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Post by sd80mac on Jul 15, 2020 8:44:59 GMT -8
The GTW GP9 and CR GP38-2 samples look awesome! Looking forward to these, though my wallet is not!
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Post by jstevens on Jul 15, 2020 9:05:16 GMT -8
One thing which made me giggle this week was the inundation of requests for different Utah Railway locomotives. While I personally have no reason to obtain Utah Railway anything, something about that paint scheme just grabs onto me. The requests for Utah Railway's two unusual locomotive classes, the MK5000/MK50-3's and the Australian-built SD50S's are interesting one. While I primarily model late SP-early UP in Nevada, I would definitely snag all of the above, they're all just cool motors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 11:01:33 GMT -8
One thing which made me giggle this week was the inundation of requests for different Utah Railway locomotives. While I personally have no reason to obtain Utah Railway anything, something about that paint scheme just grabs onto me. The requests for Utah Railway's two unusual locomotive classes, the MK5000/MK50-3's and the Australian-built SD50S's are interesting one. While I primarily model late SP-early UP in Nevada, I would definitely snag all of the above, they're all just cool motors. Same. I would definitely grab them being unique models.
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Post by jonklein611 on Jul 15, 2020 11:10:14 GMT -8
Modern Amtrak auto racks would be nice! Are there any other owners for that prototype besides Amtrak, CN, and CP? Just the builder, I think. Kato did a set in N, but I doubt they'd do it in HO, as they tend to support tighter radii in HO.
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Post by ncrc5315 on Jul 15, 2020 15:56:12 GMT -8
One thing which made me giggle this week was the inundation of requests for different Utah Railway locomotives. While I personally have no reason to obtain Utah Railway anything, something about that paint scheme just grabs onto me. The requests for Utah Railway's two unusual locomotive classes, the MK5000/MK50-3's and the Australian-built SD50S's are interesting one. While I primarily model late SP-early UP in Nevada, I would definitely snag all of the above, they're all just cool motors. Same. I would definitely grab them being unique models. Have no fear, I'm putting together what I need to build the KYLE MK50-3. I'm sure as I near completion, they will be announced.
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Post by jstevens on Jul 16, 2020 6:56:00 GMT -8
Same. I would definitely grab them being unique models. Have no fear, I'm putting together what I need to build the KYLE MK50-3. I'm sure as I near completion, they will be announced. I'll start work on a Clyde-Engineering SD50S. I'll be nearly finished to the point of installing the couplers when somebody will announce them.
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Post by spsf on Jul 22, 2020 14:10:58 GMT -8
On our Train Tuesday this week, we showed samples of the upcoming Genesis P42s as well as the Genesis Cabooses (photos to come eventually).
We also announced that the next Train Tuesday will actually be on Friday, 7-31, next week. During that time we will be going over the announcement of our next Genesis 2.0 locomotive, a prototype that has appeal throughout much of North America.
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Post by gevohogger on Jul 22, 2020 14:13:33 GMT -8
On our Train Tuesday this week, we showed samples of the upcoming Genesis P42s as well as the Genesis Cabooses (photos to come eventually). We also announced that the next Train Tuesday will actually be on Friday, 7-31, next week. During that time we will be going over the announcement of our next Genesis 2.0 locomotive, a prototype that has appeal throughout much of North America. Obviously a P30CH!
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Post by mdvle on Jul 22, 2020 15:20:37 GMT -8
On our Train Tuesday this week, we showed samples of the upcoming Genesis P42s as well as the Genesis Cabooses (photos to come eventually). We also announced that the next Train Tuesday will actually be on Friday, 7-31, next week. During that time we will be going over the announcement of our next Genesis 2.0 locomotive, a prototype that has appeal throughout much of North America. Obviously a P30CH!
Yes, I see the emoji.
But last week they were explicit that it was Canada and the US, and much of both countries if I recall correctly.
Though I would guess a GE given how much talk of the new GE program they have done for the last while - perhaps a AC4400CW?
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 22, 2020 20:24:26 GMT -8
On our Train Tuesday this week, we showed samples of the upcoming Genesis P42s as well as the Genesis Cabooses (photos to come eventually). We also announced that the next Train Tuesday will actually be on Friday, 7-31, next week. During that time we will be going over the announcement of our next Genesis 2.0 locomotive, a prototype that has appeal throughout much of North America. Janek, Caught the video of the P42s and they look great! I hope the P32AC-DM will eventually be included in subsequent releases.
But you guys have got to consider doing passenger cars besides Bombardier cars (preferably scale length with interior lighting) to pair up with all the Amtrak & commuter locomotives that either has been announced or recently released into the stores.
