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Post by packer on Oct 4, 2015 15:47:39 GMT -8
Over the past few weeks I have been trying to paint some of those life-like 70s-80s Ford Trucks for an Autorack. A few weeks ago, I was painting a group, then as I walked away I heard some rustling and a thud... A squirrel had fallen out of a tree and landed onto the trucks. Not only was the paint wet, it cracked the roof of 1, and another one got stuck to it.
I couldn't do any painting last week due to rain, but I tried again today before the Packer's game. Got it all going well, I painted 6 today, put an Accurail 4750 kit together during commercial breaks and "bonus coverage." I came back out, one of the 6 trucks is missing and another one is knocked off the newspaper I painted it on, again and of course squirrel tracks in the paint.
Is there anything I can put in the area to keep the squirrels away? I have 2 dogs, but it's not working. Just though I'd ask if anyone has any ideas.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Oct 4, 2015 16:38:34 GMT -8
Hey Al, I admit to doing a double-take when he posted this over on the MRR Forum and said "What??!". Just when I thought I've heard every weird thing that can happen in this hobby.......... But I think he's serious. Years back I painted models outside but was blessed in having a screened in area to protect my models from the "critters". Bugs and squirrels seemed to be attracted to the smell of paint. Packer, since you're painting outside an easy solution is to put your units in a cage, such as the type used for rabbits. If you don't have access to one, just use the quick old fashioned step of covering your painted units with one or more laundry or Tuppaware baskets when you finish spraying. Place a brick or other heavy object on top of each basket or bin to keep the squirrels from knocking them over. ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81SbJrGd60L._SL1500_.jpg
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Post by jlwii2000 on Oct 4, 2015 16:44:48 GMT -8
This is pretty funny, nothing you can do about squirrels I would just avoid being under a tree. Other than squirrels, birds may also decide to "paint" your models a nice white and brown color.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Oct 4, 2015 16:49:02 GMT -8
I think I understand his problem. If you have no other place to paint but your back yard and there's squirrels present...forget it! Even if their tree is 20 yards away, those little "furballs" will come and check out what you've painted whether it's on the ground or up on a table. Best and cheapest route in this case is to "cage" or "enclose" the models once painting is finished.
Packer, hopefully in the long run you'll be able to invest in a paint booth, put it in a room inside your home, and create a vent to the outside.
Painting outdoors can be a pain when you have to contend with dirt, dust, lint, animals, and the weather.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Oct 4, 2015 16:53:56 GMT -8
Antonio's pretty much solved it. I would suggest using a box, as it'll also help minimize wind blown shmutz in your final finish. My neighbor used to do his painting outside, and he picked up some "early weathering" on occasion.
I've also gotta wonder at the quality of squirrel you have. My squirrels NEVER fall out of trees. Very accomplished little devils. Not good at crossing the street, though.
Ed
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Post by atsfan on Oct 4, 2015 17:32:12 GMT -8
Depending on where you live there is a .22 option maybe...............
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Post by tankcarsrule on Oct 4, 2015 17:38:14 GMT -8
I was photographing one of my tank cars out of doors, when a barn owl swooped down, grabbed it and flew away. The next day it was on eBay.
Regards, Bobby
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Post by theengineshed on Oct 4, 2015 17:49:44 GMT -8
Pellet gun here, even then I was braking ordinances. Had a digger squirrel who loved to make holes in my yard, big ones. $45 at Walmart for a pellet gun, another $10 for pointy ammo pellets. Sat in my garage with the door open behind some stuff in a lawn chair and waited. Got her and she bled out quickly.
You can also trap them and take them far away, but then you aren't necessarily targeting your culprit. From experience, any squirrels you remove either by killing or trapping, will be replaced by young ones next season. So you can't eliminate them permanently.
The first "thud" was probably shear chance, the fellow fell from a tree. The second was probably curiosity. If this continues, I'd get a pellet gun, paint something as a lure, and get him. AFAIC, squirrels are rats with fuzzy tails. Our local ordinances will let me kill rats all day long but squirrels are protected, makes absolutely no sense...
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Post by theengineshed on Oct 4, 2015 17:50:25 GMT -8
I was photographing one of my tank cars out of doors, when a barn owl swooped down, grabbed it and flew away. The next day it was on eBay. Damn, I just wet myself laughing!
