42’-6”
244. GSC Flat Car 53’-6” with 43’-3” Truck Centers
110. GSC Flat Car 60’-0” with 48’-8” Truck Centers
281. GSC Flat Car 60’-0” with 49’-9” Truck Centers
240. Gunderson Box Car 5087 12’ Plug Door KCS Signature
113. Gunderson Box Car 5277 12’ Plug Door CN Signature
124. Gunderson Box Car 5327 10’-4” Plug Door
191. Gunderson Box Car 5357 12’ Plug Door
185. Gunderson Box Car 5997 Double Door
014. Gunderson Box Car 6236 Double 8’ Plug Door
208. Gunderson Box Car 6269 12’ Plug Door
269. Gunderson Box Car 6354 Double Plug Door NS Signature
025. Gunderson Box Car 6504 12’ Plug Door
094. Gunderson Box Car 6504 12’ Plug Door KCS Signature
078. Gunderson Box Car 6538 Double Door
080. Gunderson Box Car 6646 Double Door IBT Signature
045. Gunderson Box Car 7526 Double 8’ Plug Door
136. Gunderson Box Car 7571 Double 8’ Plug Door
169. Gunderson Box Car 7577 Double 8’ Plug Door
076. Gunderson C. Box Car 6301 12’ Plug Door
264. Gunderson C. Box Car 6663 Double Door
070. Gunderson C. Box Car 7285 Double 8’ Plug Door
237. Gunderson C. Box Car 7550 Double 8’ Plug Door
213. Gunderson C. Box Car 7580 12’ Plug Door
279. Midwest FC Hopper 2800 3-Bay
287. NSC Box Car 3712 6’ Youngstown Door CN Signature
143. NSC Box Car 3900 8’ Youngstown Door CP Signature
062. NSC Box Car 4208 Plug Door Double Sheathed
119. NSC Box Car 5092 12’ Plug Door
265. NSC Box Car 5092 9’ Double Sheathed, V-Plug Door
189. NSC Box Car 5092 9’ Plug Door
073. NSC Box Car 5092 9’ Plug Door Double Sheathed
114. NSC Box Car 5092 Combination Door, Double Sheathed
207. NSC Box Car 5092 Double Sheathed Plate C BC Rail Signature
054. NSC Box Car 5111 10’ Plug Door Plate C
034. NSC Box Car 5140 9’ Plug Door Double Sheathed
220. NSC Box Car 5150 6’ and 10’ Double YSD Door GTW
039. NSC Box Car 5182 10’ Plug Door GTW Signature
260. NSC Box Car 5204 9’ Plug Door
135. NSC Box Car 5272 10’ Plug Door
096. NSC Box Car 5277 10’ Plug Door
044. NSC Box Car 5300 Double Sheathed Plate C
018. NSC Box Car 5300 8’ Plug, 10’ Combination Door Plate C
177. NSC Box Car 5380 Double 9’ Plug Door
035. NSC Box Car 5438 Double Door
148. NSC Box Car 5514 Double Sheathed YSD V-Latch Door
212. NSC Box Car 6219 Plate F
257. NSC Box Car 6264 10’ Chief Transportation Products Plug Door Plate F TTX
274. NSC Box Car 6475 6’ and 10’ YSD Sliders Plate F
181. NSC Box Car 7538 Plate F TTX Signature
101. NSC Box Car 7550 Double 8’ Door Plate F
007. NSC Box Car 7565 12’ Stanrail Plug Door NS Signature
074. NSC Box Car 7599 Double 8’ 7-Panel Door
112. NSC Box Car 7630 Double 8’ Door
190. NSC Box Car 7770 10’-6” Plug Door CP Signature
188. NSC Covered Hopper 2900 Aluminum 2-Bay Cylindrical
182. NSC Covered Hopper 3000 4-Bay Cylindrical
088. NSC Covered Hopper 2300 Cylindrical 1-Bay
166. Ortner Hopper 3800
071. PC&F Box Car 3968
175. PC&F Box Car 4124
130. PC&F Box Car 4762 10’-6” Plug Door
276. PC&F Box Car 4949
024. PC&F Box Car 4974
122. PC&F Box Car 5077 Plate B
239. PC&F Box Car 5077 with improved Dreadnaught Ends
058. PC&F Box Car 5077 with Non-Terminating Corrugated Ends
174. PC&F Box Car 5102 Combination Door with 8’ Corrugated Youngstown Door and 6’ Youngstown Slide Plate B GN Signature
082. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with terminating dreadnaught ends)
156. PC&F Box Car 5148 Double Door (with non-terminating box corrugated ends) WP Signature
273. PC&F Box Car 5188 (Raised Roof)
046. PC&F Box Car 5195 12’ Plug Door Partial Waffle
268. PC&F Box Car 5215 6’ and 8’ YSD V-Latch Double Plug Door
043. PC&F Box Car 5241 Boston & Maine Signature
139. PC&F Box Car 5242 10’ Plug Door Plate C
142. PC&F Box Car 5243 Double Door
205. PC&F Box Car 5258 (Reduced Door)
068. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ Plug Door (converted from 16’ double slider)
027. PC&F Box Car 5258 10’ YSD Replacement Door Conversion
225. PC&F Box Car 5258 12’ Plug Door
121. PC&F Box Car 5258 Double Door
105. PC&F Box Car 5266 Plug Door
155. PC&F Box Car 5266
067. PC&F Box Car 5268 YSD V-Latch Double Plug
221. PC&F Box Car 5277 Combination Door
126. PC&F Box Car 5277 Railbox
236. PC&F Box Car 5277 10’ Plug Door Plate C
108. PC&F Box Car 5307 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate C
019. PC&F Box Car 5317
146. PC&F Box Car 5326 Double Door (Increased Height)
011. PC&F Box Car 5335
161. PC&F Box Car 5461 Double Door Plate C
023. PC&F Box Car 5472 Double Door
102. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #1) Plate C
098. PC&F Box Car 5486 10’ Plug Door (variation #2) Plate C
192. PC&F Box Car 5486 Double Door
280. PC&F Box Car 5504 Double Door
196. PC&F Box Car 5528 with Bow-Tie or bifurcated Dreadnaught Terminated Ends
004. PC&F Box Car 5528 Plate C Double 8’ Plug Door
013. PC&F Box Car 5824 Double Plug Door Plate C
245. PC&F Box Car 6157 Double 8’ Plug Door Plate F
272. PC&F Box Car 6179 Double Plug Door Plate F
060. PC&F Box Car 6187 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature
283. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Door (Extended Height)
262. PC&F Box Car 6308 Double Plug Door Plate C
026. PC&F Box Car 6359 Double Plug Door Plate F Union Pacific Signature
107. PC&F Box Car 6486 Double Door Plate E
202. PC&F Box Car 6505 Double 8’ Plug Door Heavy Duty Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Plate F
134. PC&F Box Car 7125 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider)
125. PC&F Box Car 7284
097. PC&F Box Car 7295 Double Door (6’ and 10’ Youngstown Slider) Double Sheathed
223. PC&F Box Car 7348 Elongated Waffle
222. PC&F Box Car 7413
258. PC&F Box Car 7422 Double Door with Bifurcated Terminating Dreadnaught Ends Double Sheathed
086. PC&F Box Car 7477 8’ Double Door
163. PC&F Box Car 7633
266. PC&F Box Car 10354 Double Plug Door Plate F+
171. PC&F Box Car 10414 Quad Plug Door Plate F+ SP Signature
144. Pennsylvania Hopper 2547 H37A
061. Portec Hopper 2300 2-Bay
288. Pressed Steel Hopper 2785
109. P-S Box Car 5277 Golden Tye-Pullman Kit
214. P-S Box Car 5077 Plate B
022. P-S Covered Hopper 2600 PS-2CD
104. P-S Covered Hopper 2931
032. P-S Hopper 678
153. P-S Hopper 1663 Ballast
195. P-S Hopper 2640
289. P-S Hopper 2678
116. P-S Hopper 2685
160. P-S Hopper 2700
198. P-S Hopper 2743 4-Bay
235. P-S Hopper 2750 3-Bay
089. P-S Hopper 2775
165. P-S Hopper 2810 3-Bay
012. P-S Hopper 3884
036. P-S Hopper 4000 3-Bay
001. Thrall Centerbeam FC 63’-1”
010. Thrall Hopper 4065 ‘Avalanche’
133. Trenton-Works Box Car 5237
128. Trenton-Works Box Car 5277 6’ plug 10’-4” 6-Panel Combination Door
246. Trenton-Works Box Car 5503 Double Sliding Door
077. Trenton-Works Box Car 6237 12’ Plug Door
051. Trenton-Works Box Car 6269 12’ Plug Door
158. Trenton-Works Box Car 6269 10’ Plug Door CNW Signature
084. Trenton-Works Box Car 6538 Double Door
247. Trenton-Works Box Car 6637 "6’ Plug, 10’-4” 7-Panel Combination Door "
261. Trenton-Works Box Car 6648 Double Door
164. Trenton-Works Box Car 6652 "6’ Plug, 7-Panel 10’-4” Slider Combination Door "
271. Trenton-Works Box Car 7286 Double 8’ Plug Door
172. Trenton-Works Box Car 7352 Double 8’ Plug Door
217. Trenton-Works Box Car 7541 10’ Plug Door
117. Trenton-Works Box Car 7541 12’ Single Door
152. Trenton-Works Box Car 7541 Double 8’ Door
002. Trenton-Works Bulkhead Flat Car 67’-11”
017. Trinity Hopper 2300 2-Bay
103. Trinity Covered Hopper 2893
072. Trinity Covered Hopper 2980

