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Post by Donnell Wells on Jan 31, 2021 21:14:57 GMT -8
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Post by djh4d on Feb 1, 2021 1:09:56 GMT -8
Those trucks look sharp.
-Dave
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Post by sp8192 on Feb 1, 2021 6:14:59 GMT -8
They look really great. How do I order one? I can't find the 'order now' link on their website...
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Post by sp8234tim on Feb 1, 2021 6:19:34 GMT -8
Looks awesome, The pictures look better here then on Facebook. I really like what you have done with the gear box/Traction Motors! (smart) Are you going to have extra bearing caps in the box incase they come off the axle ends? If not please do. I do have one on order. ( I model SP, UP & BNSF to 2006ish & pool power) Thanks for posting.
Tim Hanesworth
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 1, 2021 6:52:18 GMT -8
Count me in as one who is pleasantly surprised. The one thing I see that could use work would be the axle bearings (which look like they can spin?), it looks like there is some side-to-side slop in them.
As far as CN's Draper Tapers go, I was always fond of the C40-8M (proud owner of three of the Rapido version), so I don't know if I will get one of these, but they look like quite nice models.
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Post by TBird1958 on Feb 1, 2021 7:36:42 GMT -8
That looks pretty nice, good to see a new company bringing it!
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Post by severn on Feb 1, 2021 8:20:04 GMT -8
Did they decide on a decoder or is it their own?
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Post by mdvle on Feb 1, 2021 8:47:06 GMT -8
They look really great. How do I order one? I can't find the 'order now' link on their website...
Appears for now at least one needs to order through a dealer/retailer, and in the Facebook comments they state they will have a list of US retailers on their website in the next several days.
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Post by bnsftall on Feb 1, 2021 9:30:56 GMT -8
This is looking outstanding!
dt
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Feb 1, 2021 9:39:02 GMT -8
Long hood doors look soft and the hood door hinges look fuzzy/soft. They claim it's due to "thick paint". Hopefully other manufactures will improve their truck detail - traction motor like these.
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Post by Artur on Feb 1, 2021 11:24:08 GMT -8
it looks great, it's pre production model so I'm not concerned with anything looking too funky. I do like the couplers looks like they might work with Sergent.
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Post by sp3205 on Feb 1, 2021 11:50:18 GMT -8
Long hood doors look soft and the hood door hinges look fuzzy/soft. They claim it's due to "thick paint". Hopefully other manufactures will improve their truck detail - traction motor like these. I'll respectfully disagree, they don't look soft to me, and I'm really particular about that. In fact, I've looked at several models from major manufacturers (most of the "big names" lately, and wondered about the sharpness of the tooling. Only to discover that upon inspecting an undecorated model (usually by stripping the paint), the details are quite sharp and finely rendered. The paint jobs on most RTR models these days are well done and have incredibly sharp lettering, but the paint itself is usually ridiculously thick. The argument I get is that it's just not economically feasible to use painting equipment that doesn't apply paint on a model as thick as it would on the prototype. This looks different. It's a really, really nicely done model. I kitbashed one more years ago that I'd car to admit, and my current modeling has no use for the SD60F, but it's definitely a tempting model. Very nice!
Elizabeth
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Post by canrailfan on Feb 1, 2021 12:55:15 GMT -8
The sample wheels appear to be brass. Will the production models have nickel-silver wheels?
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Post by mdvle on Feb 1, 2021 13:31:48 GMT -8
From reading their replies on Facebook:
1) the DCC/Sound version comes with ESU Loksound
2) the wheels on the sample are nickle silver or nickel allow (they answered in 2 different places, gave 2 different answers
3) coupler box is Kadee compatible.
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Post by severn on Feb 1, 2021 15:03:13 GMT -8
I guess I could look at Facebook but did they give a schedule?
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Post by sd50f on Feb 1, 2021 16:45:56 GMT -8
Ooh...very, very tempting. Looks fantastic...and here I thought I'd try not to buy any more locomotives....but this one is really tempting. Must...fight...urge...to...buy...
Timothy Dineen
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Post by mdvle on Feb 1, 2021 16:47:26 GMT -8
I guess I could look at Facebook but did they give a schedule?
Not that I have seen.
