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Post by snootie3257 on Dec 17, 2019 10:21:03 GMT -8
Memory was fuzzy on that. Maybe it was Wendy's that had the "where's the beef" with Clara Peller commercial. Yes “Where’s the beef” was from Wendy’s. Steve
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 17, 2019 17:28:41 GMT -8
Ryan, your gondola projects are excellent! I feel like that's one type of freight car that we we could use a lot more quality models of. You did a great job of creating some unique models. One technique I use to mount Moloco coupler boxes on this type of car (or hoppers with their open ends) is to use a piece of styrene rod (or sprue) instead of the mounting screw that goes through the floor. I glue the coupler box in place, then drill through the screw mounting hold into the floor above, glue a piece of styrene rod in the hole, and slide off the excess on top. Clean up with putty / filler if needed. I think of it as a way of permanently integrating the coupler box into the floor with a solid glue bond. This work a little better on the non-cushioned Moloco pockets, where the single screw that's closer to the striker can hold the lid on, but it can be done with cushioned draft gear too. Dave Olsen Thanks, Dave. I think a few of us are on the same page thinking about gondolas lately. The recent thread on MFCL rounding up 52'-53' gondola models is a great example of that. Gondolas are different throughout the years and often so specific to a single railroad it's difficult to find models to fill out the train. I wonder if the various E&C Shops gondolas went to Intermountain, through whatever deal got them all the old LBF tooling...
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Post by stottman on Dec 18, 2019 2:12:49 GMT -8
Almost done turning this old Tyco kit into a accurate model. Took almost 10 hours of research for each hour of modeling to figure out key details. Poured many hours into making the best example of a later 70s era Burger King. The first ones in Spokane and Coeur d'Alene exactly like this one opened in 1978. Now part of a commercial district on the River City Modelers layout in Spokane. That is absolutely outstanding! I have a Vollmer Burger King that I'd like to use, but I'm dreading the research phase. These big companies are so good at updating their images that like you said, the research is intense just to figure out how to backdate and recreate the graphics. But it really sets the bar on realism when these "everyday" models we all recognize are done right. Please feel free to post more details. The Vollmer BK is (no surprise) is based on a standard German Burger King. You can get a "close enough" American model, but needless to say, its not going to be exact. Biggest difference is windows in the kitchen / office area.
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Post by riogrande on Dec 18, 2019 5:38:15 GMT -8
Thanks, Dave. I think a few of us are on the same page thinking about gondolas lately. The recent thread on MFCL rounding up 52'-53' gondola models is a great example of that. Gondolas are different throughout the years and often so specific to a single railroad it's difficult to find models to fill out the train. I wonder if the various E&C Shops gondolas went to Intermountain, through whatever deal got them all the old LBF tooling... Good solution mounting coupler boxes without a screw but using styrene rod as a dowel to give a strong mount of the coupler box. I followed the comments on MFCL discussing 53' gondola models with some interest. Some years ago there were a number of articles in Model Railroading Magazine and Rail Model Journal which examined the E&C and Walthers kit gondolas, which included straight rib side and corrugated types. The Walthers 53' rib side kit gondola was only found to match a 100 car series of SP gondolas. It was fairly close to a series of D&RGW gondolas but the rib spacing in the middle was different - the model is a pretty close stand-in however. The Walthers kit 53' corrugated gondola wasn't credited with matching any prototype in the article I read. The Walthers 65' mill gondola was said to be a match to two series, one for Burlington Northern and the other Rio Grande. The E&C corrugated 53' gondola was discussed in an article as only matching Missouri Pacific gondola's and were later repainted into UP after the absorption. I don't recall what matches, if any, were found for the E&C 53' gondola. I've only purchased from the Walthers and E&C kit gondola's those which were confirmed to match real gondola's, and a stand-in Rio Grande because it was pretty close. Walthers has come out with RTR 53' gondola's that come from newer tooling - I haven't done a study on them but they are visually pretty close to D&RGW gondola's so I bought them. Not a perfect match but a decent stand-in IIRC. Here is the Walthers kit gon (top) and Walthers RTR gon (bottom). The problem with gondola's discussed in the articles is manufacturers were constantly changing the designs so there weren't many roads that owned the same design.
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