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Post by umtrrauthor on Dec 28, 2012 4:20:15 GMT -8
A friend of mine is starting a "complete do-over" of his large layout. He's decided that part of the concept is that at least a piece of the New York, Ontario and Western has survived into the 1970's approximate time period he's working in. (Also in his world, Conrail didn't happen.) The paint shop has been busy with some inexpensive "what if" cars lettered for the NYO&W... The first one is a stock Micro-Trains 40 foot boxcar with an 8 foot door replacement for a little variety. The others are "vintage" Atlas 50 foot double door boxcars that were painted in the previous century (!) but not ever lettered until their assignment to the "what if" O&W. The real NYO&W was abandoned back in 1957 and portions of it lie under NY Route 17/Interstate 86 in New York State. Tiny sections are still in operation, mostly in the area of Oswego, New York. The decals are all Micro-Scale and are combinations of HO and N Scale NYO&W sets and dimensional data. I model 1963 so it's not every day I get a chance to use ACI labels.
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Post by catt on Dec 28, 2012 6:01:41 GMT -8
I like the "what if" concept.My Grande Valley Railway is based in the old Grand Rapids & Indiana railroad yard here in Grand Rapids.I have decided to do up some modern day locos and rolling stock for the GR&I and have the two roads actually share the yard.
I already have one HO unit done in my version of the GR&I now I just need some suitable decals in N scale.
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Post by douggosha on Dec 28, 2012 8:51:08 GMT -8
Neato, George. My layout's pretty much a "what if" too. It's a "what if almost everything in every era existed at the same time on the railroads" theme. Doug
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Post by KIM on Dec 28, 2012 21:13:32 GMT -8
I'm also in on the "what if" theme. Those cars look good.
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Post by douggosha on Dec 29, 2012 8:49:26 GMT -8
Yeah. Those old 50' double door A1G cars really don't look bad except for maybe the foot-thick roof walks. I still love 'em though. And I really like just plain boxcar red cars with white lettering too. Doug
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Post by umtrrauthor on Dec 30, 2012 5:45:03 GMT -8
They're actually early A2G cars... made in USA. Roofwalks still too thick I had them in the "painting projects" box pretty much since I bought them at least 25 years ago. Ready to cry? They cost me $1 each at a train show in New Jersey! The seller had boxes of Atlas cars that he blew out at that price. I bought as many as I could afford.
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Post by douggosha on Dec 30, 2012 7:26:08 GMT -8
OK. I guess I consider the first four of that body style (made in USA) A1G since they are in the same number series- 2335: MKT, 2336: C&EI, 2337: E.L., and 2338: P.C. but it's OK if we disagree on that. Later roadnames of the 36XX series would definitely be A2G, of course. Doug
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Post by tdcsxcrrfan on Dec 30, 2012 17:57:47 GMT -8
Wouldn't some of those roofwalks be removed though? It's cool to be able to fudge with time/history like this! I'm fudging time/history on my layout too, by way of having some of the coal mines still producing after they've actually been played-out!! George, you could always tell your friend that the NYOW has become a company much like the Springfield Terminal and could control other roads. Don't know if many will "like" that though!! Trevor D.
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Post by umtrrauthor on Dec 31, 2012 7:18:47 GMT -8
Doug: Yep on the first four boxcar roadnames. These were, if I recall correctly, "Family Lines" boxcars originally so they're definitely A2Gs.
Trevor: If these were for me, I would have pulled the roofwalks, but my friend invokes Rule #1 on that point of order so they stayed on. (If you're ignoring Conrail then roofwalks are relatively minor!)
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Post by douggosha on Dec 31, 2012 10:54:44 GMT -8
For reference, Family Lines, Atlas #3602 A2G.
Boy, I thought acquiring all the A1G cars was an adventure. Atlas had 24 different 50' double door boxcars released in 1980 alone plus all the other body styles!
All this is based on Dallas Mallerich's Greenberg guide.
Doug
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