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Post by simulatortrain on Feb 25, 2022 14:13:27 GMT -8
I haven't formally posted here yet about my 3D printing venture, Plate C Model Prototypes. With this post I am pleased to announce that I have six new HO trucks available. These are 3D-printed and come with semi-scale (code 88) wheelsets. See the FAQ page on the site for some additional information.  In addition, there are plenty of other parts available which I've shown on some of my builds in various SPF threads. I think the most recent example would be my PS boxcar ends. |
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Feb 25, 2022 14:38:56 GMT -8
Order placed. If these look at nice as I hope, I'll be placing an order for the 100-ton Barber S-2 plain trucks.
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Post by dtinut on Feb 25, 2022 14:57:23 GMT -8
Ordered! Looking forwards to these! I have needed a set of the 100T converted trucks to replace the trucks on my Altas EL ACF3510's for a long time.
Thanks
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Post by el3672 on Feb 25, 2022 21:03:32 GMT -8
Nice that your offering these trucks, I'll
be placing an Order for a few sets of the
Barber S-1 100 T J box and some other parts.
BTW Do the bearings on the 100T RB's spin?
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Post by slowfreight on Feb 26, 2022 7:15:21 GMT -8
Exciting stuff. Now my challenge is to find prototypes that need them!
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 26, 2022 7:59:19 GMT -8
I wish I saw side bearings on the top of the bolsters.
Ed
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Feb 26, 2022 9:45:39 GMT -8
Curious, what is the longevity of these trucks if used on cars that are regularly used on an operating layout? They look good.
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Post by schroed2 on Feb 26, 2022 10:08:51 GMT -8
waiting with my order for the 100ton to be back in stock...thanks for adding the international shipping option
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Post by champagnetrail on Feb 27, 2022 9:06:52 GMT -8
Thank you for providing what no other model manufacturer would provide, that being the 100T plain/converted bearing truck. I will be rewarding you with my business.
-pat
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Post by simulatortrain on Feb 27, 2022 12:11:30 GMT -8
Ed- I had considered it, but since the Kadee brake pads have those big triangular tabs at the top, it didn't seem like a huge benefit to have more detail in the area around them. Not ideal, but not really anything I can do about those unless someone else makes theirs available. I didn't want to print the brakes either since they might end up fragile I tend to bump those a lot when adding/removing wheelsets.
Thank you everyone who ordered and commented. I have more wheelsets and brakes on the way so I will be able to restock those that are sold out soon.
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Post by simulatortrain on Feb 27, 2022 12:15:22 GMT -8
Curious, what is the longevity of these trucks if used on cars that are regularly used on an operating layout? They look good. I tested a couple pairs of them for 24 hours straight on some 18" radius curves. On the production trucks I put Neolube in the bearings, these were un-lubricated to see the worst case. There was some wear visible, but it seemed only to be the axles smoothing out the needlepoint shape and no further. I then put some Neolube on those test pairs and they rolled even better than the fresh ones. So it's possible there could be more wear over time, but so far what I've seen isn't concerning. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 27, 2022 12:51:08 GMT -8
Adam,
I am one of the few people who use the side bearings, if they're on the bolster. For me, they're not just decoration. I use them to make a three-point suspension, so that the cars don't do the wiggle-shimmy dance. That has always bothered me, even more than the lack of brake shoes on a freight truck.
HO trucks used to come with them (side bearings), now they generally don't. I see the old sprung Kadees still have them. Central Valley freight trucks had them. Athearn used to, also; but I think they removed them for some reason.
So I think you are doing common practice, these days.
Ed
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Post by captainwetrock on Feb 28, 2022 15:14:52 GMT -8
Sooooooooo many ACL and SCL(plus FLS,SBD,and CSX)prototypes for models that can now have the right "shoes" !!
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Post by champagnetrail on Mar 1, 2022 12:12:25 GMT -8
Hmmm...looks like the 100T Barber S-2 converted journal ones are already out of stock. I need 4 pair to start with, so if you could let us know when you get more of them made, it would be appreciated!
-pat
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Post by surlyknuckle on Mar 2, 2022 6:20:53 GMT -8
I was away from the computer for a long weekend and missed out on the 100 ton converted trucks. Dang! Hopefully a restock will be available soon. And as someone who also dabbles in Lionel, that Symington-Wayne truck just makes me chuckle...something that is on like 90% of the cars Lionel made during the General Mills/MPC era. There is so much goodness here, thanks again.
I am ALSO looking forward to the WM gondola cradles. I was planning on gluing up some styrene for something "good enough" but the photo you posted from Photo Fun looks amazing.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Mar 3, 2022 16:12:06 GMT -8
Any chance of just offering the truck without the wheelsets?
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 3, 2022 17:41:35 GMT -8
Any chance of just offering the truck without the wheelsets? Considering that, I just haven't decided yet. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Mar 4, 2022 12:08:23 GMT -8
I'd love to buy them without the wheelsets. $10 each for 2 pairs, plus another $30 for shipping is just a tad too pricey.
