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Post by rapidotrains on Oct 13, 2019 11:11:09 GMT -8
The latest Rapido News is now online: conta.cc/2McSwcdThis includes: - new tooling updates - order deadlines - now for the HO ten wheelers and October 31 for FL9 and N Canadian stuff - F9B/F7B relaunch - delivery schedule - and more Thanks for reading, Jason
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Post by cemr5396 on Oct 13, 2019 15:07:42 GMT -8
Wild speculation may now commence!!
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Post by brakie on Oct 13, 2019 15:36:35 GMT -8
I also love "Love that locomotive on the left"(in the photo)..A museum quality SW1500 would capture my attention.
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Post by cp6027 on Oct 13, 2019 16:09:47 GMT -8
Wild speculation may now commence!! Already started in the “Trainfest 19 Guesses” thread! I’m glad to hear the B-units are finally moving forward!
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Post by cp6027 on Oct 13, 2019 16:10:48 GMT -8
I also love "Love that locomotive on the left"(in the photo)..A museum quality SW1500 would capture my attention. But the locomotive on the left is a GMD-1?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 16:23:43 GMT -8
It would be interesting if they were scanning one of the steam locos, but Wikipedia indicates that there is an Alco PA on site which may be more complementary to the existing Rapido product line.
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Post by brakie on Oct 14, 2019 1:04:08 GMT -8
I also love "Love that locomotive on the left"(in the photo)..A museum quality SW1500 would capture my attention. But the locomotive on the left is a GMD-1? D'oh! You are correct.. I had to look it up on line.. It's Oregon Pacific's GMD1
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Post by sd80mac on Oct 14, 2019 4:52:18 GMT -8
ORHS currently has an SW10, PA, RSD-5 and a GMD-1 on site as far as diesels go. My bet is on the SW10 or PA, personally.
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 22, 2019 17:44:54 GMT -8
Bumping this in order to get some explanation of what will happen to the soon-to-be B36-7 owners.
The trucks have been shown to be incorrect for most of the units that are being produced this run. Dual snubbers instead of open bearings, etc. And from what I see, it isn't going to be something simple to fix on our end.
Rapido? Are you going to make a run of proper sideframes to satisfy this pretty big oversight?
-concered customer with two of said locomotives inbound.
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Post by cemr5396 on Oct 22, 2019 18:57:27 GMT -8
Bumping this in order to get some explanation of what will happen to the soon-to-be B36-7 owners. The trucks have been shown to be incorrect for most of the units that are being produced this run. Dual snubbers instead of open bearings, etc. And from what I see, it isn't going to be something simple to fix on our end. Rapido? Are you going to make a run of proper sideframes to satisfy this pretty big oversight? -concered customer with two of said locomotives inbound. how has nobody noticed that before now? It's one thing for Rapido to miss it, that kind of stuff happens. But in all the photos they have put out of these models before now, nobody else saw it either??
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 22, 2019 19:11:49 GMT -8
I noticed it on one of the previous shots for a different unit, but it was brought up by a few people today on their latest photo showing the CSX and SBD units. It seems to be a problem of execution, being as they did tool up at least one set of proper sideframes on the preproduction models.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 5:29:04 GMT -8
Bumping this in order to get some explanation of what will happen to the soon-to-be B36-7 owners. The trucks have been shown to be incorrect for most of the units that are being produced this run. Dual snubbers instead of open bearings, etc. And from what I see, it isn't going to be something simple to fix on our end. Rapido? Are you going to make a run of proper sideframes to satisfy this pretty big oversight? -concered customer with two of said locomotives inbound. While we are it, let’s hear some answers on the stepwells not being correct, either... I have four on reserve and I’m not happy about these two issues.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 5:43:02 GMT -8
how has nobody noticed that before now? It's one thing for Rapido to miss it, that kind of stuff happens. But in all the photos they have put out of these models before now, nobody else saw it either?? There have been only two previous photos of the CSX models posted to Facebook until yesterday, one was a painted but incomplete body shell (no frame or trucks) and the other was a high-angle wedge shot that didn’t show the trucks clearly...
