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Post by atsfan on Nov 10, 2015 10:50:56 GMT -8
atsfan, Finding the X% of the total is irrelevant. They only need to get 3000+ models sold to be successful. They could sell 3000 pieces to one guy and they'd be happy. Telling the manufacturers "no" means nothing. They only care about "yes". Tell a manufacturer that you want a product and they might make it. Tell a manufacturer that you don't want a product and they'll ignore you. I agree. What I am wondering is how do you come up with any total of projected sales? (3000 units etc) I am not arguing one way or the other, but how does Company X determine the market? Somehow they have to survey, or guess, or gauge, or figure out the market size, penetration, etc. Or do they just take a leap of faith based on their own opinion etc. Just asking....  |
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Post by atsfan on Nov 10, 2015 10:58:03 GMT -8
Nobody said that. Not even close to saying that. Refer to the post above which says the 99% is irrelevant. Ok. Fair enough. Let's get some context then: For something as obscure as a Pooch and in as small of numbers as such a model would be produced? You mainly want to know if there are numbers interested that would support what you intend to do. I think it's safe to say that 99% do NOT want a Pooch. But that's an irrelevant number. 's assertion above that a 'No' option in a poll on this forum about members' desire for a P30CH shell (which 99% of this forum's members would select if they were forced to participate in that poll) is irrelevant is followed by: It is not irrelevant for a manufacturer deciding on producing an item that 99% of the market does not want the item. So how is this you not saying that a bunch of people on this forum saying 'No' is 99% of the market? I honestly don't know how to answer you since we must be saying similar things differently. Lehman said "I think it's safe to say that 99% do NOT want a Pooch". End of statement. I read that to be the HO market since he didn't say "99% of the Atlas Rescue Forum do NOT want a Pooch". If he meant that latter, then it didn't say that. It didn't say a bunch of people on this forum. If that is how you read it well OK then. Obviously this forum and any poll in it is not a definitive market research effort for anyone. If it was we would have a new Genesis quality SD40-2 by now (   ). For that matter nothing would ever get manufactured, since every product made is either not wanted, not needed, beating a dead horse, wrong era, wrong color, wrong paint sheen, wrong parts, missing parts, made by MTH, only worth sawing in half, not the right sound, or not something else to read all the posts here. So the forum is a small sample and a data point. Not the entire HO train market in a bottle. |
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Post by Paul Cutler III on Nov 10, 2015 14:23:56 GMT -8
atsfan,
These days, the size of the run is based on pre-orders. That's why the NS Heritage locos from Athearn actually dropped in price before they came out. The demand was so high that they made even more than they figured they were going to. One assumes that the Chinese dropped the price per unit for the higher production run, meaning that the price to us can drop as well.
Likewise, it's why many products get canceled (see: Rapido C-Liner). When the pre-orders don't add up to a hill of beans, then the project gets canned.
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Post by bdhicks on Nov 22, 2015 19:26:25 GMT -8
Even after all of this, we still had someone make another poll without a None of the Above option. What about people who don't use wheelsets on their trains, Jerk? Let me check who made that poll and ... oh wait, that was me. Whoops.
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Post by notabob on Nov 22, 2015 20:35:16 GMT -8
Even after all of this, we still had someone make another poll without a None of the Above option. What about people who don't use wheelsets on their trains, Jerk? Let me check who made that poll and ... oh wait, that was me. Whoops. I applaud your utter disregard for such a critical and relevant segment of our modeling community, sir! |
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). For that matter nothing would ever get manufactured, since every product made is either not wanted, not needed, beating a dead horse, wrong era, wrong color, wrong paint sheen, wrong parts, missing parts, made by MTH, only worth sawing in half, not the right sound, or not something else to read all the posts here. So the forum is a small sample and a data point. Not the entire HO train market in a bottle.