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Post by cp6027 on Feb 1, 2021 17:36:06 GMT -8
In September 1991, CN hosted a "Rail Safety Days" event at Winnipeg Union Station. My parents, ever-supportive of my interest in railroads, took me downtown to tour the display train CN set up on one of the station tracks with CN SD60F 5543 in the lead. After waiting in line for a few minutes, we received a personal tour of 5543's cab, including a detailed explanation of the controls and safety alerter/reset device (which went off to signal it was time to let the next group into the cab). The guided tour continued back through the engine compartment where we were given a peek into the propped open valve covers and battery boxes. Then we were escorted off the rear walkway and into a series of passenger/business cars with safety displays to explore on our own. I still have the snapshots my Mom took of teenage me standing on the front platform of 5543, sitting in the engineer's seat, and standing in the engine compartment beside the prime mover. By pure coincidence, apparently CN 5543 was the last SD60F retired by CN, and there is an exclusive run being done of that number: weathermytrains.com/aurora-miniatures-locosI will definitely be getting a model of 5543! (Plus another unit to pair with it, probably 5535 since I have pictures of it at my modeled locale)
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Post by cp6027 on Feb 1, 2021 17:37:53 GMT -8
I guess I could look at Facebook but did they give a schedule?
Not that I have seen.
PDF flyer on the Aurora website says Summer/Fall 2021.
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Post by csxt8400 on Feb 2, 2021 9:28:22 GMT -8
Yeah, those trucks are gorg. I agree with the bearing cap issue, though, and wonder if it's even economical to produce a better way to hold the cap end where it belongs and have the slop used up in telescope fashion from the inside. We are getting awfully small with demands but it would improve the effect greatly if they didn't sink in a scale six inches on curves.
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 2, 2021 9:54:46 GMT -8
I think the bigger question is not how to absorb the slop, but why is there in the first place? I have lots of locomotives where the axles are fairly stable and don't move side to side much.
I don't currently have any locos with the spinning bearings feature, but if any of you guys do, is this a problem you have or is it something with the design of this particular model?
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Post by nsc39d8 on Feb 2, 2021 9:57:50 GMT -8
Very gorgeous model. Having a liking for these "Draper Tapers" I might have to find a way to include one in my roster. I know it will fit nicely with the D8-40CM and the D9-44CWL, just which scheme!
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 2, 2021 10:00:41 GMT -8
Very gorgeous model. Having a liking for these "Draper Tapers" I might have to find a way to include one in my roster. I know it will fit nicely with the D8-40CM and the D9-44CWL, just which scheme! The only correct answer is Sargent Stripes
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Post by cnsd60f on Feb 2, 2021 12:38:16 GMT -8
I am going to be so broke after this. Throw in the Dash 9 from Athearn and the only thing left on my bucket list is a GP9rm and a HR616. If I start my Kaslo's now, we may have those in a year or so.
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Post by Donnell Wells on Feb 2, 2021 13:29:56 GMT -8
Yeah, those trucks are gorg. I agree with the bearing cap issue, though, and wonder if it's even economical to produce a better way to hold the cap end where it belongs and have the slop used up in telescope fashion from the inside. We are getting awfully small with demands but it would improve the effect greatly if they didn't sink in a scale six inches on curves. I'm with you on the trucks. They are reminiscent of the Overland drives with individual axle gear boxes. Maybe this will start a trend, and other manufacturers will start including this same type and level of detail on their locomotive truck gear cases.
Donnell
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 3, 2021 20:59:41 GMT -8
Engine looks nice. Even I'm tempted, they used to pass right by outside my house here.
