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Post by fishbelly on Jun 12, 2021 16:16:12 GMT -8
A very long time ago I had painted a Bangor & Aroostook GP7 in the solid blue scheme. Brian Everett suggested the best color match for that was the el cheapo .25 oz jars of Testors gloss enamel. Brian, if you read this. Was it the Bright Blue?
I do not know if Testors has changed the colors since then so that is why I am asking. If it is the correct one, then I can get a bottle and match it to a Tamiya or possibly a Mission Models color. Not sure if True Color TCP-087 is good.
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Post by Mark R. on Jun 12, 2021 20:44:53 GMT -8
I did this one using TruColor paint and thought it looked pretty good ....  Mark. |
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Post by el3672 on Jun 12, 2021 22:43:41 GMT -8
***** 5 Star work Mark. If your available, Please PM me with contact info, I'd like to get you involved
in some weathering Loco projects and quotes for me.
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Post by schroed2 on Jun 13, 2021 3:00:23 GMT -8
A very long time ago I had painted a Bangor & Aroostook GP7 in the solid blue scheme. Brian Everett suggested the best color match for that was the el cheapo .25 oz jars of Testors gloss enamel. Brian, if you read this. Was it the Bright Blue? I do not know if Testors has changed the colors since then so that is why I am asking. If it is the correct one, then I can get a bottle and match it to a Tamiya or possibly a Mission Models color. Not sure if True Color TCP-087 is good. if it was a GP9, it made its way to me... |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jun 13, 2021 3:36:47 GMT -8
That B&A unit looks spectacular.
I don't recall any intentional changes for the Testors in the small bottles, but short of actually painting a test sample not sure if it's the same.
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Post by fishbelly on Jun 13, 2021 5:39:04 GMT -8
Mark, that blue does look VERY good. I like it a lot and it looks right. I think I will pick me up a bottle or two. Thank you for posting the photo.
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Post by fishbelly on Jun 13, 2021 6:07:06 GMT -8
Mark, I have to ask. Was this model one of the older Atlas/ Kato versions with the molded on grab irons and you cut them off and replaced with wire? The work look VERY nice. Did you replace the handrails also? they look thinner than what Kato put on.
Also, what bell detail part did you use? I cannot seem to locate one that looks similar to yours.
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Post by Mark R. on Jun 13, 2021 6:35:14 GMT -8
Mark, I have to ask. Was this model one of the older Atlas/ Kato versions with the molded on grab irons and you cut them off and replaced with wire? The work look VERY nice. Did you replace the handrails also? they look thinner than what Kato put on. That was an older yellow box version. The handrails are from a late run Atlas version which are much finer than the old Atlas / Kato versions. Fortunately, they still use the large pins / holes in the frame, so they are a direct replacement. Mark. |
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Post by fishbelly on Jun 13, 2021 7:36:31 GMT -8
I figured that was the case, but wanted to ask. My point for asking was not really about replacing the handrails, but the grab irons. The oversized handrails do not really bother me and when I run them with my Kato GP35's, everything looks uniform. You did a really nice job with the grab irons. Cutting the molded ones off and replacing with wire and you also confirmed a suspicion I had.
Grab irons usually come with an NBW molded on to the hood. When removing molded on grab irons it is not always an easy task to preserve the NBW. So many times we simply remove it all and sand smooth. When replacing with wire, we tend to neglect the NBW detail and move on with the build. I always fight myself with this and my mind tells me that the NBW should be there. In the grand scheme of things though that NBW is insignificant to the model itself. And my case in point is this. How many manufacturers today now apply wire grab irons? I think we can say pretty much all of them. Now to my second point. The NBW is actually part of the grab iron. So when a grab iron is a contrasting color to the hood it is attached to. That NBW portion of the grab iron SHOULD be the same color as the grab iron itself. How many manufacturers go through the trouble to mask off the NBW portion of the grab iron and paint it the same color as the grab iron? I think we can say safely pretty much none. So my point to all this rambling is that the modeling community pretty much does not care about the NBW detail on the grab iron.
Your model Mark visually looks right on and the fact that the grab iron NBW is not there is of no consequence nd does not detract at all from the model and validates to me that it is really not necessary when building a model like this where you have to cut off the molded on grabs. Why go through the trouble unless it is something that really bothers you or if you are building a show model. I go through the trouble because I like doing it. PBL makes SN3 grab iron NBWs that are slightly overscale for HO, but look pretty good. They are tiny though and a pickle to work with. Gluing them in place after you have painted everything is not fun either, but I have developed a way to handle them, clean them up and attach them to the hood that works well for me.
I am going to do unit #75. I just bought a model for it and the paint and now putting together a parts list. Just a few items to give it the B&A flavor. As soon as I get it all, I will dive into it. It will be used as a barrowed unit.
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Post by Mark R. on Jun 13, 2021 7:49:29 GMT -8
I too have used the NBW castings on many models, and it does make a difference depending on the color contrast. The BAR unit would have really benefitted from them in my opinion. However, that was a build for a customer, and as such, had some confinements as to time and money. When working under those constraints, some things must go undone.
Mark.
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Post by fishbelly on Jun 13, 2021 8:00:59 GMT -8
I too have used the NBW castings on many models, and it does make a difference depending on the color contrast. The BAR unit would have really benefitted from them in my opinion. However, that was a build for a customer, and as such, had some confinements as to time and money. When working under those constraints, some things must go undone. Mark. Mark, I was not making any criticism of the model at all nor critiquing the model. Only making a point about how we the customers view certain details and the grab iron NBW is a milk carton candidate that nobody really cares about. The model itself looks fantastic. |
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