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Post by 12bridge on Oct 17, 2020 10:32:01 GMT -8
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Post by sd50f on Oct 17, 2020 10:43:37 GMT -8
Very nice.
Might be one of those products that we buy to put in the foreground (especially with the doors open) and have the cheaper containers on trains or in the background. Nice paint on it too. I love the interior.
Timothy Dineen
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Post by edwardsutorik on Oct 17, 2020 11:25:48 GMT -8
It'd be nice if Trainworx studied those doors.
Ed
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Post by grabirons on Oct 17, 2020 14:25:33 GMT -8
For as much as containers are going for, these are only a little more than the other guys.
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Post by oldmuley on Oct 19, 2020 18:30:03 GMT -8
Who is selling these in the US?
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Post by el3672 on Oct 19, 2020 19:50:23 GMT -8
It'd be nice if Trainworx studied those doors. Ed At $30 plus for one trailer, lets study those 40' trailer doors? let's start by replacing the molded on door trailer rods with real metal rods and I'm good.
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Post by trainboyy on Apr 26, 2021 15:52:32 GMT -8
Who is selling these in the US? Currently there is nobody who sells these containers in the US, as a retailer or hobby shop. In Canada there are some shops, but they're selling them for around $27 US (35 CAD!) not including shipping and there's no way I'm paying that much for a container, let alone one without pins in the bottom like the PT containers are known to lack. It's a shame, they're really good and I'd love to pick up a handful. There's plenty of road names available that I'd love to buy, but I'll have to pass albeit temporarily. Will be keeping a watchful eye on whether the prices change. |
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Post by el3672 on Apr 26, 2021 19:04:00 GMT -8
This is getting crazy!! for us older early mid '70s to early '80s 40' trailer guys, containers were in their infancy during that time.
Nice but the price for a scaled HO trailer or container now has become outrageous, Maybe Rapido can add opening trailer doors
(painted interiors)and thin door rods on their announced '40 trailers?
at $35 a pop! I might spring for 2 or 3 out of 12.
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Post by trainboyy on Apr 26, 2021 20:17:58 GMT -8
This is getting crazy!! for us older early mid '70s to early '80s 40' trailer guys, containers were in their infancy during that time. Nice but the price for a scaled HO trailer or container now has become outrageous, Maybe Rapido can add opening trailer doors (painted interiors)and thin door rods on their announced '40 trailers? at $35 a pop! I might spring for 2 or 3 out of 12. Its not as bad as you might think over in Europe.. but that's Europe, and high (30+ USD) shipping costs keep me far away from dealing with this. Don't be discouraged if you're buying bulk/large quantities. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Apr 26, 2021 22:06:14 GMT -8
I just don't need that level of detail in every single container. If I need some in a foreground scene, yes. For zooming by on my intermodal trains? Maybe the couple at the head end and a couple at the rear. Maybe not even there.
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Post by westerntrains on Apr 27, 2021 7:56:39 GMT -8
Are those containers HO or OO? I bought a couple of containers and the were too wide to fit in a Walther's 40' AP rebuilt well car.
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Post by trainboyy on Apr 27, 2021 8:04:15 GMT -8
Are those containers HO or OO? I bought a couple of containers and the were too wide to fit in a Walther's 40' AP rebuilt well car. I've only seen photos/videos of them in european and british railcars, but those cars are supposedly HO scale so I would assume HO |
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Post by mdvle on Apr 27, 2021 8:04:25 GMT -8
Are those containers HO or OO? I bought a couple of containers and the were too wide to fit in a Walther's 40' AP rebuilt well car.
HO. Mainland Europe is HO, only the UK went special with OO.
At a guess, my understanding is North American HO containers are not to scale - they have been modified to fit into well car models which have smaller well interiors due to the limitations of models.
As Europe doesn't have doublestack container cars (they don't fit into Europe's loading gauge) they simply put containers onto flat cars - thus allowing for scale containers.
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Post by es80ac on Apr 28, 2021 10:52:57 GMT -8
Are those containers HO or OO? I bought a couple of containers and the were too wide to fit in a Walther's 40' AP rebuilt well car.
HO. Mainland Europe is HO, only the UK went special with OO.
At a guess, my understanding is North American HO containers are not to scale - they have been modified to fit into well car models which have smaller well interiors due to the limitations of models.
As Europe doesn't have doublestack container cars (they don't fit into Europe's loading gauge) they simply put containers onto flat cars - thus allowing for scale containers.
Never realized that is the case. I feel so uncomfortable now knowing the containers I have accumulated are not to scale, makes me want to stop buying them all together. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2021 11:04:20 GMT -8
Are those containers HO or OO? I bought a couple of containers and the were too wide to fit in a Walther's 40' AP rebuilt well car. HO. Mainland Europe is HO, only the UK went special with OO. At a guess, my understanding is North American HO containers are not to scale - they have been modified to fit into well car models which have smaller well interiors due to the limitations of models. As Europe doesn't have doublestack container cars (they don't fit into Europe's loading gauge) they simply put containers onto flat cars - thus allowing for scale containers.
That guess would be incorrect. I just measured some US model containers, and they're all less than a scale inch too wide or narrow. The only US containers that come to mind as troublesome are the Intermountain. Since European model containers don't have to fit in a well, I suspect they felt free to make them too wide. Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2021 11:17:00 GMT -8
Never realized that is the case. I feel so uncomfortable now knowing the containers I have accumulated are not to scale, makes me want to stop buying them all together. Well, it depends which brands you buy. As I mentioned, most US models have a correct width, except for Intermountain. And perhaps "the best HO container ever made". I had a few extra minutes in my day, so I dug out a Walthers Thrall rebuilt 40' well car, and a Walthers rebuilt all-purpose 40' well car. Both cars easily accepted the containers that I had measured (I was a little worried, there. Perhaps Walthers made their cars too narrow). After placing the widest of my three containers into the narrowest of the two cars, there was still a .03" gap (well, .015" either side, really). I look forward to hearing more about these non-fitting containers you have. Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2021 12:47:27 GMT -8
Looking at those very nice pictures of "what may be the best HO container ever made", I note that the hinges for the opening doors project outwards from the sides.
