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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 3:54:36 GMT -8
There is a lack of modern well cars. Viewing a passing container train, I see the Maxi IV's have changed, the three unit NSC cars have been ignored,as well as stand alone cars. There are many different well cars that can add varity to a stack train.
Rapido's stand alone car has been in the works for four years now.
Seems this one aspect of the hobby being ignored.
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Post by wictl on Apr 30, 2019 5:39:40 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 7:13:41 GMT -8
Lacking are NSC articulated cars, NSC stand alone well cars with less ribs.
The Maxi IV have newer versions with different end sill and walkway arrangements. Even the newer NSC articulated have updated walkways and IBC storage boxes.
There different types of articilated well cars buy NSC and others thst need to be done. Check out a double stack trains. There is much more varity in the types of cars out there.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 30, 2019 8:03:51 GMT -8
The Maxi IV have newer versions with different end sill and walkway arrangements. Intermountain makes an early and a late Maxi IV. So there's one later than "late"? Ed |
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Post by 12bridge on Apr 30, 2019 8:56:59 GMT -8
I still think the biggest thing we are missing in HO Intermodal is open top containers, in 20' and 40'.
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Post by gevohogger on Apr 30, 2019 10:08:38 GMT -8
Check out a double stack trains. There is much more varity in the types of cars out there. They all look the same from the locomotive, looking back at them in the side mirror. |
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Post by ac4400 on Apr 30, 2019 11:21:24 GMT -8
Does anyone knows when the 53'wells from Rapido will arrive?
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Post by jonklein611 on Apr 30, 2019 11:30:51 GMT -8
Does anyone knows when the 53'wells from Rapido will arrive? They showed up in one of their recent YouTube videos and I think on Facebook. Seems like soonish. Website shows June of 2019. |
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Post by rapidotrains on Apr 30, 2019 13:06:11 GMT -8
Our well cars are leaving the factory in a few weeks and will indeed be here in late June, all going well. Photo below. Workers are cleaning up the diecast bodies. -Jason  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 16:53:04 GMT -8
Check out a double stack trains. There is much more varity in the types of cars out there. They all look the same from the locomotive, looking back at them in the side mirror. This is the same kind of thinking about boxcars, they all look the same. You look at the train, but you don't see the train. Open your eye's. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 16:57:00 GMT -8
The Maxi IV have newer versions with different end sill and walkway arrangements. Intermountain makes an early and a late Maxi IV. So there's one later than "late"? Ed Yes, there later versions. Different end sills, stronger, different steps and grabs, and the brake wheel is on the side of the car. The Intermountian cars are very dated. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:07:48 GMT -8
Our well cars are leaving the factory in a few weeks and will indeed be here in late June, all going well. Photo below. Workers are cleaning up the diecast bodies. -Jason I glad these are finally coming out after three years, but the prototypes have been around for many years. Modern, no, but welcomed none the less. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Apr 30, 2019 17:09:24 GMT -8
What era of car/timeframe are you looking for? Modern can mean anything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 17:12:56 GMT -8
What era of car/timeframe are you looking for? Modern can mean anything. Modern is now, today, this minute. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 30, 2019 17:28:59 GMT -8
That would work for me, though I'm still waiting for good models of the USRA double sheathed box car.
Ed
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Post by ANDY117 on Apr 30, 2019 18:00:52 GMT -8
FreightCar America is also building 3X53' cars now, and the 5X40' DynaStacks would make an interesting model.
Hopefully Rapido makes the Ferromex Husky Stack cars that came out last year, the only real changes were the new handrails.
On a related note, still no MSW spine cars and short 20' containers? I thought Atlas would have made them years ago.
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Post by ac4400 on Apr 30, 2019 22:09:30 GMT -8
In HO I'm also missing the Gunderson articulated Maxi III with 5 x 40' wells.
They would sell!
Athearn?