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Post by bcrmlw on Oct 23, 2019 14:58:55 GMT -8
Well, they fired the guy that was leading the B36-7 project, so I'd guess whoever took over isn't as knowledgable on the subject Hopefully they come with decent motors unlike a good portion of the RS-18's
-Trevor
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Post by delta767332er on Oct 23, 2019 14:59:10 GMT -8
Bumping this in order to get some explanation of what will happen to the soon-to-be B36-7 owners. The trucks have been shown to be incorrect for most of the units that are being produced this run. Dual snubbers instead of open bearings, etc. And from what I see, it isn't going to be something simple to fix on our end. Rapido? Are you going to make a run of proper sideframes to satisfy this pretty big oversight? -concered customer with two of said locomotives inbound. While we are it, let’s hear some answers on the stepwells not being correct, either... I have four on reserve and I’m not happy about these two issues. The stepwell compromise for the SBD units was an upfront and conscious economic tooling decision made a long time ago by the development team, and “accepted” by Gareth, who had great intentions to make this a model we would all be happy with. CSX modelers lost out on which variation was produced, as we usually do. Everything else has been a debauchery of handing the project off to someone who did not have the passion or knowledge to see the project through at the level Gareth wanted to, and that’s why the once-revered Rapido B36-7 has now turned in to just another average release with preventable, unnecessary errors at a given development cost. Included in the downfall was the loss/un-use of ultra-accurate, heavily-researched artwork for each SBD and CSX unit. It was mind-blowingly good (read: accurate). The production (in-house) artwork is.....very average.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 15:02:49 GMT -8
While we are it, let’s hear some answers on the stepwells not being correct, either... I have four on reserve and I’m not happy about these two issues. The stepwell compromise for the SBD units was an upfront and conscious economic tooling decision made a long time ago by the development team, and “accepted” by Gareth, who had great intentions to make this a model we would all be happy with. CSX modelers lost out on which variation was produced, as we usually do. Everything else has been a debauchery of handing the project off to someone who did not have the passion or knowledge to see the project through at the level Gareth wanted to, and that’s why the once-revered Rapido B36-7 has now turned in to just another average release with preventable, unnecessary errors at a given development cost. Included in the downfall was the loss/un-use of ultra-accurate, heavily-researched artwork for each SBD and CSX unit. It was mind-blowingly good (read: accurate). The production (in-house) artwork is.....very average.
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 23, 2019 15:05:38 GMT -8
Crickets here, crickets on facebook, crickets everywhere.
Gotta love the constant ducking.
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Post by NJT4130 on Oct 23, 2019 15:10:45 GMT -8
The stepwell compromise for the SBD units was an upfront and conscious economic tooling decision made a long time ago by the development team, and “accepted” by Gareth, who had great intentions to make this a model we would all be happy with. CSX modelers lost out on which variation was produced, as we usually do. Everything else has been a debauchery of handing the project off to someone who did not have the passion or knowledge to see the project through at the level Gareth wanted to, and that’s why the once-revered Rapido B36-7 has now turned in to just another average release with preventable, unnecessary errors at a given development cost. Included in the downfall was the loss/un-use of ultra-accurate, heavily-researched artwork for each SBD and CSX unit. It was mind-blowingly good (read: accurate). The production (in-house) artwork is.....very average. I hope I'm wrong on this, but I have noticed this too. There were issues with the Royal Hudsons, then the RS18's and now the B36's.... I am praying this is not a continuing trend (becoming too big and missing the finer details) or handling too many things at once. I have had nothing but great things from them, but lately I am a little worried. Many modelers seem to have wanted working strobes and unnumbered Comet cab cars (N scale is getting the unnumbered cab options at least), as two numbered cab cars (in the 3-car set) isn't enough. This seems like a very easy thing to rectify. We love Rapido and hope they look at these instances popping up. The B-36 issues are big. I feel for you guys. No one wants Rapido to go the way of certain other manufacturers. I have no problem paying a little extra for an accurate Rapido product. Martin
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Post by edwardsutorik on Oct 23, 2019 15:23:50 GMT -8
There were issues with the Royal Hudsons, then the RS18's and now the B36's.... And the NP RDC's. T'other hand, my F40PH appears to be something close to exquisite. I, too, do wonder if people are being pushed too hard. It's nice to have lotsa wonderful things all at once. It's even better when everything produced approaches perfection (see F40PH, above). I can wait. Ed
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Post by NJT4130 on Oct 23, 2019 15:31:30 GMT -8
Agreed, I love my Amtrak F40's and the fleet of NJT F40's on order.