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Oct 4, 2015 20:07:03 GMT -8
Pellet gun here, even then I was braking ordinances. Had a digger squirrel who loved to make holes in my yard, big ones. $45 at Walmart for a pellet gun, another $10 for pointy ammo pellets. Sat in my garage with the door open behind some stuff in a lawn chair and waited. Got her and she bled out quickly. You can also trap them and take them far away, but then you aren't necessarily targeting your culprit. From experience, any squirrels you remove either by killing or trapping, will be replaced by young ones next season. So you can't eliminate them permanently. The first "thud" was probably shear chance, the fellow fell from a tree. The second was probably curiosity. If this continues, I'd get a pellet gun, paint something as a lure, and get him. AFAIC, squirrels are rats with fuzzy tails. Our local ordinances will let me kill rats all day long but squirrels are protected, makes absolutely no sense... WHOA WHOA WHOA!! You are encouraging this dude to get more weirded up on us. You are telling him that the way to solve the problem of NATURE and Squirrels is to KILL them by shooting them with a pellet gun because they are being a little mischievous during a cheap spray painting event of Cheap Life-Like vehicles? Seriously? Is that truly the answer for such a silly issue? Go to Walmart and buy a pellet gun, ammo and then bait the squirrels, just to kill them. Wow. well let me be the first to talk some real sense and mean it SQUIRRELS LIVES MATTER TOO!!
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Post by mlehman on Oct 4, 2015 21:13:29 GMT -8
I was photographing one of my tank cars out of doors, when a barn owl swooped down, grabbed it and flew away. The next day it was on eBay. Regards, Bobby Bobby, You were probably pretty relieved to find out it was just a klepto-owl and no sorcery, spells, or wizardry was involved.
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Post by Judge Doom on Oct 4, 2015 21:48:45 GMT -8
Pellet gun here, even then I was braking ordinances. Had a digger squirrel who loved to make holes in my yard, big ones. $45 at Walmart for a pellet gun, another $10 for pointy ammo pellets. Sat in my garage with the door open behind some stuff in a lawn chair and waited. Got her and she bled out quickly. You can also trap them and take them far away, but then you aren't necessarily targeting your culprit. From experience, any squirrels you remove either by killing or trapping, will be replaced by young ones next season. So you can't eliminate them permanently. The first "thud" was probably shear chance, the fellow fell from a tree. The second was probably curiosity. If this continues, I'd get a pellet gun, paint something as a lure, and get him. AFAIC, squirrels are rats with fuzzy tails. Our local ordinances will let me kill rats all day long but squirrels are protected, makes absolutely no sense... WHOA WHOA WHOA!! You are encouraging this dude to get more weirded up on us. You are telling him that the way to solve the problem of NATURE and Squirrels is to KILL them by shooting them with a pellet gun because they are being a little mischievous during a cheap spray painting event of Cheap Life-Like vehicles? Seriously? Is that truly the answer for such a silly issue? Go to Walmart and buy a pellet gun, ammo and then bait the squirrels, just to kill them. Wow. well let me be the first to talk some real sense and mean it SQUIRRELS LIVES MATTER TOO!!Works for snitches and gangbangers. A more practical solution would be to paint the models outside, then move them to a spot near the house away from any trees. Or put them in the garage. Or just not leave them unattended while outside. Or, the pellet gun...
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Post by curtmc on Oct 4, 2015 23:27:08 GMT -8
Makes me think of the few times I had growing up when we had fried squirrel for dinner...
My advise would be (1) get a fake rubber snake and put by your models, (2) take the models indoors shortly after painting or cover with a 5 gallon bucket with brick on top, or (3) (where allowed) target practice/hunting for dinner (if the latter use .22 and not birdshot)
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Post by dhs12001 on Oct 5, 2015 6:53:24 GMT -8
Mepps fishing lures used to pay for squirrel tails. I get tree rats on the roof gnawing on window sills. they are a damned nuisance and people frown if you harm them? I just got back from Wisconsin where the Deer population is excessive. On the news one night it was announced the Rhinelander was allowing hunting in town, with the stipulation that you had to be in your yard. (no shooting from inside you house) I wanna move there.