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Post by brakie on May 1, 2019 4:44:50 GMT -8
They all look the same from the locomotive, looking back at them in the side mirror. This is the same kind of thinking about boxcars, they all look the same. You look at the train, but you don't see the train. Open your eye's. Trouble is he is correct.. As a former brakeman I can tell you all boxcars look the same and only modelers worry about the difference. All I cared about was the car number and where to spot the fool thing and not the manufacturer, size, and certainly not the number of ribs. I didn't get paid to worry about such things and I seriously doubt if the fellas in the car shop worried about such things.. |
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Post by riogrande on May 1, 2019 5:01:04 GMT -8
As a former brakeman I can tell you all boxcars look the same and only modelers worry about the difference. All I cared about was the car number and where to spot the fool thing and not the manufacturer, size, and certainly not the number of ribs. I didn't get paid to worry about such things and I seriously doubt if the fellas in the car shop worried about such things.. But such is not the case with many of the forum members here. Since they are rail fans and want to replicate what they see in model form, it's logical they would want to run models which fulfill that wish. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 5:33:49 GMT -8
This is the same kind of thinking about boxcars, they all look the same. You look at the train, but you don't see the train. Open your eye's. Trouble is he is correct.. As a former brakeman I can tell you all boxcars look the same and only modelers worry about the difference. All I cared about was the car number and where to spot the fool thing and not the manufacturer, size, and certainly not the number of ribs. I didn't get paid to worry about such things and I seriously doubt if the fellas in the car shop worried about such things.. We are talking model trains, not your job experences. I really don't know how your posting adds anything to the discission. Perhaps you like cookie cutter trains, but myself, as well as others, want to replicate the varity we see day to day. |
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Post by brakie on May 1, 2019 6:09:42 GMT -8
As a former brakeman I can tell you all boxcars look the same and only modelers worry about the difference. All I cared about was the car number and where to spot the fool thing and not the manufacturer, size, and certainly not the number of ribs. I didn't get paid to worry about such things and I seriously doubt if the fellas in the car shop worried about such things.. But such is not the case with many of the forum members here. Since they are rail fans and want to replicate what they see in model form, it's logical they would want to run models which fulfill that wish. Jim, As I mention I doubt if carmen worry about such details. As a fella once told me we are model railroaders and that includes understanding railroads through the eyes of real railroaders. I've seen modelers that has great knowledge in cars and locomotives but lack the basic knowledge to build a believable layout as far as track design. I won't mention the warp speed of their trains as they fly around the layout and fly through low speed crossovers and cuss the switches because their train hit the ground. As far as railfanning I done that since I was seven and can tell you upfront there is no time to count the ribs at track speed that's where freight car books come in handy or better still visit the manufacturers web site. BTW. If one can count ribs he would be better off to watch for any danger such as ballast dust, loose banding flapping the breeze and other warning signs because they are to close to the track. |
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Post by brakie on May 1, 2019 6:17:23 GMT -8
Trouble is he is correct.. As a former brakeman I can tell you all boxcars look the same and only modelers worry about the difference. All I cared about was the car number and where to spot the fool thing and not the manufacturer, size, and certainly not the number of ribs. I didn't get paid to worry about such things and I seriously doubt if the fellas in the car shop worried about such things.. We are talking model trains, not your job experences. I really don't know how your posting adds anything to the discission. Perhaps you like cookie cutter trains, but myself, as well as others, want to replicate the varity we see day to day. The man is still correct.. From the engine mirror they all look the same. I have the higher detail cars and locomotives and like I did while working as a brakeman I pay no attention to details because I am focus on the car number and work that needs to be done. I'll bet if your switching a industry you eyes is not on the details of the car but,the work that you are doing. |
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Post by riogrande on May 1, 2019 6:34:40 GMT -8
Larry, you've made your point "they all look the same, yada yada", we get it, but this topic is about wanting models that match specific inter-modal cars - nuff said.