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Post by train57 on Feb 16, 2021 19:09:58 GMT -8
One can see more on their Facebook page if one is willing to use Facebook, but the essential is this "company" came out of nowhere in 2017 and promised a CPR D10 for $350 (DCC/Sound) - compare to Rapido at $600 for DCC/Sound. But despite showing what where claimed to be samples on Facebook the "delivery about to happen" kept getting delayed for a couple of years until they just stopped posting. Throughout the saga, despite asking for what social media they should participate in or what hobby shops/clubs they should visit, no physical presence of anyone from Shira was ever seen / heard. Some on Facebook decided it was an effort to attempt to sabotage Rapido's D10, I don't go that far given the videos/pictures would seem to indicate something was done, but combine that with the True Line Train promises and the whole original Point St. Charles caboose issue and a lot of potential customers have become very leery of things that aren't the now established bigger operations like Rapido/Athearn/etc. There's more to that fun story too: There were a number of posts on a couple of online modelling groups discussing how there were a lot of similarities between True Line Trains and the new Shira Trains outfit that magically emerged out of nowhere and promised a low-cost sound/DCC CPR D10 as their first release, around the time Rapido was lining themselves up to proceed with their own D10 as the next "Icons of Steam" release. This was not too long after Rapido released their own SW1200RS, scooping the TLT version that had been "in development" for over seven years at that point (things were going sideways with that TLT project in the later years: TLT cancelled the CP versions, and decided to only offer a CN version in DCC/sound only (no DC) in only the noodle paint livery). And, people have found evidence online linking one specific high-level TLT employee to Shira Trains, who was said to be composed of a partnership of three people lead by one mysterious aliased "Stanley Butler" of the TV show "On The Buses" fame. This was at one point explained by them as they had bought some/select/etc assets from another unnamed train manufacturer, and may/may not rerelease some in the future as a joint product. Nobody really knew who was or is behind them, although there's speculation it was a Chinese factory working with that specific TLT employee in some sort of partnership. Said TLT employee was also mentioned by a few sources as allegedly having shopped around a pre-production Shira Trains D10 to a few Toronto-area hobby shops who were planning on carrying it (even though Shira Trains originally launched as a direct to customer online sales retail model). At last check they had some working pre-production D10 chassis and were working on their own basic home-made DCC/sound decoder to go with it (yes, you read that right, developing their own decoder) but there's been radio silence from them for a good while now so...who knows where the chips lie now. Stories like this (and the Canadian Model Trains dealer fiasco) are a perfect example of why some who have been involved in the hobby for many years get a bit skeptical when someone unknown comes out of the ether with all sorts of rosy promises and CAD drawings, promising to deliver the world on a silver platter. Right before CMT (a long-time reputable Canadian dealer) went under, Tom Tomblin was spouting lengthy platitudes on one of the Canadian modelling groups about how they were undergoing this great paradigm shift in model railroading from a distributor/retailer to some sort of next-generation model company. And then he sold off all their inventory to another modeling company (for quick cash?), pulled the rug out from under everyone and disappeared. The rest was history. There were discussions for months after about "Where in the World is Tom "Carmen Sandiego" Tomblin", inquiries from individuals and model companies who they owned money too, had consignment items with, or had orders with, and what the status of the Rapido-CMT CN Point St. Charles caboose would be (eventually the tooling was transferred from Rapido to TLT, as TLT had acquired the inventory of CMT (another odd story for another day) and evidently the caboose project was in some way part of the assets involved. CMT customers who had put money down pre-ordering the caboose project were SOL though, as there were no CMT records acquired showing customers pre-orders and deposit amounts). Then there's the "company" (PMI, run by Ray?) that announced things like resin RS23 kits for a "reasonable price" around 2014, they never delivered either. PMI did get the MLW S13 shells completed and out, and they wanted to do RS23's and fully decorated units too. But evidently, the whole project turned out to be more bitten off than they could chew, being a small one-person operation and all. Hi, I was curious about the SD60F and I have decided to preorder one, but your comment has me curious about something else now, too-- What happened to the tooling for the HO CN PSC caboose? Did that go to Atlas with their purchase of TLT's tooling? Thanks!
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Post by train57 on Feb 16, 2021 19:23:31 GMT -8
I am going to be so broke after this. Throw in the Dash 9 from Athearn and the only thing left on my bucket list is a GP9rm and a HR616. If I start my Kaslo's now, we may have those in a year or so. I would love to have an RTR CN GP9 and HR616!
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Post by Judge Doom on Feb 16, 2021 21:35:28 GMT -8
Hi, I was curious about the SD60F and I have decided to preorder one, but your comment has me curious about something else now, too-- What happened to the tooling for the HO CN PSC caboose? Did that go to Atlas with their purchase of TLT's tooling? Thanks! It remains unknown what exactly became of the CN PSC tooling. It was never mentioned in the Atlas acquisition announcement, some say the Chinese factory may have it. No word on the TLT MP36/40 either.
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Post by train57 on Feb 17, 2021 0:38:43 GMT -8
Hi, I was curious about the SD60F and I have decided to preorder one, but your comment has me curious about something else now, too-- What happened to the tooling for the HO CN PSC caboose? Did that go to Atlas with their purchase of TLT's tooling? Thanks! It remains unknown what exactly became of the CN PSC tooling. It was never mentioned in the Atlas acquisition announcement, some say the Chinese factory may have it. No word on the TLT MP36/40 either. Hey thanks for saying that. I've been curious about the caboose and the MP36 (but now a little less because I preordered an F59) and I couldn't find anything specific anywhere. I really wish someone from TLT or Atlas or whoever has it or knows about it would speak up.
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