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Post by tornado on Jul 3, 2016 7:03:15 GMT -8
I'd love to see Atlas add the Alco T-6 to their product line. I know only 40 were built, mostly for N&W and PRR, but those are popular road names in the hobby. There is precedent for unusual Alcos produced in HO scale- Proto 2000 had the RS-27, of which only 27 were built, but again, the lines that bought them are also popular in the hobby. The T-6 is a distinctive looking locomotive, and I know I'd get a pair of N&W or Penn Central ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 8:15:10 GMT -8
I'd love to see Atlas add the Alco T-6 to their product line. I know only 40 were built, mostly for N&W and PRR, but those are popular road names in the hobby. There is precedent for unusual Alcos produced in HO scale- Proto 2000 had the RS-27, of which only 27 were built, but again, the lines that bought them are also popular in the hobby. The T-6 is a distinctive looking locomotive, and I know I'd get a pair of N&W or Penn Central ones. When (not if) the T-6 is produced in HO scsale, it will also be offered as the more-popular S-5 / S-6 version. Total production 133. The main spotting difference being the T-6's angled number board notches. Southern Pacific alone owned 70 S-6s. It was SP's most common switcher up 'till swarms of SW1500s started appearing in 1967. |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Jul 3, 2016 8:26:16 GMT -8
The main spotting difference being the T-6's angled number board notches. That alone the reason I'd spring for one. I've stayed away from end cab locomotives on my layout as a whole, I do have 1 S-2 and an SW-1, but the Alco notch hood ends are fitting with my fleet of RSD-15s. |
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Post by Brakie on Jul 3, 2016 8:56:04 GMT -8
Remember some of those T-6s went to short lines.
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jul 4, 2016 9:49:58 GMT -8
Since some of the PRR T-6s were based at Morrisville, and used at Bristol, A couple in PC would be nice.
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Post by alcoc430 on Jul 4, 2016 13:42:53 GMT -8
They even made it into Conrail and two made it into conrail blue.
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Post by southeastern on Jul 5, 2016 1:13:05 GMT -8
Need quite a few of these Alco T6's if you model Norfolk Western. They had 40 of them.
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Post by Spikre on Jul 5, 2016 8:47:28 GMT -8
 there were at least 57 T-6s built,they had a sort of surge after 1966. sure that even 1 got the Hi-Ad trucks. one of the PRR/PC/CR units was at Croxton Yard during 76,but it wasn't in the clear to take good pics of it. Spikre 
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 5, 2016 9:55:29 GMT -8
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Post by lajrmdlr on Jul 5, 2016 11:02:17 GMT -8
Weren't there more S-6s that's only been done in brass?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 12:18:15 GMT -8
Weren't there more S-6s that's only been done in brass? ALCO Models did one in brass back in the 1970s(?) Pretty nice shell, poor runner. I had one but sold it as soon as rumors of a forthcoming plastic model started circulating. I'll wait. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 12:27:38 GMT -8
Do you have a link to a larger photo of the Kaiser unit? I vaguely remember seeing it dumping slag atop the giant pile adjacent to the I-10 in Fontana. The site was leveled and is occupied by large distribution warehouses. www.google.com/maps/@34.0711006,-117.5090404,1252m/data=!3m1!1e3 Thanks |
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 5, 2016 13:25:20 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 15:09:41 GMT -8
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Post by Spikre on Jul 9, 2016 10:35:05 GMT -8
 one slight note about the N&SS T-6s,they were the last locos Finished by Alco, but they weren't the last locos started by Alco. the White Pass DL-535Es were on the floor and shipped to MLW about 3/69 and finished by MLW a few months later. the Closeing of Alco was about as messy as the closing of Parent Studebaker's phasing out of Auto Production a few years earlier. why introduce the Avanti, only to DQ it less than a year on the market ? Spikre 
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Post by tornado on Jul 19, 2016 4:22:33 GMT -8
The Delaware Coast Line has a T-6 on it's roster, based in Georgetown, DE. I've seen it on the Lewes Branch of the DCL, switching the SPI-Pharma plant at the end of the line in Lewes next to the entrance to Cape Henlopen State Park.
