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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 7:28:26 GMT -8
Now I do not have any skin in the game for this model. I do not need any of them. I do appreciate a nice model though. Looking over the photos of the model, I see a missing detail. The photos are preproduction so I hope for the sake of the customer that this detail is added for the production models.
The missing detail is the brakeaway stanchions for the end platform safety chain. The preproduction model does not show the safety chain. Nor do I see any accommodations in the deck for the stanchions.
What I see in the preproduction samples is an end platform without the safety chain. Open space between the two center stanchions.
Brian
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 7:49:54 GMT -8
Easy with the “vicious attacks”, Brian!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 8:01:28 GMT -8
Easy with the “vicious attacks”, Brian! I am waiting for the hate mail. But that is OK. It is a reasonable question. Brian
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 8:06:48 GMT -8
Prepare to have your modeling skills called into question. They’ll be calling you a whining, nitpicking, box-opener.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 8:29:59 GMT -8
Prepare to have your modeling skills called into question. They’ll be calling you a whining, nitpicking, box-opener. I will wear it as a badge of honor. Brian
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Post by NS4122 on Nov 3, 2019 10:47:51 GMT -8
At the 2:19 mark in this Rapido video, you can clearly see that it's there on the production models:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 12:00:55 GMT -8
I really like the dual pin installation of the handrails...another standard that the rest of the hobby should adopt, IMO.
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Post by westerntrains on Nov 3, 2019 12:21:20 GMT -8
When commenting about Rapido, Scale Trains, and to a lesser degree, Athearn, I guess we all have to observe "Lese majeste".
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Post by rapidobill on Nov 3, 2019 13:10:32 GMT -8
The Conrail and Santa Fe models on the web site we're hand built and painted and in all likelihood not complete. I will see if Mike can post some production model photos now that some some samples have arrived.
The end chains and brackets are there.
Bill
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Post by markfj on Nov 3, 2019 13:54:10 GMT -8
Those Conrail units look fantastic! However, I just watch a bunch of Dave Ramsey financial advice videos and suddenly feel the compulsion to save every nickel and dime to pay off my student loan debt. Thanks, Mark Reading, PA
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 14:06:40 GMT -8
I wonder how much trouble it would be to cut the engine room doors out and do a 6 door set...to do a b23-7?
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 14:27:40 GMT -8
When commenting about Rapido, Scale Trains, and to a lesser degree, Athearn, I guess we all have to observe "Lese majeste". You are welcome to do that, but I'm failing to understand why some keep making an "issue" out of treating model train companies with decency while pointing out inaccuracies with models Instead there are snarky comments about how it is forbidden to speak ill of said companies and accusing appreciative hobbyists as "fanboys". The promoted stance is to relentlesly hammer some MR companies about mistakes as if is is a holy crusade, almost life or death. Those who don't are believed to be the "happy with Tyco" crowd. There no middle ground apparently. I never said a word that could be remotely construed as negative about Rapido until the recent thread. (Rightly so, since I don’t as of yet own any of their product.) And I wouldn’t have done even that much if they hadn’t billed their B-boat as the end-all be-all it apparently won’t be. And the days-long silence, followed by the incredulous, self victimizing response from the company reps certainly hasn’t helped them in my opinion. But as far as I am concerned, NO ONE can deny there is a double standard that has revealed itself this past week, in regards to some companies being held to looser standards than others by their “fanboys”. If there’s one thing I detest in this world, it is hypocrisy and not judging things on an even plane. Furthermore, if you go back and look you will see that everybody coming to Rapido’s defense does not model the CSX roads, or in some cases even the years that the prototypes were active. In other words, they have no dog in the fight. Conversely, I bet if it was a Pennsy or ATSF or UP unit in question with errors, I bet we would be hearing a lot more about it...
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Post by NS4122 on Nov 3, 2019 16:24:43 GMT -8
You are welcome to do that, but I'm failing to understand why some keep making an "issue" out of treating model train companies with decency while pointing out inaccuracies with models Instead there are snarky comments about how it is forbidden to speak ill of said companies and accusing appreciative hobbyists as "fanboys". The promoted stance is to relentlesly hammer some MR companies about mistakes as if is is a holy crusade, almost life or death. Those who don't are believed to be the "happy with Tyco" crowd. There no middle ground apparently. Conversely, I bet if it was a Pennsy or ATSF or UP unit in question with errors, I bet we would be hearing a lot more about it... Not necessarily, when the "revered" Blaine Hadfield released his PRR H39 with a "level of detail not seen in decades" with the ridiculous 50 ton trucks on a 70 ton car and graphics errors, his groupies sloughed it off with an "Oh well stuff happens" to quote one of the most frequent posters on this forum.
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 16:49:22 GMT -8
LOL, “revered?”
