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Post by cera2254 on Apr 11, 2022 13:17:22 GMT -8
I am looking to add a U25C to my ULG coal train consist. I’m going to use the recent-ish run of Rivarossi U25Cs, but their L&N version leaves a lot to be desired paint wise in my opinion. What paint should I consider for both gray and yellow on these? www.railpictures.net/images/d2/3/5/8/3358.1644948012.jpg |
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Post by nsc39d8 on Apr 11, 2022 13:56:56 GMT -8
I recommend Tru-color TCP-160 and TCP-161, L&N Gray and Yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 14:29:28 GMT -8
If you can find it, I recommend Badger L&N gray & yellow. As an L&N modeler that all i use to paint my locomotives!
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Post by nstophat on Apr 16, 2022 6:07:39 GMT -8
Tru Color has L&N Gray, a well as yellow, the light boxcar blue and the darker blue for the passenger units.
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 11, 2022 13:52:45 GMT -8
Well as an update to this thread, I finally got around to painting the U25C, and decided to go with the Tru Color L&N paints. Here is the result, this is not even close. Probably appropriate for the family lines units, but not most L&N diesels. So I guess its time to hunt down some modelflex.  00E41959-3DF9-4698-8FCC-5F5F011980AE by Christian Hostetler, on Flickr |
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Post by drsvelte on Sept 11, 2022 15:02:45 GMT -8
If the shell on the left is Tru-color that's even way too dark for Family Lines.  Badger Modelflex railroad paints are available through Amazon. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 11, 2022 15:59:41 GMT -8
That looks like it's going to become a Southern Pacific unit rather than L&N.
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Post by nstophat on Sept 11, 2022 17:56:36 GMT -8
Looks like TruColor mis-labelled the paint bottles. Reach out to them and see how they respond.
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Post by 12bridge on Sept 12, 2022 8:53:04 GMT -8
Tru-Color is usually far from "True", but that's way off, and I do wonder if it was mislabeled. I have the M5 from L&N 1318. You can see both shades of grey. Might be hard to see on the computer though..   |
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 12, 2022 11:27:59 GMT -8
Looks like TruColor mis-labelled the paint bottles. Reach out to them and see how they respond. I reached out to them, and included the photo that I posted here. According to them the color that I have is “correct” And the gray that bowser used is closer to a Burlington gray. |
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Post by csxt8400 on Sept 12, 2022 13:05:10 GMT -8
Lol, sure it is.
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 12, 2022 13:43:25 GMT -8
Yes I didn’t even bother responding, if they think that is correct I’m sure I’m not going to change their mind. Oh well I gave them a chance. |
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Post by nsc39d8 on Sept 12, 2022 14:28:45 GMT -8
I will say that is not L&N gray that you used from Tru-Color. I would agree and say SP dark gray. While I like using Tru-Color and have recommended it since it was AccuPaint. I am finding more and more that some colors are just not right and the evaporation problem seems to be getting worse.
I asked them about doing UP MOW gray and have not heard back from them after several months.
I really wish Sclecoat would get their act together and change to a bottle that is compatible with most airbrushes, although my collection of empty bottles is getting bigger so I have spares now.
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Post by Baikal on Sept 12, 2022 15:11:41 GMT -8
Looks like TruColor mis-labelled the paint bottles. Reach out to them and see how they respond. I reached out to them, and included the photo that I posted here. According to them the color that I have is “correct” And the gray that bowser used is closer to a Burlington gray.
They're "givin' ya the business", as Eddie Haskell used to say.
If they've seen a single L&N unit, in person or in a color photo, they know that's not true.
L&N gray is a COOL (blue side) light gray MUCH closer to Burlington gray than it is to SP Lark Light Gray, the color used on SP locomotives. The color you sprayed looks like Guiliford gray or SP Lark Dark Gray, used on passenger cars (SP, UP, others), if not darker.
And it weathers to an even lighter color.
Not even close.
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Post by nstophat on Sept 12, 2022 15:45:38 GMT -8
Looks like TruColor mis-labelled the paint bottles. Reach out to them and see how they respond. I reached out to them, and included the photo that I posted here. According to them the color that I have is “correct” And the gray that bowser used is closer to a Burlington gray. The only way that is L&N grey is if it has been overcoated with a blown turbocharger.... |
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 12, 2022 16:35:01 GMT -8
nstophat, I couldn’t really believe the had the nads to say it. Lol. I suppose when I repaint with Modelflex I’ll send them a photo.
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Post by nstophat on Sept 13, 2022 3:17:19 GMT -8
nstophat, I couldn’t really believe the had the nads to say it. Lol. I suppose when I repaint with Modelflex I’ll send them a photo. The closest L&N unit I can find on-line to that color is a rusted-out FA-2 on the L&N HS web page, which was delivered in black. |
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 19, 2022 16:46:45 GMT -8
Here is the shell after one coat of Modelflex L&N Gray. I'm thinking of doing one more coat and mixing in a little white to get it closer to the Bowser color which looks more correct to me. What's everyone think?  19908192-8054-45EA-8693-EA2CBC3B354E by Christian Hostetler, on Flickr |
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Post by Baikal on Sept 19, 2022 19:05:21 GMT -8
Here is the shell after one coat of Modelflex L&N Gray. I'm thinking of doing one more coat and mixing in a little white to get it closer to the Bowser color which looks more correct to me. What's everyone think? 19908192-8054-45EA-8693-EA2CBC3B354E by Christian Hostetler, on Flickr Match to the C-628 color, which looks fine for new paint, or a little lighter. The gray lightens with age and L&N units painted 3+ years earlier are definitely lighter. Plus indoor lighting, etc. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 20, 2022 18:17:14 GMT -8
Did you strip it? The darker grey as a base might be tinting the color a bit.
It's probably fine if it's a shade or two off, since paint fades and they were painted by different builders.
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 21, 2022 5:45:49 GMT -8
Did you strip it? The darker grey as a base might be tinting the color a bit. It's probably fine if it's a shade or two off, since paint fades and they were painted by different builders. I didn’t, wasn’t sure how acetone would affect the shell, so I painted over. I have some white on the way to lighten it up. |
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Post by nsc39d8 on Sept 21, 2022 7:08:59 GMT -8
With Tru-Color you can dip it in 91% alcohol and it will come clean.
Let it soak a couple hours the scrub with an old toothbrush and wash with dawn dish detergent and you will be good to go.
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Post by drsvelte on Sept 21, 2022 8:15:55 GMT -8
It doesn't seem too far off from Family Lines French gray ....  |
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Post by onequiknova on Sept 21, 2022 15:36:44 GMT -8
Did you strip it? The darker grey as a base might be tinting the color a bit. It's probably fine if it's a shade or two off, since paint fades and they were painted by different builders. I didn’t, wasn’t sure how acetone would affect the shell, so I painted over. I have some white on the way to lighten it up. If you dunked the shell in acetone, you wouldn't be worrying about the shade of gray anymore. It would be a pile of goo in the bottom of the container. |
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