If the box itself is scaled properly, then the projecting parts of the hinges appear to guarantee the container won't fit into a well that's anywhere near proper width.
It DOES appear these models were made for the European non-well HO market.
Glad I dodged yet another bullet and missed getting these. Most of the time on my railroad, 20' boxes are placed in the bottom position of the well, only. They'd probably work OK on spine cars, though. Where one might be well-used is at an industry, with the container doors open for loading. THAT actually sounds like a good idea.
Ed
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Post by riogrande on Apr 28, 2021 13:07:00 GMT -8
Those PT trains container are almost too nice to put on well cars, but if they don't fit it's moot. I'd guess if you buy them, it's to display them apart from trains anyway.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2021 16:13:57 GMT -8
Oh, all right. I'll buy one.
I'm gonna get a FESCO one. That's a shipping line out of Vladivostok. Maybe I'll have it backed up unloading rebuilt voting machines at a local warehouse.
I'm a big fan of 20' chassis, both the little shorties and the ones with the back porch. They also take up less room on a module.
Ed
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Post by trainboyy on Apr 28, 2021 17:09:33 GMT -8
Those PT trains container are almost too nice to put on well cars, but if they don't fit it's moot. I'd guess if you buy them, it's to display them apart from trains anyway. You could always remove the pins and see how they shape up with magnets inside of them, on top perhaps. Who knows, they might look good if they're the same width as whatever they're being paired with. |
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Post by sp8234tim on Apr 29, 2021 5:11:57 GMT -8
They are very nice containers. I also have the open top one. If there is a complaint about them it would be the open doors hinges are VERY fragile & break. The company has a Facebook page & is very responsive to interaction. Looking forward to more containers from them.
Aurora Miniatures is also releasing a container with opening doors.
Tim
Hanesworth
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Post by Baikal on Apr 29, 2021 17:27:23 GMT -8
Oh, all right. I'll buy one. I'm gonna get a FESCO one. That's a shipping line out of Vladivostok. Maybe I'll have it backed up unloading rebuilt voting machines at a local warehouse. Ed
Затем появился моделист-фрилансер!
Головной офис FESCO находится в Москве:
Ул. Новокузнецкая, 7/11, корп. 1, Москва, 115184 |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 29, 2021 19:52:37 GMT -8
Well, I meant that they were VERY significant in Vladivostok, not that they were headquartered there.
I don't think there's much ocean shipping out of Moscow.
Ed
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 10, 2021 15:34:47 GMT -8
I just received my PT Trains 20' container. VERY nice, as everyone's said.
The width of the box is very close to scale. The hinges are overwide, by 1 1/2 scale inches. But it had no trouble dropping into an Athearn Maxi I, which is the most important fit I can think of.
I look forward to more.
Ed
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Post by riogrande on May 10, 2021 15:53:40 GMT -8
hmmm!
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Post by westerntrains on May 11, 2021 2:47:07 GMT -8
Oh, all right. I'll buy one. I'm gonna get a FESCO one. That's a shipping line out of Vladivostok. Maybe I'll have it backed up unloading rebuilt voting machines at a local warehouse. I'm a big fan of 20' chassis, both the little shorties and the ones with the back porch. They also take up less room on a module. Or maybe unloading 55 gal drums of orange skin lotion. Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 11, 2021 6:05:18 GMT -8
Oh, all right. I'll buy one. I'm gonna get a FESCO one. That's a shipping line out of Vladivostok. Maybe I'll have it backed up unloading rebuilt voting machines at a local warehouse. I'm a big fan of 20' chassis, both the little shorties and the ones with the back porch. They also take up less room on a module. Or maybe unloading 55 gal drums of orange skin lotion. Ed Western Trains, You're supposed to place your clever comments AFTER the quote, not inside it. Ed |
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Post by trainboyy on May 11, 2021 11:12:55 GMT -8
I just received my PT Trains 20' container. VERY nice, as everyone's said. The width of the box is very close to scale. The hinges are overwide, by 1 1/2 scale inches. But it had no trouble dropping into an Athearn Maxi I, which is the most important fit I can think of. I look forward to more. Ed So what you're essentially stating is that it's a bit wide compared to other containers. 1 scale inch doesn't sound too far off. Would it be too much to ask for a shot of any other container under or on top of it? |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 11, 2021 16:03:22 GMT -8
So what you're essentially stating is that it's a bit wide compared to other containers. 1 scale inch doesn't sound too far off. Would it be too much to ask for a shot of any other container under or on top of it? Yup, the hinges make the container slightly too wide. In my case, not enough to matter. Since the hinges are not castings, but bent sheet metal, the amount of added width could vary. There's really no point in doing a photo. Except for the hinge, the PT is the same width as any other correct width container. Approximately. Correct scale width is 1.102" An Athearn I just measured is 1.104" The PT is 1.106" (across the box itself) The PT is 1.113" across the hinges (at least, that's for mine) The width of the well of the Athearn Maxi I is 1.130" So, as you can see, we're talking some pretty small dimensions here. And there's plenty of room in the well car to take them. The only containers that I know of that have "oversize" problems are the Intermountain 40's. When I get around to install these in my well cars, I will file off everything that doesn't fit. Since you can't see that when the box is in the well, that's OK for me. Maybe not others. Ed |
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