Dave
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Post by Spikre on Oct 5, 2015 10:42:56 GMT -8
rubber snake may be Yummy to hawks,crows,owls and maybe even eagles. but they would also like squirrels,so why arnt they doing their Natural Job ? with the Squirrels,Feed Them !! Feed Them so much they barely can move,then the Birds of Prey should get them easily. best to let Nature handle Pests. and when the feast is over the Birds should leave also. Spikre
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Oct 5, 2015 13:37:49 GMT -8
Dead trees on neighbor's property matter too. Pellet gun here, even then I was braking ordinances. Had a digger squirrel who loved to make holes in my yard, big ones. $45 at Walmart for a pellet gun, another $10 for pointy ammo pellets. Sat in my garage with the door open behind some stuff in a lawn chair and waited. Got her and she bled out quickly. You can also trap them and take them far away, but then you aren't necessarily targeting your culprit. From experience, any squirrels you remove either by killing or trapping, will be replaced by young ones next season. So you can't eliminate them permanently. The first "thud" was probably shear chance, the fellow fell from a tree. The second was probably curiosity. If this continues, I'd get a pellet gun, paint something as a lure, and get him. AFAIC, squirrels are rats with fuzzy tails. Our local ordinances will let me kill rats all day long but squirrels are protected, makes absolutely no sense... WHOA WHOA WHOA!! You are encouraging this dude to get more weirded up on us. You are telling him that the way to solve the problem of NATURE and Squirrels is to KILL them by shooting them with a pellet gun because they are being a little mischievous during a cheap spray painting event of Cheap Life-Like vehicles? Seriously? Is that truly the answer for such a silly issue? Go to Walmart and buy a pellet gun, ammo and then bait the squirrels, just to kill them. Wow. well let me be the first to talk some real sense and mean it SQUIRRELS LIVES MATTER TOO!!
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Oct 6, 2015 7:16:09 GMT -8
Yeah that was funny (insert sarcasm tone). No one even has a clue what that means, not even me. Weirdoooo. Are you trying to say squirrels kill trees some how? You just do not make sense. Clarify yourself. Dead trees on neighbor's property matter too. WHOA WHOA WHOA!! You are encouraging this dude to get more weirded up on us. You are telling him that the way to solve the problem of NATURE and Squirrels is to KILL them by shooting them with a pellet gun because they are being a little mischievous during a cheap spray painting event of Cheap Life-Like vehicles? Seriously? Is that truly the answer for such a silly issue? Go to Walmart and buy a pellet gun, ammo and then bait the squirrels, just to kill them. Wow. well let me be the first to talk some real sense and mean it SQUIRRELS LIVES MATTER TOO!!
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Post by Judge Doom on Oct 6, 2015 12:57:41 GMT -8
Yeah that was funny (insert sarcasm tone). No one even has a clue what that means, not even me. Weirdoooo. Are you trying to say squirrels kill trees some how? You just do not make sense. Clarify yourself. Dead trees on neighbor's property matter too. I think somecallmetim means, be careful whose trees you cut down without asking, you might get in trouble with the law.
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Oct 6, 2015 19:31:34 GMT -8
Yeah that was funny (insert sarcasm tone). No one even has a clue what that means, not even me. Weirdoooo. Are you trying to say squirrels kill trees some how? You just do not make sense. Clarify yourself. I think somecallmetim means, be careful whose trees you cut down without asking, you might get in trouble with the law. Oh yeah, that was funny. It was funny how the "trees" (Privet Hedges) were actually on MY PROPERTY which was later proven by land records so the charges were dropped. But, The funniest part about that situation is after I threatened suit against the city thru my attorney for the wrongful arrest it was quickly settled for an "UNDISCLOSED AMOUNT" including the additional amount I paid for my lawyer at a petty $2,500. So yeah, now I am so worried about the "law" catching up with me for cutting my own hedges without permission again. LOL, Yeah right. OH yeah, I forgot, Here is the BEST part of the story, The lady was already in deep foreclosure and before the land records of my property lines were brought out in court and showed I owned the property THE HEDGES are on, she demanded $12,000 for restitution, (Ironically The amount needed to save her home) well in the end she didn't get a damn dime and still LOST HER HOME! Now the property sits VACANT today. LOL. LMAO!! Funny story huh? C'mon guys, laugh with me. That is funny. I got paid baby! I never tried acting like a computer tough guy (Like many of you do), I am real on and off the internet and I always will be. Many fools will continue to try and derail my train but I am only stronger today. Shoot, just Google "AL Mayo assault" and read about the guy that got his butt handed to him after he expressed that he was going to beat mine. The Dude simply attacked me after removing his shirt that night (he got a few shots in too). I surely did not want to fight him, BUT... well, the rest is history. That was just over 2 years ago. I was popped for Assault then. I am not ashamed of defending myself either, in the end, yeah, I BEAT THAT assault case too. LIFE IS GOOD!