Glad Jason talks to us and admits when mistakes were made along with keeping us in the loop. Soooo Jason.... with all due respect, we are kinda worried now with Rapido.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 15:55:12 GMT -8
Crickets here, crickets on facebook, crickets everywhere. Gotta love the constant ducking. No lie. I asked about the stepwells twice over there....the silence is deafening.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 16:00:59 GMT -8
While we are it, let’s hear some answers on the stepwells not being correct, either... I have four on reserve and I’m not happy about these two issues. The stepwell compromise for the SBD units was an upfront and conscious economic tooling decision made a long time ago by the development team, and “accepted” by Gareth, who had great intentions to make this a model we would all be happy with. CSX modelers lost out on which variation was produced, as we usually do. Everything else has been a debauchery of handing the project off to someone who did not have the passion or knowledge to see the project through at the level Gareth wanted to, and that’s why the once-revered Rapido B36-7 has now turned in to just another average release with preventable, unnecessary errors at a given development cost. Included in the downfall was the loss/un-use of ultra-accurate, heavily-researched artwork for each SBD and CSX unit. It was mind-blowingly good (read: accurate). The production (in-house) artwork is.....very average. That must’ve been some private correspondence I wasn’t in on, I have no recollection of the stepwell compromise being explicitly stated, but I do recall the phrase “CSX specific pilots” being bandied about in the announcement blurb. It was a factor in my ordering all three numbers, regrettably. I’ve already been given the straight dope about the lettering mistakes by our esteemed mutual colleague. What a shame.
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 23, 2019 16:04:09 GMT -8
Crickets here, crickets on facebook, crickets everywhere. Gotta love the constant ducking. No lie. I asked about the stepwells twice over there....the silence is deafening. But they can reply to remarks about working sanders. So, you know, priorities.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 16:08:15 GMT -8
Yep. I must say I’m getting less and less impressed with the situation, to put it mildly.
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 23, 2019 16:15:39 GMT -8
Bare with me, as I'm going to step on the soap box again here.
I'm getting tired of these companies parading around on social media, answering silly questions or replying to wishlists, yet skipping the comments about real issues or problems that need to be addressed. Something so simple as "We are aware and are working on a plan to satisfy all of our customers" would go a long way, yet how many of the big players seem to be doing that? None. ATSF red, incorrect trucks, nose parting lines, etc, etc. It's no one company guilty of this, either.
In this thread alone is well over 1000 dollars worth of Rapido B36-7 customers. I truly believe Rapido will rectify the truck issue, but this is just poor customer service. I know we, as prototype modelers, can be some tough customers at times. Some would say brash or what have you, but we are all willing to part with some money in exchange for these products. And most are even willing to help those not well versed enough for the small price of FREE.
Let's hear it, Rapido.
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Post by csx3305 on Oct 23, 2019 16:17:29 GMT -8
I’m well over 1,000 US dollars worth of B36-7s BY MYSELF...seven on reserve across two sources....
