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Post by fr8kar on Jan 6, 2018 0:40:29 GMT -8
When the Atlas U33B came out awhile ago, this place was lit up with activity talking about how poorly executed the cab was. Even the Hi-Tech cab, which is a nicely designed aftermarket kit, suffers from dimensional errors. If I remember correctly, the consensus in that thread was the Proto 2000 U30B cab and the Rivarossi U25C cab are the best examples of GE Universal cabs available. Actually, "available" is too strong a word, since Walthers doesn't sell parts separately and Rivarossi has left the market.
Anyway, I find this whole thing interesting. It fascinates me that EMD models are so well covered by several manufacturers from RTR models to detail parts but GE is covered so poorly, especially on the detail side. When a company does go out on a limb to offer detail parts they get it wrong. Atlas has taken many cracks at GE locomotives and over and over again the cabs (especially the windows) look terrible.
To bring this around to the prototype, what I'd like to know is, what are the variations of the GE cab, from the early Universal Series through the Dash 7 line? Easy things to spot include: squared or rounded headlight housing; single large window over the short hood, paired windows or L-window; cab sides with sliding windows and a) two fixed windows, b) two windows with blanks or c) no other windows/plain sides.
What are the not-so-easy differences to spot? Did the major dimensions change over the course of production or during the change to the Dash 7 line?
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 8, 2018 20:32:20 GMT -8
Here are some images I've created showing the difference between the prototype GE cab (drawing in green based on GE mechanical drawings) and the Atlas U30C cab (red), the Hi-Tech cab kit (blue) and the Atlas B23-7 cab (violet): Although the Atlas B23-7 cab is pretty close to the prototype - especially compared to the other two examples - it is not widely available to replace the existing cabs on other models.* It is my intention to 3D print a cab model that will address these shortcomings and be available in all variations the prototype was manufactured. The EMD cabs I designed have turned out pretty good, so I'm hoping I'll have similar good luck with GE cabs. Here's a rendering of one of the cab kits: Hopefully it turns out good. I'll know in a few weeks. * The four window cab is available, but numberboard/headlight housings are not. The two window cab is not available. There is no model of the four window cab with blanked windows.
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Post by drsvelte on Jan 9, 2018 11:47:02 GMT -8
I’ve been a member of the Atlas Rescue Forum for some time but this is my first post. As a fan of GE Uboats, I’m really pleased to see you moving forward with this project. Thank you very much!
Incidentally, complete Rivarossi U25C shells are available from vrchobbies (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivarossi-Atlantic-Coast-GE-U25C-3012-Body-Shell-HR2536-04-NOT-COMPLETE/391776900971?hash=item5b37b9176b:g:ib4AAOSwV0RXthr) at $19.99 plus 3.99 shipping.
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 9, 2018 13:16:21 GMT -8
You're welcome! I'm glad someone shares my enthusiasm for GE locomotives. Welcome to the forum by the way.
I've seen those shells before but they would be an expensive solution to the cab problem. I think I may be able to get the price down a couple dollars less than that, maybe more savings if I bundle a couple cabs together into one file. At any rate I'll be glad to have a blanked window cab without having to graft Hi-Tech sides onto Atlas cabs.
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Post by specialduty45 on Jan 9, 2018 13:33:30 GMT -8
You're welcome! I'm glad someone shares my enthusiasm for GE locomotives. Welcome to the forum by the way. I've seen those shells before but they would be an expensive solution to the cab problem. I think I may be able to get the price down a couple dollars less than that, maybe more savings if I bundle a couple cabs together into one file. At any rate I'll be glad to have a blanked window cab without having to graft Hi-Tech sides onto Atlas cabs. Me also as i'm a ge nut. Switching from N back to HO.
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