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Post by antoniofp45 on Oct 7, 2015 13:37:56 GMT -8
Hey Al,
When I saw your post below, it stirred up some strong thoughts in me!
I'm in Florida and it really fries my nerves when I see or read of how a number of people in this state have no qualms about throwing a neighbor under the bus and then running him over back and forth with it in an attempt to gain a financial windfall! The advice down here to property buyers is to "suck it up" and spend the extra money on a real estate lawyer before buying land or a home. Anything comes up later, and that lawyer will already be prepared to bat for you. I used to blow that thought off as overkill; but now with the obscene number of real estate related fraud cases popping up........I realize it's sound advice.
Very glad that justice prevailed and you came out ahead! That neighbor was already in a foreclosure fight and it would have been a simple matter for her to check the municipal land records to verify that those dead trees and hedges (which for those not aware, are a fire hazard) were on your property, not hers.
But scenes like what you've experienced are, unfortunately, prone to happen in a bad economy.
BTW: Guys, if you visit Florida, don't even think about shooting at squirrels with pellet guns. Back in the day, people were free to catch and cook wild critters (squirrels, racoons, beavers) at will. Today the animal rights activist groups here wield some serious political leverage; so be careful or you may wind up doing a few days in a "county pokey"!
I think somecallmetim means, be careful whose trees you cut down without asking, you might get in trouble with the law. Oh yeah, that was funny. It was funny how the "trees" (Privet Hedges) were actually on MY PROPERTY which was later proven by land records so the charges were dropped. But, The funniest part about that situation is after I threatened suit against the city thru my attorney for the wrongful arrest it was quickly settled for an "UNDISCLOSED AMOUNT" including the additional amount I paid for my lawyer at a petty $2,500. So yeah, now I am so worried about the "law" catching up with me for cutting my own hedges without permission again. LOL, Yeah right. OH yeah, I forgot, Here is the BEST part of the story, The lady was already in deep foreclosure and before the land records of my property lines were brought out in court and showed I owned the property THE HEDGES are on, she demanded $12,000 for restitution, (Ironically The amount needed to save her home) well in the end she didn't get a damn dime and still LOST HER HOME! Now the property sits VACANT today. LOL. LMAO!! Funny story huh? C'mon guys, laugh with me. That is funny. I got paid baby! I never tried acting like a computer tough guy (Like many of you do), I am real on and off the internet and I always will be. Many fools will continue to try and derail my train but I am only stronger today. Shoot, just Google "AL Mayo assault" and read about the guy that got his butt handed to him after he expressed that he was going to beat mine. The Dude simply attacked me after removing his shirt that night (he got a few shots in too). I surely did not want to fight him, BUT... well, the rest is history. That was just over 2 years ago. I was popped for Assault then. I am not ashamed of defending myself either, in the end, yeah, I BEAT THAT assault case too. LIFE IS GOOD!
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Post by Judge Doom on Oct 7, 2015 19:45:06 GMT -8
Woah, woah, woah, no need to post your entire rap sheet there Al
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Post by theengineshed on Oct 8, 2015 17:31:55 GMT -8
Back in my early years I worked a nursery. The kind that sells plants, not takes care of kids. Anyway, one Saturday I poking around in the fridge looking for my lunch and curiosity got the better of me, I opened a large bag to see what was inside. Approximately half a dozen squirrels, neatly skinned and gutted. The owner's dad had shot them on the property. He'd forgotten to take them home for Sunday dinner. I was told they are a tough cut of meat, you need to cook them all day, in a dutch oven...
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Post by John Sheridan on Oct 9, 2015 5:10:10 GMT -8
I was photographing one of my tank cars out of doors, when a barn owl swooped down, grabbed it and flew away. The next day it was on eBay. Regards, Bobby Bobby, You were probably pretty relieved to find out it was just a klepto-owl and no sorcery, spells, or wizardry was involved. It is only a matter of time before the Squirrels enslave mankind & force all of us to work on their nut mines.
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