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 17:08:13 GMT -8
When commenting about Rapido, Scale Trains, and to a lesser degree, Athearn, I guess we all have to observe "Lese majeste". You are welcome to do that, but I'm failing to understand why some keep making an "issue" out of treating model train companies with decency while pointing out inaccuracies with models Instead there are snarky comments about how it is forbidden to speak ill of said companies and accusing appreciative hobbyists as "fanboys". The promoted stance is to relentlesly hammer some MR companies about mistakes as if is is a holy crusade, almost life or death. Those who don't are believed to be the "happy with Tyco" crowd. There no middle ground apparently. Consider it this way, Jim..... If Rapido were to go 3D scan a Rio Grande GP30 at a museum somewhere, make a big splashy ad about it and persuade you to reserve every number they planned to offer, then 21 months later, mailed them to your door and you open them to find that they all lack nose Gyralights (the number one feature that defines them as DRGW).....would your feelings be more in line with mine at the moment? I’m betting so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 17:38:47 GMT -8
The Conrail and Santa Fe models on the web site we're hand built and painted and in all likelihood not complete. I will see if Mike can post some production model photos now that some some samples have arrived. The end chains and brackets are there. Bill Bill, That is great to know. Thanks for filling us in. Brian
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 18:19:31 GMT -8
When commenting about Rapido, Scale Trains, and to a lesser degree, Athearn, I guess we all have to observe "Lese majeste". You are welcome to do that, but I'm failing to understand why some keep making an "issue" out of treating model train companies with decency while pointing out inaccuracies with models Instead there are snarky comments about how it is forbidden to speak ill of said companies and accusing appreciative hobbyists as "fanboys". The promoted stance is to relentlesly hammer some MR companies about mistakes as if is is a holy crusade, almost life or death. Those who don't are believed to be the "happy with Tyco" crowd. There no middle ground apparently. I completely agree with Jim. My perception gained from reading numerous posts and topics on these forums is that certain companies absolutely cannot do anything wrong whatsoever, while others are basically dog poo. I do not appreciate the apparent double standards in play. I do agree that treating companies with decency while pointing out potential issues should be more the rule than the exception. Jack
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 18:20:20 GMT -8
Conversely, I bet if it was a Pennsy or ATSF or UP unit in question with errors, I bet we would be hearing a lot more about it... Not necessarily, when the revered Blaine Hadfield released his PRR H39 with a "level of detail not seen in decades" with the ridiculous 50 ton trucks on a 70 ton car and graphics errors, his groupies sloughed it off with an "Oh well stuff happens" to quote one of the most frequent posters on this forum. I would have to say Blaine was right about "level of detail not seen in decades". I would change that to "Level of detail NEVER seen before in HO scale models". No manufacturer to date has produced a freight car to the level of detail of a static model kit like Arrowhead has done. Now his first offering may have been incorrect with the type of trucks and lettering (no excuse for that), but the level of detail is different. The level of detail far exceeds any manufacturer. Paint still looks a little thick, but again. The detail level is SUPERB! I see only one thing he can improve on, not including correct trucks and lettering, that is a thinner coat of paint. Brian
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Post by rapidobill on Nov 3, 2019 18:24:27 GMT -8
The Conrail and Santa Fe models on the web site we're hand built and painted and in all likelihood not complete. I will see if Mike can post some production model photos now that some some samples have arrived. The end chains and brackets are there. Bill Bill, That is great to know. Thanks for filling us in. Brian No problem. This is often an issue that pops up when all we have to show early on are hand finished model samples. Unfortunately, as newer projects demand attention, updating web images on projects that have passed the order stage often falls by the wayside. It did when I managed the web site, and still does now. Sadly, you can only fit so much into a 60 hour week... 😉 Oh, and FWIW I am quite familiar with your modeling and enjoy the photos. Keep it coming! Bill
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Post by NS4122 on Nov 3, 2019 18:29:38 GMT -8
If you look at the original thread someone even regarded him as a "super hero". LOL
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 3, 2019 18:34:12 GMT -8
If you look at the original thread someone even regarded him as a "super hero". LOL I must have missed that one. No Arrowhead products on my roster as of yet, but depending on which roads he does on the 4600 Centerflows, that could change in a big way.
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Post by Donnell Wells on Nov 4, 2019 12:07:33 GMT -8
Well, what we're not going to do is turn this thread about the Rapido B36-7 into an Arrowhead/Blaine Hatfield bashing session. Stick to the topic.
Thank you, Donnell
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Post by NS4122 on Nov 7, 2019 9:41:33 GMT -8
Are the B36-7s close to arriving?
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Post by carrman on Nov 7, 2019 9:47:31 GMT -8
Are the B36-7s close to arriving? Per a Facebook post last night, they are at Rapido.
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Post by lvrr325 on Nov 7, 2019 10:42:00 GMT -8
If you missed the pre-orders and changed your mind, sometimes I can get an extra one or two.
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 7, 2019 12:26:53 GMT -8
There might be at least seven that don’t get claimed.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Nov 7, 2019 18:21:47 GMT -8
Looking at the new Photos posted all the Models have the same truck sideframes with shocks on both axles. I ordered 1 Southern and looks like it is going to need a new set of sideframes! UGH
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Post by csxt8400 on Nov 7, 2019 20:21:19 GMT -8
Yep, looks like most everyone is going to be waiting a bit for sideframes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 5:56:55 GMT -8
Yep, looks like most everyone is going to be waiting a bit for sideframes. So how much more does it cost to do quality control BEFORE the model is released? Brian
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Post by csx3305 on Nov 8, 2019 6:24:40 GMT -8
Considering that the guy who started the project was apparently shown the door shortly after announcement, it might just be a QAQC problem that originated in Ontario, not China.
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