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Post by 12bridge on Oct 23, 2019 16:42:37 GMT -8
Bare with me, as I'm going to step on the soap box again here. I'm getting tired of these companies parading around on social media, answering silly questions or replying to wishlists, yet skipping the comments about real issues or problems that need to be addressed. Something so simple as "We are aware and are working on a plan to satisfy all of our customers" would go a long way, yet how many of the big players seem to be doing that? None. ATSF red, incorrect trucks, nose parting lines, etc, etc. It's no one company guilty of this, either. In this thread alone is well over 1000 dollars worth of Rapido B36-7 customers. I truly believe Rapido will rectify the truck issue, but this is just poor customer service. I know we, as prototype modelers, can be some tough customers at times. Some would say brash or what have you, but we are all willing to part with some money in exchange for these products. And most are even willing to help those not well versed enough for the small price of FREE. Let's hear it, Rapido. When I bought this issue up, I was practically run out of town. No company is immune to issues, and how they handle them, sometimes really poorly. Including Rapido.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Oct 23, 2019 17:05:39 GMT -8
Something so simple as "We are aware and are working on a plan to satisfy all of our customers" would go a long way, yet how many of the big players seem to be doing that? None. In fairness, Athearn took a lot of heat recently when serious mistakes were noticed on their GMD GP38-2. You may not be interested in the subject matter (and thus may have missed it) but to their credit, Athearn (via Janek) did respond very much in the manner you describe. In another case, Rapido forgot to include the yellow rerail frogs in their F40PH-2Ds. A note in their newsletter and a request for my mailing address, and I had the missing frogs. In yet another case, Bowser messed up on the DB hatch on their SD40-2s and owned up to that as well, communicated to us and had it fixed for the next run. When Rapido showed pre-production samples of their Angus van back in 2009, response was swift, they responded and later fixed the errors. Remember these mfrs are busy making models for us to spend our discretionary income on. I am pretty sure they don't have the time to monitor every forum in real time. Sorry to disagree but let's give these mfrs some credit for their engagement efforts even if they don't respond immediately. Other mfrs (don't ask me to name them) don't respond at all, whether contacted offline or via forum. Those mfrs get very little of my business.
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Post by csxt8400 on Oct 23, 2019 17:29:11 GMT -8
Something so simple as "We are aware and are working on a plan to satisfy all of our customers" would go a long way, yet how many of the big players seem to be doing that? None. In fairness, Athearn took a lot of heat recently when serious mistakes were noticed on their GMD GP38-2. You may not be interested in the subject matter (and thus may have missed it) but to their credit, Athearn (via Janek) did respond very much in the manner you describe. In another case, Rapido forgot to include the yellow rerail frogs in their F40PH-2Ds. A note in their newsletter and a request for my mailing address, and I had the missing frogs. In yet another case, Bowser messed up on the DB hatch on their SD40-2s and owned up to that as well, communicated to us and had it fixed for the next run. When Rapido showed pre-production samples of their Angus van back in 2009, response was swift, they responded and later fixed the errors. Remember these mfrs are busy making models for us to spend our discretionary income on. I am pretty sure they don't have the time to monitor every forum in real time. Sorry to disagree but let's give these mfrs some credit for their engagement efforts even if they don't respond immediately. Other mfrs (don't ask me to name them) don't respond at all, whether contacted offline or via forum. Those mfrs get very little of my business. I definitely didn't miss the Athearn GMDD issues. I'm a WC modeler and was hoping that tooling would allow a fairly accurate ACR GP38-2 at some point. I have given Janek credit for being the proverbial dart board for Athearn. He does a good job at not being hostile and admitting issues that need fixing. Like I mentioned previously, I wish more people at the company strived for customer satisfaction as much as he does. To your overall point, I am not one to lambaste these companies about trivial issues just to do it. I do order a considerable amount of product from all of the major players. I haven't been able to get into the Rapido fan club yet, although I have pending orders for their improved 3800 cuft hopper and one flexi-flo as well. So, being as my first Rapido purchase is on the boat heading this way, I'm a little let down at what I'm most likely going to be getting once I open the box. I have faith in them to make this right, at least the truck portion, but the fact remains that it's not the best look to ignore certain comments when they are presented on multiple platforms. They posted on Facebook today, so they certainly are aware of the slew of comments relating to this issue. When you're spending this money, a little transparency would be nice.
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Post by pboilermaker on Oct 23, 2019 18:22:43 GMT -8
Which F40PH-2D models were missing rerail frogs and which newsletter mentioned the issue?
-Mike
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