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Post by milgentrains on Mar 28, 2021 5:44:09 GMT -8
The main problem is the ability of the model mfr getting permission from GM, Ford or Chrysler to make the model.
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Post by santafe49 on Mar 28, 2021 17:21:57 GMT -8
When is someone going to put out another run of Propane Delivery trucks? Haven't seen those in years. I got a Shapeways tank body painted up and mated it with a cutdown Walthers SceneMasters International rollon/off chassis. It looks fine in my opinion, but we could do with some RTR trucks.
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Post by lvrr325 on Mar 29, 2021 10:32:22 GMT -8
As I understand it GM is more strict with regard to considering these toys and not licensing models that won't pass a choke tube test, this despite all the Fresh Cherries and Malibu cars sold in Wal-Mart and no rash of child choking deaths. This is why most of the GM models you see are full size cars. Then the licensing fees add up, which is why a CMW car is $15-ish retail, compared to a Hot Wheels car is a dollar, but they'll sell tens of thousands more Hot Wheels.
There are a lot of guys doing resin casts very quietly, I forget what I was looking for on eBay but I happened on 1971 Impala station wagons in solid cast resin. I don't remember the address now but there's an entire forum dedicated to HO vehicle modeling and they keep a good handle on what's out there.
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Post by dtinut on Mar 30, 2021 14:09:03 GMT -8
In regards to the Ford Granada (my neighbor had one when they moved into their house in 1977) - First generation (1975–1980) - Second generation (1981–1982) other Ford family variants:
Mercury Monarch (1975–1980) Mercury Cougar (1981–1982) Lincoln Versailles (1977–1980)
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 13, 2021 11:34:49 GMT -8
Rapido has just announced the Impala and Caprice Classic -- excellent choice of car which was very common in the 1980s.
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Post by tracktime on May 14, 2021 22:29:32 GMT -8
I hate to go against the grain here in this good thread, but the 1970s were also the time that Japanese imports expanded beyond just a mere foothold in North American markets. That said, I'd like to see classic "everyday" US market vehicles such as the Datsun 510, 240Z, 210 and any small Toyota or Datsun pickup truck. Nothing even remotely has come close to these vehicle profiles in HO scale for 1970s/80s modelers for these marques.
We have had a pretty poor rendition of a Honda Civic from Fresh Cherries a few years back that was far too narrow in cross section, so that deserves a redo for sure.
As for the Big 3, we still could use a Vega and a good implementation of a Fox-Body Mustang that Concor totally spooched decades ago, and a 1980 Dodge Diplomat.
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Post by ncrc5315 on May 15, 2021 12:44:20 GMT -8
As I understand it GM is more strict with regard to considering these toys and not licensing models that won't pass a choke tube test, this despite all the Fresh Cherries and Malibu cars sold in Wal-Mart and no rash of child choking deaths. This is why most of the GM models you see are full size cars. Then the licensing fees add up, which is why a CMW car is $15-ish retail, compared to a Hot Wheels car is a dollar, but they'll sell tens of thousands more Hot Wheels. There are a lot of guys doing resin casts very quietly, I forget what I was looking for on eBay but I happened on 1971 Impala station wagons in solid cast resin. I don't remember the address now but there's an entire forum dedicated to HO vehicle modeling and they keep a good handle on what's out there. 1-87vehicles.org/
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Post by stevewagner on May 15, 2021 17:17:45 GMT -8
Thanks for the most recent three posts in this thread. I also would like to see many more HO models of more common cars.
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Post by hovehicle on May 15, 2021 19:39:37 GMT -8
While we're at it , how about the 1985 Ford Taurus sedan and station wagon from Rapido? I like it!
Vito L.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 15, 2021 20:09:36 GMT -8
Exactly HOW much am I supposed to spend to fill an open autorack?
No. Really. How much? I'll give ya $100 a car. $100/15 = $6.70 a car. You want $25 each. Not happening.
For now, my racks are on the "return when empty" route. I have plenty of pictures showing 3-5 open autoracks on my route running empty.
The savings are pretty stupendous if I keep that concept going. And, around here, the sales of HO autos are pretty, uh, dismal.
If YOU want to run a 15 car set of racks with 15 cars per, that's 225 cars. At $25 per car, that's $5625. You, of course, will get a quantity discount.
I look forward to seeing your rolling stock. Of course, to be fair, that $5625 represents maybe 6 Coach Yard passenger cars. Just to display a sense of proportion.