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Post by eh49 on Jul 19, 2016 15:33:07 GMT -8
there were at least 57 T-6s built,they had a sort of surge after 1966. sure that even 1 got the Hi-Ad trucks. one of the PRR/PC/CR units was at Croxton Yard during 76,but it wasn't in the clear to take good pics of it. Spikre Yes, the MonCon...Monogahela Connecting RR had a T6 with HiAd trucks. Located in Pittsburgh, Pa. Whose primary function what's to switch a couple J&L steel plants. They also had the worlds only Low Cab C415. Again on HiAd trucks. |
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Post by Spikre on Jul 20, 2016 7:29:13 GMT -8
eh49, have a few pics in books of the Mon-Con C415,but cant recall where the pic of the Mon-Con T-6 was ? interesting that EMD introduced the SW1000,CB&Q and D&RG weren't thrilled with their tractive effort,or actually the lack of it. Q especially thought that the 12 cylinder NW2s pulled much better. this could be 1 reason the T-6 sort of gained Late Popularity,seems Alco always thought the TE of the S-4s and T-6s was equal to any other builders 1200 HP switchers. Alco could have made a T-7 of 1200 HP,or a T-8 of 1500 HP,but then tried to sell an End Cab C-415,one of 3 versions of C-415s that were never built/ordered. Spikre
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Post by PennCentral on Jul 20, 2016 9:26:01 GMT -8
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Post by milgentrains on Jul 20, 2016 10:15:28 GMT -8
That T-6 sure has some big feet. Was that one ALCO's last loco? |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 20, 2016 11:07:25 GMT -8
I find myself growing ever more interested in getting myself an Alco T-6:  Ed |
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 20, 2016 12:46:36 GMT -8
Can anyone confirm that it is simply a hood difference between an S-6 and a T-6? And that the frame/trucks/etc are the same as an S-2/S-4 with AAR-As (the MonCon unit with the Hi-Ads excepted) ?
Could it be as simple as Atlas doing a welded cab, a S-6 and a T-6 hood, and a modified frame, and we would be there?
Jim Lackner
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Post by Spikre on Jul 20, 2016 14:52:14 GMT -8
the S-1/3,S-2/4,S-5/6,and T-6 should be all slightly different lengths. but there was a longer Draft gear used on late S-4s,but the frame was the same length. will look for the listed lengths later this week. with the Mon-Con T-6, it appears that the Hi-Ads barely fit,and some things were moved down under. the S-2/4s were the longest of this grouping. EDIT - Alco stopped production of the S-3s before the Draft gear/long shank coupler change, late MLW S-3s got the Draft Gear and long shank couplers. Spikre 
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Post by Judge Doom on Jul 20, 2016 16:45:33 GMT -8
I can see Bowser scooping this one up after their RS3 and C415. Atlas doesn't seem to have much gas in the tank for coming out with newly tooled locos these days.
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Post by alcoc430 on Jul 20, 2016 22:06:52 GMT -8
Can anyone confirm that it is simply a hood difference between an S-6 and a T-6? And that the frame/trucks/etc are the same as an S-2/S-4 with AAR-As (the MonCon unit with the Hi-Ads excepted) ? Could it be as simple as Atlas doing a welded cab, a S-6 and a T-6 hood, and a modified frame, and we would be there? Jim Lackner The T6 and S6 have the same 22' wheelbase. The wheelbase of the S2 is 22'-6" although all have the same coupler to coupler length of 45'-5 3/4" the pilot face to pilot face length of the T6/S6 is 6" less (41') than the S2 (41'-6") However 6" in ho scale is 0.0689" (little greater than 1/16"). The cabs look very similar in regards to overall dimensions, but according to the drawings the side windows of the S6 are larger and it appears to be that way in some photos that I looked at. There are also headlight (hood/cab) differences between the two with the T6 having dual headlights while the S6 has at least three alternatives; SP package, single and dual headlights. In addition the NW T6's do not have the two inner front windows and has a intake stack on the long hood at the face of the cab. To be accurate they would have to tool a few different cabs. Also IIRC the shape of the S6's pilots may be different between lokies from different railroads. Although Altas is long thought to be the logical choice for this but the walther's model (s2)0 is more flexible since they utilizes a separate plastic sill/pilot piece whereas Atlas utilizes a integral cast metal frame/sill/pilot. Since there are some variations in the sill plates shapes for the S6 and differences between the S2 and the T6 sills. I'm assuming it is easier to tool and produce plastic sills opposed to casting metal. |
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Post by Spikre on Jul 23, 2016 10:27:02 GMT -8
what is here in X2200 is that the S-2 is 46' Ol,making it one of the longer Alco switcher designs.{ by 7" or 8" } while early S-4s matched that,Late S-4s got a New draft Gear casting and Long Shank Couplers,this made them longer over the Pulling faces,but the frame and End Sills matched the S-2s and early S-4s. couldn't find the lengths for the S-5/6 and T-6 yet,but the 6-251 was a bit shorter than the 6-539. the larger radiators on the 6-539Ts in the S-2/4s make up their extra length. am sure the T-6 hood is longer than the S-5/6 hood,due to the Side vs End radiator arrangements. some of this spills over to the later MLW 539 vs 251 switchers also. Spikre 
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Jul 23, 2016 10:50:26 GMT -8
The last of two domestic ALCo's built Newburgh & South Shore T-6 #1016  Who can resist the ALCo S-6 in Southern Pacific. Love the headlight package from SP.   |
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Post by BEDT26 on Jul 23, 2016 16:41:17 GMT -8
I've been trying to have Atlas or Bowser to produce the T6 for several years now but so far neither has decided to do so yet.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 23, 2016 16:53:33 GMT -8
Well, as you can see from my submitted photo above, I'm in for one.
Therefore production may commence!
Ed
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jul 23, 2016 17:36:13 GMT -8
If anyone is counting, I'm in for two T6, one in PRR the other PC.
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