Ted Curphey
Rochester, WA
Funnelfan\'s Railfan Website

As said quite a few interesting cars. I have to wonder if some of the NSC Canadian cars are not the former Sylvan molds. I have heard rumor that Exactrail was working on a coil car but as you see it is not listed here as well as no tank cars, double stack cars, or any more gons. Thanks to Ted for breaking the list down!

[curtmc]

As I said before... Anybody who believes the June ER ad is simply not thinking about the math.

Even at 12 projects a year - what the BIG guys like Athearn and Atlas even have trouble doing (even in the best of economic times and with a vast dealer network) - those 289 projects will only take a little over 24 YEARS... That's right, OVER 24 YEARS!!!

Here's the other angle you should consider...

What does a company need to do to promote their products when they've just thrown away their entire US dealer network? That's right, they need to get people to their web site and mass e-mail lists... There is no better way to do that than announce an item everybody is interested in, and what you have just likely seen is the hobby's biggest shotgun blast ever trying to cover something each person out there may want - to try to get people to the website... And by the way, each person added to that e-mail list database is another that could be sold off to third parties and potentially make a little side income that way.

And here is another thing to think about... What are the chances of any of them being right if done, as the last car they have released - the Berwick 7327cf boxcar which is in that list - is not correct for that signature car type (the Chessie Berwick 7327)? The new model has the wider end panels of the Berwick 7480 cars that were much less common.

[rhpd42002]

Curt, I'm pretty sure no one here really expects ER to pull much of this off.
It would be nice if they managed to get 3 or 4 done each year and one would like to hope and believe, done correctly.
As far as their business model and their dealer network, which they've recently abandoned, who really knows how it's all going to shake out. Many a modeler has probably "forgiven" a Mfr. if they brought out a decent facsimilie of something they really, really wanted/coveted.
I've not visited their website recently and as I dislike a lot of unwanted e-mail, I seldom sign up for such "new release updates", etc. from anyone.
Now that Atlas' Forum is out of service, I'm hoping that this place will be where I can learn the good, the bad and the ugly about things coming down the line. Then I can make the choice to accept the offering(s) or leave 'em on the shelf.
It will be interesting to see how things pan out for ER, in the end.

[umtrrauthor]

Regardless of the ultimate validity of that list, I have to hand it to FunnelFan for having the patience to compile it out of the ad!

[curtmc]

May 21, 2012 18:05:09 GMT -8 umtrrauthor said:

Regardless of the ultimate validity of that list, I have to hand it to FunnelFan for having the patience to compile it out of the ad!

Agreed... I started to do it myself the night I saw the ad (when the Atlas forum was still up) but punted after about item 15... Didn't want the list to get caught forever on the first page of the Atlas forum when it shut down.

And by the way, somebody else had recently compiled the 1-289 list (posted on TO) and then Ted sorted it by builder... A nice way to look at it... (and laugh)

[curtmc]

May 21, 2012 16:27:30 GMT -8 rhpd42002 said:

Many a modeler has probably "forgiven" a Mfr. if they brought out a decent facsimilie of something they really, really wanted/coveted.

Yeah I agree... I was on the brink of that when they announced the Berwick 7327 in Chessie... that is until they botched it.

If they had just done a correct car body for the 7327 then the C&O Chessie car would be a masterpiece. Instead it is great paint on the wrong body. And the B&O Chessie? I'm still wondering how the weight data could end up so far off on a model after a historical society reportedly gave them the correct data.

[shoofly]

FMC 5283's..l really?! IM already redid the athearn BB model. I wonder if the intent would be to do the version with the riveted overhanging roof vs the welded roof ala IM. The PCF version would be cool too.

Did anyone see any 52' models listed in there?