For instance: the California & Surfliner cars (Amtrak F59PHi & P42)
Budd & Pullman Gallery Bi-Levels (AMT, Amtrak, C&NW, SP, METRA, Caltrain, BNSF, CPR, VRE) Nippon Sharyo Gallery Bi-Levels (VRE, METRA)
the new Siemens Venture passenger cars (Amtrak, Virgin Trains USA, VIA Rail)
Any one of these choices (preferably all) would be winners.
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Post by trainworm on Jul 22, 2020 21:40:04 GMT -8
Finally getting a good C30-7
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Post by lvrr325 on Jul 22, 2020 23:07:12 GMT -8
Didn't those MK5000s initially run on SP in SP paint?
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Post by WFN12 on Jul 23, 2020 2:03:46 GMT -8
Didn't those MK5000s initially run on SP in SP paint? There were 6 built. 3 demo and 3 delivered in SP paint. The two have different details and lengths I think.
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Post by gevohogger on Jul 23, 2020 3:31:21 GMT -8
Obviously a P30CH!
Yes, I see the emoji.
But last week they were explicit that it was Canada and the US, and much of both countries if I recall correctly.
Though I would guess a GE given how much talk of the new GE program they have done for the last while - perhaps a AC4400CW?
They said it was a locomotive that "had appeal across all of North America". That can still include the P30CH.... Who doesn't love the P30CH? It has worldwide appeal.
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Post by bncascadegreen on Jul 23, 2020 4:07:11 GMT -8
Next Genesis 2.0......although ST already has there’s our and I own a few. The C44-9W.......of coarse more SD60s especially Oakways would be GREAT too.....
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jul 23, 2020 4:27:11 GMT -8
If I was a betting man I'd put money on the next Genesis 2.0 locomotive being an upgraded existing Athearn model.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jul 23, 2020 4:27:26 GMT -8
AC6000CW or AC4400CW for next Genesis 2.0 locomotive is my guess
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Post by mdvle on Jul 23, 2020 5:33:02 GMT -8
On our Train Tuesday this week, we showed samples of the upcoming Genesis P42s as well as the Genesis Cabooses (photos to come eventually). Janek, Caught the video of the P42s and they look great! I hope the P32AC-DM will eventually be included in subsequent releases.
But you guys have got to consider doing passenger cars besides Bombardier cars (preferably scale length with interior lighting) to pair up with all the Amtrak & commuter locomotives that either has been announced or recently released into the stores.
For instance: the California & Surfliner cars (Amtrak F59PHi & P42)
Budd & Pullman Gallery Bi-Levels (AMT, Amtrak, C&NW, SP, METRA, Caltrain, BNSF, CPR, VRE) Nippon Sharyo Gallery Bi-Levels (VRE, METRA)
the new Siemens Venture passenger cars (Amtrak, Virgin Trains USA, VIA Rail)
Any one of these choices (preferably all) would be winners.
1) California/Sufliner - a running joke of sorts, mentioned as the "weekly request" in every Athearn Tuesday.
2) the smooth sided Gallery bi-levels have been done by others, the Budd cars Athearn on June 23 Athearn Tuesday it was indicated that they were interested in at least looking into the idea and they requested anyone who could help with research to contact them, as well as anyone who wanted them to express interest to help determine demand (help@athearn.com)
3) Siemens cars - likely have to look to Bachmann. If Bachmann have the exclusive license to do the Charger then it is likely they also have the license to do the cars, and if the don't then there isn't much incentive for any manufacturer to make them given that they can't be used to drive sales of a loco.
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Post by mdvle on Jul 23, 2020 9:39:36 GMT -8
Another comment in general about requests for brand new (in this case undelivered) prototypes.
The danger in rushing a model to market to quickly is you can end up with tooling that can't reflect the prototype - either due to changes found necessary in the first years of service or because subsequent versions haven't been released yet.
In the case of the Siemens Charger, we still don't know what either VIA or Amtrak's locos will look like beyond some artists impressions for marketing purposes, and we don't know if there will be any changes/variations to the passenger cars to reflect anything unique among the operator's individual requirements.
Better (if you want models that reflect the variations) to wait for them to actually enter service.
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Post by cp6027 on Jul 23, 2020 9:56:11 GMT -8
My guess is the SD70ACU in NS and all the CP red, heritage and military schemes.
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Post by rockfan on Jul 23, 2020 10:07:23 GMT -8
Budd bi levels? Don't forget CB&Q, RI, and possibly Milwaukee.