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Post by captainwetrock on Mar 4, 2022 14:21:34 GMT -8
Any chance of just offering the truck without the wheelsets? Considering that, I just haven't decided yet. I`m sure you know you can count me as another vote for selling them unpainted and without wheelsets as well ! |
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Post by tom on Mar 5, 2022 17:16:23 GMT -8
My 50-ton ACL/SCAL trucks came in the mail today. Already test fitted them to my ACL boxcar that ran for a number of years ran with Accurail roller bearing trucks because the correct ones were not available. Boxcar looks much better now. I painted the trucks today and will weather them tomorrow.
The sideframes came painted in a flat black.
I think the inclued semi-scale wheels are from Moloco as the wheel faces come painted a dark rust color.
Very pleased with the trucks.
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Post by tom on Mar 5, 2022 17:28:56 GMT -8
My 50-ton ACL/SCAL trucks came in the mail today. Already test fitted them to my ACL boxcar that ran for a number of years ran with Accurail roller bearing trucks because the correct ones were not available. Boxcar looks much better now. I painted the trucks today and will weather them tomorrow.
The sideframes came painted in a flat black.
I think the inclued semi-scale wheels are from Moloco as the wheel faces come painted a dark rust color.
Very pleased with the trucks.
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 5, 2022 19:49:43 GMT -8
Thanks for the comments about trucks without wheelsets, it's seeming like that would be a popular option so I will most likely get that added soon.
Tom, very happy to hear that! You are correct, I am using Moloco 33" wheelsets, and Tangent 36".
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Post by Christian on Mar 7, 2022 8:55:58 GMT -8
Three odds and ends and ends:
My GIMME is for 125T trucks. Yes, Rapido has them, but they do not look great to me. Certainly, they don't have the depth of molding that these printed trucks seem to have. I would love to replace my antique ECW 125T trucks.
Wheelsets: I'm thrilled anytime trucks are sold with 88 wheelsets. Keep 'em coming. The miser in me HATES to order wheelsets every time I buy a Tangent car.
What are the Symington trucks for? Brief research finds them only on Pullman troop cars.
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Post by captainwetrock on Mar 7, 2022 9:16:03 GMT -8
Three odds and ends and ends: My GIMME is for 125T trucks. Yes, Rapido has them, but they do not look great to me. Certainly, they don't have the depth of molding that these printed trucks seem to have. I would love to replace my antique ECW 125T trucks. Wheelsets: I'm thrilled anytime trucks are sold with 88 wheelsets. Keep 'em coming. The miser in me HATES to order wheelsets every time I buy a Tangent car. What are the Symington trucks for? Brief research finds them only on Pullman troop cars. The Symington XL-70 trucks were used under some: - NH Troop Sleepers - ATSF Flexi Van flats - NYC Flexi Van Flats - C&O 40` Gons - C&O 50` PS1 RBLs |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 7, 2022 9:22:18 GMT -8
The Symington XL-70 trucks were used under some: - NH Troop Sleepers - ATSF Flexi Van flats - NYC Flexi Van Flats - C&O 40` Gons - C&O 50` PS1 RBLs Were all of the above roller bearing? The HO trucks are. Ed |
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 7, 2022 9:26:14 GMT -8
The gons and troop sleepers were plain bearings, which I haven't touched yet, but I will. Fortunately it's an extremely easy change on those trucks- you can see the outline in the castings of where the journal box would have been.
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Post by dtinut on Mar 8, 2022 8:50:46 GMT -8
Adam, Box arrived - trucks look great! ACL 50 and 100T 100T conversion -> these are going on my EL ACF3510 LO's 50T conversion Note: I 2nd the 125 Ton trucks> There is not much out in the market for those... Also - many depressed center flat cars had National trucks (very flat across the top) with the roller bearing conversions. - see links: www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc768016akg.jpgwww.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc766070akg.jpgThese would be a really excellent option to do, as there is nothing out there for this truck. |
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 8, 2022 10:51:14 GMT -8
Those National trucks are very cool, I'll see if I can find a drawing...
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Post by el3672 on Mar 20, 2022 19:57:38 GMT -8
I haven't formally posted here yet about my 3D printing venture, Plate C Model Prototypes. With this post I am pleased to announce that I have six new HO trucks available. These are 3D-printed and come with semi-scale (code 88) wheelsets. See the FAQ page on the site for some additional information. In addition, there are plenty of other parts available which I've shown on some of my builds in various SPF threads. I think the most recent example would be my PS boxcar ends. Hi Adam:Any updates as to when we might see these available ? .......Barber S-2 100 Ton Journal Box trucks and without wheel sets? I need a dozen or more |
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 21, 2022 4:41:40 GMT -8
Almost finished with the next batch to restock, just need to finish assembling and packaging them.
Trucks without wheelsets won't be up yet- that probably sounds funny since they're less work to make, but I do still have to test wheelsets in them to make sure they roll. I'd say somewhere around 5% of them as printed don't roll freely, and they either take a little rework or get tossed. Wouldn't want to fly blind and stick someone with those.
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