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Post by gevohogger on May 1, 2019 6:37:16 GMT -8
They all look the same from the locomotive, looking back at them in the side mirror. This is the same kind of thinking about boxcars, they all look the same. You look at the train, but you don't see the train. Open your eye's. Oh, get off the high horse. You were the one who admonished us to look closer at stack trains after the other posters mentioned the eighteen stack car models we already have. Did I over-react? Perhaps. There are many aspects to this hobby that are being ignored; don't blame the many others who aren't on exactly your same wavelength. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 6:39:28 GMT -8
But such is not the case with many of the forum members here. Since they are rail fans and want to replicate what they see in model form, it's logical they would want to run models which fulfill that wish. Jim, As I mention I doubt if carmen worry about such details. As a fella once told me we are model railroaders and that includes understanding railroads through the eyes of real railroaders. I've seen modelers that has great knowledge in cars and locomotives but lack the basic knowledge to build a believable layout as far as track design. I won't mention the warp speed of their trains as they fly around the layout and fly through low speed crossovers and cuss the switches because their train hit the ground. As far as railfanning I done that since I was seven and can tell you upfront there is no time to count the ribs at track speed that's where freight car books come in handy or better still visit the manufacturers web site. BTW. If one can count ribs he would be better off to watch for any danger such as ballast dust, loose banding flapping the breeze and other warning signs because they are to close to the track. What part of model trains do you not understand? Trains don't travel at wrap speed. If your so close to a moving train you may get hit with something your a moron. You can't see the cars being that close anyway. Cars sit in yards, trains leaving yards move slowly. Standing at a station is safe enough. Plenty of chances to see cars safely. I really don't understand why your posting on a model train site. Your better off taking your war stories to a site of former railroaders. Perhaps they well be relevent there. |
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Post by snootie3257 on May 1, 2019 6:39:49 GMT -8
There’s a bigger need for auto racks IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 6:42:15 GMT -8
There’s a bigger need for auto racks IMO. Steve There is a need for both and much more. |
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Post by rapidotrains on May 1, 2019 7:08:12 GMT -8
There’s a bigger need for auto racks IMO. Steve There is the biggest need for NSC autoracks. I say that because I need them on my layout....  The trouble with making autoracks from a manufacturing perspective is you have to charge passenger car prices for them. While that is OK for four or five passenger cars, it's not feasible if you are trying to fill a yard with autoracks. Were we to make a run of NSC autoracks we would probably have to charge close to $100 for them otherwise we would not even break even. That's too much for an autorack. Especially if you want to add vehicles afterwards, it becomes a $200 freight car! -Jason |
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Post by roadkill on May 1, 2019 7:15:47 GMT -8
There’s a bigger need for auto racks IMO. Steve There is the biggest need for NSC autoracks. I say that because I need them on my layout.... The trouble with making autoracks from a manufacturing perspective is you have to charge passenger car prices for them. While that is OK for four or five passenger cars, it's not feasible if you are trying to fill a yard with autoracks. Were we to make a run of NSC autoracks we would probably have to charge close to $100 for them otherwise we would not even break even. That's too much for an autorack. Especially if you want to add vehicles afterwards, it becomes a $200 freight car! -Jason Modern modelers have the luxury of having fully enclosed auto racks, we '70s modelers are are the ones that have to add vehicles  LOL!!! |
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Post by brakie on May 1, 2019 7:51:12 GMT -8
Jim, As I mention I doubt if carmen worry about such details. As a fella once told me we are model railroaders and that includes understanding railroads through the eyes of real railroaders. I've seen modelers that has great knowledge in cars and locomotives but lack the basic knowledge to build a believable layout as far as track design. I won't mention the warp speed of their trains as they fly around the layout and fly through low speed crossovers and cuss the switches because their train hit the ground. As far as railfanning I done that since I was seven and can tell you upfront there is no time to count the ribs at track speed that's where freight car books come in handy or better still visit the manufacturers web site. BTW. If one can count ribs he would be better off to watch for any danger such as ballast dust, loose banding flapping the breeze and other warning signs because they are to close to the track. What part of model trains do you not understand? Trains don't travel at wrap speed. If your so close to a moving train you may get hit with something your a moron. You can't see the cars being that close anyway. Cars sit in yards, trains leaving yards move slowly. Standing at a station is safe enough. Plenty of chances to see cars safely. I really don't understand why your posting on a model train site. Your better off taking your war stories to a site of former railroaders. Perhaps they well be relevent there. What part of " the warp speed of their trains as they fly around the layout and fly through low speed crossovers and cuss the switches because their train hit the ground" don't you understand? I been around many of these fellas since the days of the old Atlas forum. Jim and I been talking for years on various forums and I consider him a forum friend. I always add a bit of prototype information if it applies and it did since Gevohugger mention how they look alike in the engines mirror. You looking along the sides of cars so, they do indeed look alike. |
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