Ed
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Post by idgara on May 15, 2021 21:03:03 GMT -8
I think these cars maybe top row only, or up front on layout, too expensive for many. You could use shapeways 3 D cars for lower racks. Some where I read of using card stock printed cars, people are using on background buildings, a decent model on a moving freight train could work.
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Post by sd40dash2 on May 16, 2021 3:27:32 GMT -8
^ Autoracks aren't the only common application for vehicles by railway modellers. They are also used by collectors and those wanting to populate roadways and parking lots with nice cars, trucks and buses. It seems disingenuous to spend $400 on RTR DCC engines + $100 freight cars and then populate the parking lots with $1 Matchbox cars or other low quality vehicles as though they're an afterthought.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 16, 2021 6:25:54 GMT -8
Parking lots. Didn't think of them. And they ARE right there in front of you, not even moving, for everyone to see.
Yikes!
Ed
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Post by hovehicle on May 16, 2021 17:31:23 GMT -8
Ed, you want quality now, you have to pay for it, period. You know that these will be quality vehicles from Rapido, and guess what , they will be worth it. The days of 1.69 Malibus at Walmart are OVER.
Vito L.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 16, 2021 19:14:00 GMT -8
Ed, you want quality now, you have to pay for it, period. You know that these will be quality vehicles from Rapido, and guess what , they will be worth it. The days of 1.69 Malibus at Walmart are OVER. Vito L. Vito, I do hope these cars are all that good. If they are, maybe I'll get some later. Meanwhile, half the time racks run empty. Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on May 16, 2021 22:37:17 GMT -8
$1.69 Malibus are now $9.99 Oxfords. Which are not perfect but I can live with it.
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Post by lvrr325 on May 16, 2021 22:39:09 GMT -8
Ed, you want quality now, you have to pay for it, period. You know that these will be quality vehicles from Rapido, and guess what , they will be worth it. The days of 1.69 Malibus at Walmart are OVER. Vito L. Vito, I do hope these cars are all that good. If they are, maybe I'll get some later. Meanwhile, half the time racks run empty. Ed Unfortunately the way this hobby works, unless Rapido runs off 5,000 of each one and plans to sell them for a year or so, you may be able to snag a few when they hit but they will sell out and then when they do turn up on eBay the price will just go up. Or do we not recall the Atlas imports of the 68 Plymouth and Ford sedans that ended up commanding over $100 a shot for a while?
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jun 9, 2021 12:43:51 GMT -8
This is really well done.
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Post by lars on Jun 9, 2021 13:03:30 GMT -8
I just looked and for the 1980 sedans/wagons the 305 V8 put out a whopping 155 hp!
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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 9, 2021 13:28:37 GMT -8
I just looked and for the 1980 sedans/wagons the 305 V8 put out a whopping 155 hp! Amazing how far automotive engines have come.
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Post by Funnelfan on Jun 10, 2021 1:19:35 GMT -8
A number of these "wished for" cars have already been made at one point or another. Might be more helpful to make a comprehensive list of what has been made. And if you think trying to find "Big 3" autos is hard, try finding common imports like Nissan and Toyota pickups.
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Post by peoriaman on Jun 10, 2021 5:02:19 GMT -8
I just looked and for the 1980 sedans/wagons the 305 V8 put out a whopping 155 hp! A wheezy 155 HP choked by miles of vacuum lines, smog pumps and air pumps and idle-stop solenoids and EGR and every sort of 70s-era anti-pollution device available at the time...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 17:53:32 GMT -8
I hate to go against the grain here in this good thread, but the 1970s were also the time that Japanese imports expanded beyond just a mere foothold in North American markets. That said, I'd like to see classic "everyday" US market vehicles such as the Datsun 510, 240Z, 210 and any small Toyota or Datsun pickup truck. Nothing even remotely has come close to these vehicle profiles in HO scale for 1970s/80s modelers for these marques. We have had a pretty poor rendition of a Honda Civic from Fresh Cherries a few years back that was far too narrow in cross section, so that deserves a redo for sure. As for the Big 3, we still could use a Vega and a good implementation of a Fox-Body Mustang that Concor totally spooched decades ago, and a 1980 Dodge Diplomat. Yes! Datsun 210 coupe bronze…
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Post by lvrr325 on Jun 11, 2021 1:17:09 GMT -8
I am surprised Kato or someone does not make those Japanese cars in HO. Tomytec has a nice line of N scale autos, and Tomy has made cars in 1/64th or Hot Wheels size. Seems like it would be simple for them to tool up for the HO market. I would buy a few of them. Kato also has a few N autos.