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Post by bdhicks on Jul 23, 2020 10:31:39 GMT -8
3) Siemens cars - likely have to look to Bachmann. If Bachmann have the exclusive license to do the Charger then it is likely they also have the license to do the cars, and if the don't then there isn't much incentive for any manufacturer to make them given that they can't be used to drive sales of a loco.
When Bachmann announced the Charger they also announced the Siemens passenger car and S70 LRV would follow.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jul 23, 2020 12:21:38 GMT -8
My guess is the SD70ACU in NS and all the CP red, heritage and military schemes. my heart wants, but the wallet is terrified.
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Post by mdvle on Jul 23, 2020 15:19:54 GMT -8
Got around to watching the recording of the July 21st edition - possible mistakes in recollection
- VIA/GO licensing - still waiting
04:10 - B&O/Chessie/SP caboose samples - very quick view and discussion - later this week photos should be taken with posting to the website to follow 11:00 - Amtrak P42 samples 23:20 - early paint samples of partial shells - Savage GP7u, Weyerhaeuser GP7 (red/white/blue) 30:00 - Question/Answer session - a request for questions other than simply yes/no style are you doing a model of X
30:00 - discussion of the quality control steps that happen. 34:30 - how they ended up working for a model railroad manufacturer 44:00 - general questions - ES44C4's - chances good - SD70ACU - weekly reminder - Chessie GP40-2 - more at some point - GP38-2 - 2021 release likely - SD70ACe - maybe Jan/Feb for next release announcement - Amtrak 50th - possibly, depends on what Amtrak plans and if it fits in with what Athearn can offer, they are in contact with Amtrak - FEC GP40-2 - new blue paint scheme for breast cancer - general answer, issue is licensing (both getting it and potential fees) - SP MT-4's - lighting upgrades being worked on, no timeline for announcement, maybe winter - samples of Big Boy's have arrived, should ship from factory this week with arrival September - UP (and other) Olympic units - again licensing issues - understanding is both IOC is expensive and only allow for products featuring the current Olympics (making past Olympics an impossibility) - otherwise if the licensing could be sorted out would like to do them
New announcement on July 31st - research greenlighted at the 2017 Orlando NMRA convention, many variations, it's all over North America
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Post by riogrande on Jul 23, 2020 16:37:16 GMT -8
From what understand the SP caboose appears to be a rerun of the C-50-5 only this time with a sound option and addition of ACI labels.
From the announcement:
SP/SSW FEATURES: C-50-5 body. First time in service version with ACI plate/COTS panel First time single roof-mounted marker lights on Southern Pacific models Improved Southern Pacific herald lettering font Single roof-mounted marker light on Cotton Belt models Accurate roof antenna and smoke jack.
I just looked a my Genesis SP C-50-5 caboose and it has COTS labels and single roof-mounted marker lights. First time? Maybe first time with those things plus the ACI label. I even mentioned it to Chris Palmerez when I talked to him last Feb at the Worlds Greatest Hobby show, he insisted the past run of C-50-5 SP bay window cabooses didn't have the single marker lights on the roof. Yet here I have one. I presently have 9 of the Genesis SP bay window cabooses (2 C-50-4 versions, 3 C-50-5's, 1 C-50-7, 1 C-50-8, and 2 C-50-9's.) I couldn't resist being an SP fan, especially when I found some at bargain prices.
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Post by mdvle on Jul 30, 2020 12:34:24 GMT -8
From Athearn's Facebook page:
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Post by amtrakfl9 on Jul 30, 2020 15:49:42 GMT -8
From their previous hints it sounds like it will be one of their new GE projects. Someone asked about an ES44C4 and they basically confirmed one was coming in Genesis 2.0 eventually, but if I would guess tomorrow's announcement will be a C30-7 or something similar.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 30, 2020 16:42:42 GMT -8
Wouldn't entirely mind a U33C.
Or even a Genesis U25B.
Ed
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Post by mdvle on Jul 30, 2020 18:17:09 GMT -8
Remember - the indicated of interest to much of the US and Canada - a lot of those older GE's didn't run in Canada.
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Post by jbilbrey on Jul 30, 2020 18:36:28 GMT -8
From Trainorders:
"Might as well start the thread about guessing, or 'armchair quarterbacking' what Athearn is going to announce this coming Friday. Here is what they have said publicly:
- Genesis 2.0
- LED lighting
- dual cube speakers
- will make West, mid-West, East, Mexico, and Canadian modelers happy
- got the green light 3 years ago for this brand new project"
It is going be hard to think of many U-boats that will make "West, mid-West, East, Mexico, and Canadian modelers happy;" the first one I can think of is the C36-7. I would like to see a Genesis AC4400CW, but it will likely be another variation of a GEVO-series locomotive.
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