What bothered me about the Fresh Cherries Civic is the wheels appeared much too large.
My grandfather's last car was an '88 Caprice with a 305. It was no race car but it would move pretty good.
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Post by stevewagner on Jun 11, 2021 3:26:54 GMT -8
I'd very much like to see more good HO models of common though unspectacular cars.
I learned to drive on my Dad's second car, an underpowered 6-cylinder full sized Chevy 1961 station wagon with manual transmission. The Pennsylvania state trooper with whom I took the road test spent most of the time telling me what was wrong with that car, which ended up burning up in the desert outside Tonopah, Nevada in 1964. My parents' next car was a VW Microbus they bought in Europe. I drove it quite a bit and didn't like its handling in high winds.
My own first cars were two used VW Beetles (not Super Beetles). They weren't big enough to carry much camping equipment. When the second one had to be replaced, I bought the first new car my wife and I had: a Dodge Dart Sport (1974 model year), that I thought was a good compromise. That one was totaled in an accident; I wasn't in the car. I rented a small Ford, I think perhaps a Pinto, I was far from impressed with its engine's power: it couldn't maintain 60 mph on Route 2 going up Belmont Hill west from Cambridge, MA. I considered buying a Ford Fairmont, but it had the same engine and its trunk wasn't tall enough to hold full grocery bags upright. Instead a Dodge Omni the first year it was made, with a VW engine (1976, I think), which I considered a "poor man's Rabbit" and found satisfactory. Once we had two boys we bought a Dodge minivan, whose brakes we gave a good workout on the wonderful Cabot Trail on Cape Breton Island. Since then we've had a succession of Honda Civics, two bought new and one slightly used. I'm still driving one of them, with part of its electronic locking arrangement disabled; a few years ago my wife bought a new Subaru with lots of fancy electronics and contemporary safety features.
For a while in the 90's I drove a Pontiac wagon with very unusual options: a 6-cylinder engine with manual transmission, which I bought very cheaply from a brother who worked for GM. Nice car. Like my Dad, I liked driving manual transmission cars. Unlike him, I drove them properly; he wore out clutches quickly . My wife eventually convinced me I should switch to automatic transmissions. The most fun for summer driving ever for me was a loaner from the husband of a teaching colleague, a full sized convertible. For a while in the 90's I drove a Pontiac wagon with very unusual options: a 6-cylinder engine with manual transmission, which I bought very cheaply from a brother who worked for GM. Nice car. The most fun for summer driving ever for me was a loaner from the husband of a teaching colleague, a full sized convertible. I think the best car I've ever driven belonged to a man for whom I worked: an Audi Quattro with four-wheel drive that handled bad winter weather beautifully. He got rid of it to buy a Mercedes convertible sports car. I drove that one a lot, mostly chauffeuring him. I didn't like it much, though I became more familiar with raising and lowering its convertible top than he was. It was very heavy and sometimes required applying its brakes harder than I liked to.
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Post by idgara on Jun 11, 2021 7:48:25 GMT -8
Me too. More sedans, wagons, the family car. Also, scouts,Broncos, blazers, more pick ups, For me, up to 1968, but any new vehicles are appreciated and needed!
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jun 18, 2021 15:53:12 GMT -8
Shout out to Atlas for their latest run of 1973 Ford F-100 pickup.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Dec 30, 2022 14:15:27 GMT -8
Any new vehicles?
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Post by Frank on Dec 30, 2022 16:08:24 GMT -8
It’s funny, since we started this conversation the availability of 1970’s and 1980’s vehicles has exploded considerably. We had a list going in another thread.
Just a few examples from the past 18 months or so: 1973/1975/1979 Chevrolet C10 Pickup (CMW) 1972 Camaro (Brekina) 1980 Caprice / Impala (Rapido) 1979 Ford Country Squire (Brekina) 1977 Lincoln Continental Mark V (PCX87) 1980 Jeep CJ-7 (PCX87) 1987 Caprice (Brekina) 1984 Corvette C4 (PCX87)
Off the top of my head, lots more coming from Brekina / PCX87. GMC General just came out, with tons more 1960’s-1980’s trucks coming too.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 30, 2022 20:18:01 GMT -8
I was going to say the CMW 1979 C10 in fleetside and stepside versions. Those are nice!
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